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"As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Oct 23rd, 2017 at 7:23pm
 

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels......"



In the last week i have seen an ABC TV promo,
which shows happy 'Aussie' moslems [in full 'ISLAMIC' garb] confidently declaring their own 'Aussie'-ness, and publicly confirming and affirming, their love for everything Australian.   !!!

[And our national broadcaster, the ABC, seems to have - UNQUESTIONINGLY - sucked this up.]



A question to the many moslems in Australia,
those who have publicly declared their love for Australia...


Q.
How do you reconcile your love of Allah and your love of Allah's religion,
with your love for Australia and with your undoubted, declared friendship with disbelieving Australians ?

i.e.
Your friendship with Australians, who are not moslem, and with Australians who would absolutely,
reject the precepts of hatred that are inexorably entwined within the religion of Allah ?

And, the religion which you, as a moslem, profess to be joined to !




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Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels......"

"Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone"

"an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart."

"this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam"

"if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!"

  - from The Al Qaeda Reader [AND, doctrinally supported, throughout the religious texts of mainstream ISLAM]



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Quote:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels, this is summarized by the Most High's Word:

‘We renounce you. Enmity and hate shall forever reign between us -- till you believe in Allah alone’ [Koran 60:4].

So there is an enmity, evidenced by fierce hostility from the heart.

And this fierce hostility -- that is, battle -- ceases only if the infidel submits to the authority of Islam, or if his blood is forbidden from being shed [i.e., a dhimmi], or if Muslims are at that point in time weak and incapable [i.e., taqiyya].

But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!

Such, then, is the basis and foundation of the relationship between the infidel and the Muslim.

Battle, animosity, and hatred -- directed from the Muslim to the infidel -- is the foundation of our religion.

And we consider this a justice and kindness to them" (from The Al Qaeda Reader).

.....It bears repeating that this hostile world view is well supported by all of Islam’s schools of jurisprudence."



cited here, from.....

November 10, 2008
Raymond Ibrahim: "Islam's Doctrines of Deception"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/raymond-ibrahim-islams-doctrines-of-deception....



n.b. the words....

".....But if the hate at any time extinguishes from the heart, this is great apostasy!"


Translation....

If the hatred for non-moslems, at any time extinguishes from the heart of a moslem, "this is great apostasy!"

i.e.
You can only be a REAL moslem, if you have a burning HATRED for those who reject ISLAM.



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ARGUMENT;

Every moslem, worthy of that name,
knows what is halal [permitted] in ISLAM,
and knows what is haram [forbidden] in ISLAM.


Any moslem who would suggest other than that, is either [implausibly] ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.

Hating, fighting, and killing, those who reject ISLAM, or, those who insult Allah's religion, is completely kosher.

....and
"is the foundation of our religion"
. !!!


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Re: "As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 7:25pm
 

TRUTH

ISLAM proper absolutely, religiously, disallows acceptance of all influences of, and forms of, 'disbelief'.




BUT, for the purpose of promoting a general acceptance of ISLAM and acceptance of their own community in their new country;


ISLAM - SPECIFICALLY - allows moslems to pretend friendship with disbelievers.



And allows moslems to pretend the acceptance, in their religion,
of living in peaceful co-existence with disbelievers.

But it can be determined [by what moslems have, often, been overheard to declare among themselves] that this ruse [this deceit] is put in place and established for only one purpose;

So as to promote a general and widespread acceptance of the presence ISLAM, and the presence of their own community, in their new country !

Q.
But, any reasonable person must ask,      .....To what [undeclared] purpose ?



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Quote:

July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"
(Qur'an 3:28).

In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."


Google




Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"




Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine



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IMAGE...
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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:
How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong


"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...



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Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

London, Sept.8 [2007]

A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece



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And we see moslems themselves [as their strength and their confidence in their own malevolent intent towards us grows],
are beginning to openly declare their malevolent intent.



When weak, preach peace.

In strength, kill and terrorise the [near] infidel.


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123



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IMAGE.....
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"We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah and we are not ashamed of that,..."



Quote:

By Nicolai Sennels on May 31, 2017 09:02 am

The real cause of Islamic terrorism: “We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah”


Every time a new jihad attack strikes innocents in the West, media and politicians get busy blaming “bad integration,” “poverty,” “marginalization,” “racism,” etc.

For some reason, it never occurs to them to ask if Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam and the increasing number of followers of this particular religion in our countries......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/the-real-cause-of-islamic-terrorism-we-are-mo...






WAKE UP PEOPLE !


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Re: "As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Reply #2 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 7:26pm
 

These precepts are embedded within mainstream ISLAM,
and are precepts which ISLAM teaches, to every moslem child.

