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Reply #210 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:09pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

Hang ten a week in chains until the rest get the message....

Why is it 'racism' to want the free right to climb Ayers Rock, but not racism to prevent certain ethnic groups from climbing it?

Nobody 'owns' it - they never have - therefore there is no inherent 'right' to block entry or access in any way.

The Boories should have been content with taking the 'entry fees' to the 'national park' instead of trying to make it a White-Free Zone.

What's next? Mount Kosiusko? Pay the Kaffirs the fee for the privilege of climbing or ski-ing it, but only until they claim it as a 'sacred site' and make entry an offence?

Dick-heads. Roll Eyes

It's a bit like no one can/should be able to ban people coming to Australia!

No one ever owned it!

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The thing about that is that you can ONLY ban people from entering the nation who are criminal or otherwise reprehensible. Every agreement on immigrants and especially refugees says you accept them if they are fair dinkum.

No relationship to the issue of uppity Nickers closing Ayers Rock off to Whitey, using Whitey's money and Captain Cook 'laws' to do it while reviling Captain Cook laws that put dem bruvvas in gaol, yeah.

Big difference, Bro.

'ey, Bro - don' cha go talkin' 'bout dem non whiteys what's cut outta Uluru, neiver... dem's covered by dat CaptainCook rules, too, so dey jest as bad as Whitey. Black beaudiful, eh, Bro? Nobody but da Bros gits t' walk where WE says, eh? We fix dem 'scriminatory White bastards, ah reckon.

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Reply #211 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:09pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:05pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

So the process was the same as Mabo?

Effendi.....did you need a permit to access Frazer Island?

Like I just said Aussie, no. But don't let that stop you getting to the point.

Really? Did you and your mates walk when you got there, or drive a car?

Like I said Aussie, don't let my personal circumstances stop you getting to the point.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #213 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:11pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:09pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:48pm:

Hang ten a week in chains until the rest get the message....

Why is it 'racism' to want the free right to climb Ayers Rock, but not racism to prevent certain ethnic groups from climbing it?

Nobody 'owns' it - they never have - therefore there is no inherent 'right' to block entry or access in any way.

The Boories should have been content with taking the 'entry fees' to the 'national park' instead of trying to make it a White-Free Zone.

What's next? Mount Kosiusko? Pay the Kaffirs the fee for the privilege of climbing or ski-ing it, but only until they claim it as a 'sacred site' and make entry an offence?

Dick-heads. Roll Eyes

It's a bit like no one can/should be able to ban people coming to Australia!

No one ever owned it!

Shocked

The thing about that is that you can ONLY ban people from entering the nation who are criminal or otherwise reprehensible. Every agreement on immigrants and especially refugees says you accept them if they are fair dinkum.

No relationship to the issue of uppity Nickers closing Ayers Rock off to Whitey, using Whitey's money and Captain Cook 'laws' to do it while reviling Captain Cook laws that put dem bruvvas in gaol, yeah.

Big difference, Bro.

'ey, Bro - don' cha go talkin' 'bout dem non whiteys what's cut outta Uluru, neiver... dem's covered by dat CaptainCook rules, too, so dey jest as bad as Whitey. Black beaudiful, eh, Bro? Nobody but da Bros gits t' walk where WE says, eh? We fix dem 'scriminatory White bastards, ah reckon.

That's what FD said. How dare they use Whitey's laws to get their land back?

Freeedom, innit.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #214 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:29pm

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

So the process was the same as Mabo?

I have no idea what process you're referring to

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #215 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:31pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

The right to chase kangaroos, catch yabbies, and such in a TRADITIONAL way. You don't see much of that these days... they fish with a big tinny with a 150hp motor.... and they shoot kangaroos by sitting outside and waiting for the supply truck to arrive.... as for Walkabout - a great tradition - that's now done with Range Rovers and Land Cruisers..... Jayzuz - sounds like the UN 'AID' workers.

What's exclusively 'traditional' about climbing OUR Rock?

Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.

what are you on about grappler? It's not their law that recognises traditional ownership, it's ours. We're imposing our system on them.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #216 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:49pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

The right to chase kangaroos, catch yabbies, and such in a TRADITIONAL way. You don't see much of that these days... they fish with a big tinny with a 150hp motor.... and they shoot kangaroos by sitting outside and waiting for the supply truck to arrive.... as for Walkabout - a great tradition - that's now done with Range Rovers and Land Cruisers..... Jayzuz - sounds like the UN 'AID' workers.

What's exclusively 'traditional' about climbing OUR Rock?

Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.

what are you on about grappler? It's not their law that recognises traditional ownership, it's ours. We're imposing our system on them.

.. and they refuse to accept it - can't have it both ways, Herr Schmidt. Once again - 'traditional ownership' does not mean total possession and absolute rights..... it only permits traditional activities such as hunting and fishing....

This is an ambent claim to try to push the boundaries further along the way to total control over whatever they want - that's the way of the feminists and of governments - push and push like children to see how far they can go, and it's time to start saying NO in many spheres of society in this nation.

You wanna close Ayers Rock? Ask the Australian people..... WE own it as a national treasure.

Plebiscite.

Get with the program here....

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #217 - Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:55pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

The right to chase kangaroos, catch yabbies, and such in a TRADITIONAL way. You don't see much of that these days... they fish with a big tinny with a 150hp motor.... and they shoot kangaroos by sitting outside and waiting for the supply truck to arrive.... as for Walkabout - a great tradition - that's now done with Range Rovers and Land Cruisers..... Jayzuz - sounds like the UN 'AID' workers.

What's exclusively 'traditional' about climbing OUR Rock?

Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.

what are you on about grappler? It's not their law that recognises traditional ownership, it's ours. We're imposing our system on them.

Wacism, innit.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #218 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 1:02am

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

The right to chase kangaroos, catch yabbies, and such in a TRADITIONAL way. You don't see much of that these days... they fish with a big tinny with a 150hp motor.... and they shoot kangaroos by sitting outside and waiting for the supply truck to arrive.... as for Walkabout - a great tradition - that's now done with Range Rovers and Land Cruisers..... Jayzuz - sounds like the UN 'AID' workers.

What's exclusively 'traditional' about climbing OUR Rock?

Hang ten a week until the rest get the message.

what are you on about grappler? It's not their law that recognises traditional ownership, it's ours. We're imposing our system on them.

Wacism, innit.

Aye - but from which direction, and from how many directions?

So JS is saying that by allowing themselves to be imposed upon by 'our' system, that means that the 'council' of Blacks at The Rock can have 'rights' to impose according to our law/rules?

Why don;t they stand on their dignity and their personal value as 'traditional inhabitants etc' of the 'land', and REFUSE to abide by 'our' rules?

Have some balls, you Kaffirs - stand up and support your OWN principles, you craven lot of self-indulgent, money-grubbing parasites!

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #219 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:00am

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

So the process was the same as Mabo?

I have no idea what process you're referring to

The process by which control over Uluru was wrapped up in racism. Was that the same process Mabo used?

What did you think we were talking about John?

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what are you on about grappler? It's not their law that recognises traditional ownership, it's ours. We're imposing our system on them.

No-one is forcing them to exclude people from Uluru based on racism and superstitious beliefs. They were handed control over our most iconic natural monument and immediately set about trying to keep the tourists away.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #221 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:04am Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:02am: Walking on Ularu is against their rules, dear. They even call it the law. Cunning, no? Laws change. Everything changes. Australia is changing. Why don't aborigines have to change?
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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #222 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:06am

freediver wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2017 at 10:40pm:

Mabo did not grant extra rights to aboriginal people Aussie.

that's right FD ... it instead recognised traditional ownership

if wouldn't have mattered if the Anunga group were swedish, chinese, aboriginal, mexican, russian, english, black , green, pink or white .... they have rights over ayers rock because they were deemed the traditional owners.

NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

So the process was the same as Mabo?

I have no idea what process you're referring to

The process by which control over Uluru was wrapped up in racism. Was that the same process Mabo used?

What did you think we were talking about John?

Trying to catch a jellyfish, eh? That'll show him, FD.

How was the handover of Ularu racist? I'm curious.

Should it have been granted to the traditional owners of the land instead?

BHP?

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #223 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:09am

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:02am:

Walking on Ularu is against their rules, dear. They even call it the law.

Cunning, no?

Laws change. Everything changes. Australia is changing. Why don't aborigines have to change?

Why can't tourists change?

It's not as if FD's a regular Ularu climber.

Who own's your mum's house, by the way? You haven't said.

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Reply #224 - Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:12am

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:09am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:04am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 8^th, 2017 at 8:02am:

Walking on Ularu is against their rules, dear. They even call it the law.

Cunning, no?

Laws change. Everything changes. Australia is changing. Why don't aborigines have to change?

Why can't tourists change?

It's not as if FD's a regular Ularu climber.

Who own's your mum's house, by the way? You haven't said.

Why are you interested in my mothers house? Do you want to stop people walking on the lawn or something?

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