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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #151 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage? Cheesy

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #152 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:15pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:18am:

Valkie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:06am:

I have an aboriginal friend, who is an aboriginal historian.

She once told me that there are three requirements for a sacred site.
1) it has to be secret....
2) it has to be looked after and blessed by an elder or sharman on a regular basis.
3) it has to have some significance or link to the tribe using it.

Working on these requirements.
Aires rock is not a sacred site as it IS NO LONGER SECRET.

Besides.......ITS JUST A DAMN ROCK.

good for you. Did he also tell you that there are over 600 different aboriginal 'tribes' or 'clans', each with their own customs and beliefs? Cheesy

Lefties gotta luv 'em... yeah and what about those billions of people and thousands of years of heterosexual marriage eh... oh... not as important as a handful of Aboriginals eh. Cheesy

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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock Reply #153 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:26pm Why go into the middle of the country to climb a rock? There is nothing out there but a Hollywood selfie! Think, there is no f'n water out there so you're a lunatic to think it's cool to visit certain death!
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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #154 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #155 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

Do you respect the views of Aborigines who don't want the rock climbed, as well as the views of non-Aborigines who want to climb it?

Is that a case of one or the other?

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #156 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

That's where you are wrong and always will be Peccer. Roll Eyes

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #157 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:39pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

Do you respect the views of Aborigines who don't want the rock climbed, as well as the views of non-Aborigines who want to climb it?

Is that a case of one or the other?

Yes.

No.

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #158 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:40pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

That's where you are wrong and always will be Peccer. Roll Eyes

You can't tell me what I do or don't respect.

Sorry, old chap.

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #159 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage? Cheesy

A. For most people, marriage has nothing to do with the church
B. no one says your church has to marry gays. Your spiritual beliefs are being respected.

That doesn't however give you the right to tell me what I can and can't do with my beliefs.

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #160 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:42pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:18am:

Valkie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:06am:

I have an aboriginal friend, who is an aboriginal historian.

She once told me that there are three requirements for a sacred site.
1) it has to be secret....
2) it has to be looked after and blessed by an elder or sharman on a regular basis.
3) it has to have some significance or link to the tribe using it.

Working on these requirements.
Aires rock is not a sacred site as it IS NO LONGER SECRET.

Besides.......ITS JUST A DAMN ROCK.

good for you. Did he also tell you that there are over 600 different aboriginal 'tribes' or 'clans', each with their own customs and beliefs? Cheesy

Lefties gotta luv 'em... yeah and what about those billions of people and thousands of years of heterosexual marriage eh... oh... not as important as a handful of Aboriginals eh. Cheesy

trying to compare respecting a sacred site to a question of legal recognition of marriage is desperation stuff, even for you

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #161 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:44pm

Valkie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

Valkie wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:21am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Don't talk nonsense, smith - anyone who climbed on the ANZAC Memorial would be arrested.

EXACTLY

But the Anzac memorial isnt JUST A ROCK is it?

you decide what's sacred to you, they decide what is sacred to them.

If someone is stooopid enough to climb over ANY building, they would be arrested

Not for desecration of the site, but for shere stooopidity

Building are meant to be lived in or visited, not climbed.

Again......Ayres rock is......A ROCK

yeah ... cause people never climb on buildings .... ya idjut

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72266 Gender:	Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock Reply #162 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:46pm Marla wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 1:28pm: Ooooh, how risky! be fair Marla ... he sunburns very easily
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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #163 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:47pm

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

Do you respect the views of Aborigines who don't want the rock climbed, as well as the views of non-Aborigines who want to climb it?

Is that a case of one or the other?

they own it you don't ... they get to make the rules

why was I banned?

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Re: I'm going to climb Ayres Rock
Reply #164 - Nov 4^th, 2017 at 8:08pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 6:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:33am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 1^st, 2017 at 10:50pm:

I bet every one of you whingers would cry murder if you has an abo climb on your anzac memorial Cheesy

Ayres Rock is just a geological feature, nobody built it.

War memorials were built for a very specific reason and are also there to honor fallen Aboriginal soldiers.

Find a better analogy.

I don't care if it was man made or not. Ayers rock holds spiritual significance to many aboriginals. That they didn't build their temples, and instead relied on nature as their temple, doesn't make it any less important to them.

As i was saying about LW Progs and shallow thinkers, funnily enough they stand up for Aboriginal spiritual/religious rights etc, but don't give a damn when it comes to things like... oh I don't know... traditional marriage?

I respect traditional marriage.

I also respect same sex marriage.

It's not a case of one or the other, you know.

Do you respect the views of Aborigines who don't want the rock climbed, as well as the views of non-Aborigines who want to climb it?

Is that a case of one or the other?

they own it you don't ... they get to make the rules

why was I banned?

I think you'll find that the government was ultimately responsible for this decision.

Do you disagree with Pecca's claim that we can have it both ways?

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