And, they are mainstream ISLAMIC precepts, which local moslems are NOT revealing to us,
the naive infidels!



Quote:

"THE RIGHT TO JUDGE"

"It is not the function of Islam to compromise

with the concepts of Jahiliyya which are current in the world

or to co-exist in the same land together with a jahili system........"


- SAYYID QUTB - ISLAMIC scholar
http://www.islamworld.net/justice.html

OR, Google;
"THE RIGHT TO JUDGE" SAYYID QUTB


Jahiliyya = = any un-ISLAMIC lifestyle, or un-ISLAMIC influence.

e.g. such as pluralism, or, support for democracy.

The 'Jahiliyya' lifestyle is totally incompatible with ISLAM.



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These precepts are embedded within mainstream ISLAM,
and are precepts which ISLAM teaches, to every moslem child.

And, they are mainstream ISLAMIC precepts, which local moslems are NOT revealing to us,
the naive infidels!



Quote:

"....Jahiliyya is a result of the lack of Sharia law, without which Islam cannot exist;"

"...true Islam is a complete system with no room for any element of Jahiliyya"

"...all aspects of Jahiliyya...are "evil and corrupt" "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyya#Jahiliyya_in_contemporary_society




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Moslems here, in Australia, are more than ready to declare their acceptance of the Australian lifestyle and the freedoms and rights and responsibilities, which being a citizen of Australia entails.


BUT HOW CAN THIS BE ?

BECAUSE REAL ISLAM, CALLS FOR SOCIAL OSTRACISM, AND HOSTILITY, BY MOSLEMS,
TOWARDS EVERY 'DISBELIEVER'.  !!!



THE RELIGIOUS DOCTRINES OF ISLAM PROMOTE COMMUNITY DIVISION AND THE SOCIAL ALIENATION OF EVERY 'DISBELIEVER'       [unless a person submits to ISLAM's own strictures - e.g. like agreeing to the murdering of those who reject ISLAM's authority]


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



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ARGUMENT;
For those who would argue that those Koran verses are an anachronism,       ....and that Koran verses do not reflect or guide, the intent of the moslem community, here in Australia, today,             .....I would offer, that the Koran is, and always has been, ~the~ most important source of religious authority for ISLAMIC religious leaders, and ~the~ most important source of religious instruction, for every moslem.    [and moslems themselves will openly attest to this fact]

Any person who would suggest other than that, is either ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.




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Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim



"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."




By definition,       every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

And every moslem is a supporter of what ISLAMIC law
endorses,
promotes, and
encourages.




WAKE UP PEOPLE !


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Re: "As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 12:23pm
 
Cheers Ringo

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: "As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Reply #4 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 6:24pm
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 7:23pm:

"As to the relationship between Muslims and infidels......"



In the last week i have seen an ABC TV promo,
which shows happy 'Aussie' moslems [in full 'ISLAMIC' garb] confidently declaring their own 'Aussie'-ness, and publicly confirming and affirming, their love for everything Australian.   !!!

[And our national broadcaster, the ABC, seems to have - UNQUESTIONINGLY - sucked this up.]



CORRECTION;
It is a TV promo playing on SBS1


Google;
sbs, the mosque next door


parts of this promo can be seen playing on SBS atm.....

The Mosque Next Door - Starts Wednesday 8 November, 8.30pm, SBS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4C6rD_iZo






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In the promo [above], we see a lot of smiling, confident, happy moslems.

But will this documentary series address any of the questions posed in this thread ?

e.g.
Quote:

A question to the many moslems in Australia,
those who have publicly declared their love for Australia...


Q.
How do you reconcile your love of Allah and your love of Allah's religion,
with your love for Australia and with your undoubted, declared friendship with disbelieving Australians ?

i.e.
Your friendship with Australians, who are not moslem, and with Australians who would absolutely,
reject the precepts of hatred that are inexorably entwined within the religion of Allah ?

And, the religion which you, as a moslem, profess to be joined to !




Q.
Will these 'Aussie' moslems simply deny,
that mainstream ISLAM teaches precepts of hatred and hostility, towards disbelievers and those who reject ISLAM ?

Q.
And will these 'Aussie' moslems simply deny that those moslems who are attacking, and fighting, and killing disbelievers and those who reject ISLAM,
are justified, by their religion and by their Allah ?

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Re: "As to the relationship between Muslims and infid
Reply #5 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 6:44pm
 
meh...
It's the ABC Yadda....
The fifth Column writ large.

We are being whiteanted by LW progressives...  it would seem there is nothing we can do about it.
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