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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Police let off Premier's wife Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:15pm http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/its-who-you-know/news-story/cb6115...
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #1 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:18pm It seems like a big case of who you know, what you know. And the police not doing their duty, for which they're payed by the taxpayer.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #2 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80183 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #3 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:21pm How unusual............................
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #4 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:12pm i doubt the cops would even know who the opposition leaders wife is.
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Reply #5 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made?

It wasn't an RBT. It was for a breath test after an accident.

I don't know about Victoria, but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test. Doesn't matter if you are sober or not. You try refusing an RBT and see whether they let you off.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #6 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm: but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test. no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.
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Re: Police let off Premier's wife
Reply #7 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made?

It wasn't an RBT. It was for a breath test after an accident.

I don't know about Victoria, but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test. Doesn't matter if you are sober or not. You try refusing an RBT and see whether they let you off.

Sorry, my mistake in stating RBT, it was a compulsory breath test that wasn't enforced by the police.

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Reply #8 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made?

It wasn't an RBT. It was for a breath test after an accident.

I don't know about Victoria, but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test. Doesn't matter if you are sober or not. You try refusing an RBT and see whether they let you off.

even more reason to take a breath test..

The father of the 15-year-old cyclist injured in the crash confirmed to the Herald Sun that he was still waiting to hear from the Premier and his wife more than four years later.
The boy was taken to the Royal Children’s Hospital, where he underwent surgery to stem internal bleeding, also suffering a punctured lung, broken ribs and cuts.

Vic police nothing surprises me there.. Angry

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #9 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm: lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm: but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test. no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered. no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered requested. Fixed.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #10 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm A correction to the Title is necessary. At the relevant time, the woman was not a then current Premier's Wife.
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Re: Police let off Premier's wife
Reply #11 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered requested.

Fixed.

how can you possibly know that

the police refuse to release documents...

this kid looks like he had serious injuries and not a word from Mrs Premier... Angry

I bet if it was Mrs Abbott the left would be bellyaching..

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Reply #12 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:23pm

cods wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered requested.

Fixed.

how can you possibly know that

the police refuse to release documents...

this kid looks like he had serious injuries and not a word from Mrs Premier... Angry

I bet if it was Mrs Abbott the left would be bellyaching..

About what? The fact the cops didn't do their job?

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Reply #13 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:39pm

cods wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered requested.

Fixed.

how can you possibly know that

the police refuse to release documents...

this kid looks like he had serious injuries and not a word from Mrs Premier... Angry

I bet if it was Mrs Abbott the left would be bellyaching..

I was really really sneaky, cods. I secretly crept on and evasively read the link in the opening post. Nasty of creepy me, I know.

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Victoria Police officers arriving at the scene did not follow standard procedure and failed to breathalyse the then Opposition Leader’s wife and an internal investigation was launched.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #14 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:40pm cods wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm: how can you possibly know that I read the article
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Rider Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2669 OnTheRoad Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #15 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 4:54pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm: Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made? She ran down a kid on a bicycle, that make it more relevent for you?
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #16 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm Just imagine if this had been a conservative like Abbott. The left would be screaming blue murder. One rule for the left, one for everyone else.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #17 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:39pm matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Just imagine I guess that's all you've got ... imagination. you certainly have no facts.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #18 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 9:32pm matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Just imagine if this had been a conservative like Abbott. The left would be screaming blue murder. One rule for the left, one for everyone else. Doubt it but please continue
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Reply #19 - Oct 24^th, 2017 at 9:33pm

Rider wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 4:54pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Whilst I agree this is dereliction of duty on behalf of the police, if the Premiers wife was sober, what difference would an RBT have made?

She ran down a kid on a bicycle, that make it more relevent for you?

Well she collided with a kid on a bicycle, at least thats my reading of the artricle.

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2017 at 9:13am -
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #21 - Oct 27^th, 2017 at 9:14am John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:39pm: matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Just imagine I guess that's all you've got ... imagination. you certainly have no facts. I do have one fact - she wasn't breath-tested as she should have been.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #22 - Oct 27^th, 2017 at 9:15am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 9:32pm: matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm: Just imagine if this had been a conservative like Abbott. The left would be screaming blue murder. One rule for the left, one for everyone else. Doubt it but please continue Bronwyn Bishop is just one example.
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Reply #23 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 10:13am

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.

Better stick to your climate misinformation lee. At least you can camouflage your BS better.

matty wrote on Oct 27^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:39pm:

matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Just imagine

I guess that's all you've got ... imagination.

you certainly have no facts.

I do have one fact - she wasn't breath-tested as she should have been.

And the police involved have been disciplined for this error. I realise that Bolt loves his political witch hunts but the only party at fault here were the police.

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Reply #24 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 10:27am

matty wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 6:37pm:

Just imagine if this had been a conservative like Abbott. The left would be screaming blue murder.

One rule for the left, one for everyone else.

Amazingly incredible that the one time a copper "forgot" to do their simple job.....it was a Labor politicians wife......but never mind, the officers have undergone extra training so nothing to see here. Move on.

Clearly not all animals are equal.....as a truckie all the times I've been pulled over by Vic Pol or Vic Roads I've never seen them forget to check any thing, infact they tend to keep on checking until they do find something, like a loose wire to a clearance light, then its "ah hah... see another irresponsible unroadworthy truck,....hero's one and all.....how strange is that?

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Reply #25 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 12:08pm

The bullshit argument here is that the (future) wife of the Premier had an accident whilst she was drunk and the police let her off....The implication is that political influence was used to get off a serious driving offence....There are also those who claim there are different standards for those on the left as opposed to the right....

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Former WA treasurer Troy Buswell's chief of staff attempted to deliberately conceal crucial details about her boss's late night crash in a ministerial car, a report by the state's corruption watchdog has found.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-16/troy-buswell-chief-of-staff-misconduct-ove...

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Police let off Premier's wife Reply #26 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 12:11pm guess what! I COULDNT CARE BLOODY LESS..
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Reply #27 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 28^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

The bullshit argument here is that the (future) wife of the Premier had an accident whilst she was drunk and the police let her off....The implication is that political influence was used to get off a serious driving offence....There are also those who claim there are different standards for those on the left as opposed to the right....

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Former WA treasurer Troy Buswell's chief of staff attempted to deliberately conceal crucial details about her boss's late night crash in a ministerial car, a report by the state's corruption watchdog has found.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-16/troy-buswell-chief-of-staff-misconduct-ove...

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Chalk meet Cheese.

1/10 for trying.

Oh, I think you mean wife of (future) Premier....actually make that 0/10.

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Reply #28 - Oct 28^th, 2017 at 8:25pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

cods wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:

lee wrote on Oct 24^th, 2017 at 2:13pm:

but most jurisdictions make it illegal to refuse a breath test.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered.

no one refused anything. It simply wasn't offered requested.

Fixed.

how can you possibly know that

the police refuse to release documents...

this kid looks like he had serious injuries and not a word from Mrs Premier... Angry

I bet if it was Mrs Abbott the left would be bellyaching..

I was really really sneaky, cods. I secretly crept on and evasively read the link in the opening post. Nasty of creepy me, I know.

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Victoria Police officers arriving at the scene did not follow standard procedure and failed to breathalyse the then Opposition Leader’s wife and an internal investigation was launched.

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Reply #29 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 8:06am

Damn right she should have been breath tested! The fact that she wasn’t should lay firmly on not only the police and their leadership, but the minister for police at the time Now which government was in charge of Victoria when this occurred and should have demanded an explanation of why and how this failure occurred?

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Reply #30 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 8:36am

Vic wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 8:06am:

Damn right she should have been breath tested! The fact that she wasn’t should lay firmly on not only the police and their leadership, but the minister for police at the time Now which government was in charge of Victoria when this occurred and should have demanded an explanation of why and how this failure occurred?

There is a hyper enforcement of laws and rules and regulations against the ordinary citizen, the majority, but a different approach taken with a minority of power or influence.
This is what is disturbing. Seemingly just another case of preferential, indeed deferential, treatment.

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