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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #300 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:18pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 2:50pm:
Hear Hear  Wink



my son in law was a NSW copper and went to many DV....he would argue very much with what grap says,..

unless he has been a victim of police brutality  over DV..

I dont kn ow where he gets his info from... the coppers hate going to DVs  they really really do...

it really isnt their job...but they get stuck with it...if there is violence I believe they have to remove the offender and if they have to get tough then whos fault is that????>.don t tell me the cop like going out and getting in a fight with a man whos wife nine times out of ten  refuses to have him charged and then takes him back.....

you dont thi nk the cops have seen every kind of DV claim in their careers...ye gods they are mostly first on the scene....and would have seen everything and heard everything... so the word violence would mean bugger all..

as for using the word skank...thats about as low as it can get  and thats what a lot of women put up with...

I am sure grap feels a whole lot better n ow he has sunk to that level...

says more about him than an y women.

unbelieveable.. Angry [/quote]

Where did I say that ALL women were skanks?  I merely said "never MARRY a skank".... you'll never 'save' her   with love and sweetness and she will inevitably kick you in the teeth and often make YOU the bearer of responsibility for all her 'issues'....

Many - MANY years ago there was a movie about that starring Brian Keith as the father of a young man who thought that if he only gave this woman enough love etc she would 'come good'..... wise old dad said - "never going to happen!".
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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #301 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:08pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:09pm:
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
who blames ALL men drah??>. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Feminists!

That's why everyone hates feminists, including real women who never sleep with danger after trotting off down the nightclub twice a week to replay their favourite hollywood scence over and over and over.



well drah you are sounding just like those you blame..

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

you sound like a women hater

just like feminists are called men haters...

what is the difference.  Roll Eyes



Nah - he loves women - he just wants them to rise above the cesspools of feminism.
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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #302 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:09pm:
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cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:04pm:
drah  grap didnt know that women from a bar of soap...but he used a word....that is completely unacceptable to describe her... he does not have a good word to say about females...maybe he has a right to feel like he does  but his way of thinking I believe is wrong..

if anyone thinks "ALL"  its grap   his idea of ALL women is not great I can tell you.

Yet you think you have the right to blame all men?



can you show me where I have ever blamed ALL men for DV,, drah...thank you!

That's the trouble with making generalisations: the person saying it doesn't even realise they are over-generalising.

It's called a slippery slope, cods: this is feminism!

It's also known as extremism or hysteria.

...or, more simply, womens politics.

...but but but but women still demand their right to demand a new dress every two weeks to run off down the nightclub and bum drinks off blokes for a laugh!
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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #303 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:26pm
 
mothra wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 2:41pm:
Sadly, i think it's just all got to come down to responsibility. And there's not enough of it about.

I know full well that some women are simply awful. I went to an all-girl's school. I've also walked a teenage daughter through the mine-field. And i have a son on the the threshold and i am very concerned about some of the entitlement i see.

It's just not okay by me to hit someone. I don't think it's okay for women to hit men or for men to hit women.

I don't really understand the point of breaking down the demographics into blocks. You've got two fists and two feet and a head. It is entirely up to you not to use them to gravely injure another person. If you are capable of gravely injuring another person and you do so, then you are an arsehole.

All of this reciprocity stuff is a little too close to victim blaming to me. Yes, family violence should be intervened with and brought to a stop wherever we can find it .. and men need to come forward more, the main reason they don't is other men, and i think you all know that  ... but men just aren't turning up with their heads caved in in the numbers women are.

If it's reciprocal, then it's necessary force, no more.



No - not 'victim blaming' because it seems that BOTH sides have a part in this and therefore BOTH are victim and victimiser.  We really need to discuss these issues fairly and not hide behind squid's ink like 'victim blaming''.

What do you mean 'men need to come forward more'?  What kind of men do YOU know?  Certainly fine and upstanding Men like myself have condemned violence from all quarters - and have fairly pointed out that replacing the POSSIBILITY of violence with direct violence by the State is a self-defeating exercise.

Regardless of whatever socialist etc 'philosophers' say - all power does NOT reside in the State, and nor should it, since that path is the path to death for millions, as history has shown us.  The State in reality, being appointed by and on behalf of the people, is subject to those people.
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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #304 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:28pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:18pm:
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 2:50pm:
Hear Hear  Wink



my son in law was a NSW copper and went to many DV....he would argue very much with what grap says,..

unless he has been a victim of police brutality  over DV..

I dont kn ow where he gets his info from... the coppers hate going to DVs  they really really do...

it really isnt their job...but they get stuck with it...if there is violence I believe they have to remove the offender and if they have to get tough then whos fault is that????>.don t tell me the cop like going out and getting in a fight with a man whos wife nine times out of ten  refuses to have him charged and then takes him back.....

you dont thi nk the cops have seen every kind of DV claim in their careers...ye gods they are mostly first on the scene....and would have seen everything and heard everything... so the word violence would mean bugger all..

as for using the word skank...thats about as low as it can get  and thats what a lot of women put up with...

I am sure grap feels a whole lot better n ow he has sunk to that level...

says more about him than an y women.

unbelieveable.. Angry


Where did I say that ALL women were skanks?  I merely said "never MARRY a skank".... you'll never 'save' her   with love and sweetness and she will inevitably kick you in the teeth and often make YOU the bearer of responsibility for all her 'issues'....

Many - MANY years ago there was a movie about that starring Brian Keith as the father of a young man who thought that if he only gave this woman enough love etc she would 'come good'..... wise old dad said - "never going to happen!". [/quote]



grap movies   are for the most part fiction.... and I think you watch too many to be honest..

yes women do have many many faults...does that mean men have very very few???.. I dont think so..

you chose to use the word skank to describe a women you had seen on TV,....some men would probably call her a slut or a whore..all good words to use when you backed into a corner.....

most wars start with the name calling   perhaps men  never think about that.when screaming abuse.....

if a women calls a man a wimp or a no hoper...or deadbeat  females are called harradines


there are many names men can lay their tongues too most of which  are not true   but they hurt all the same.
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Reply #305 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm
 
cods, if a woman wants to sleep with a criminal and get lippy on the boring drugs: what can daddy do?

What can all the good men in that family do if she decides to give her address to nobody?
I know,... keep the terrible secret on her behalf for the next few years until she feels the need to slowly let it out  Shocked
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Reply #306 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:38pm
 
The part where, 'the wise old man says, "never going to happen"': wise old women say that aswell but you don't want that to be true.

This is life... we all have equal responsibility when it comes to safety.
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Reply #307 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:45pm
 
.. and we've already covered the reason women show up with 'their heads caved in' (a rare event in reality) ...reciprocal violence leads to greater harm to one side, generally the smaller.

Even Britain's SAS (jocularly known among themselves as 'short and stupid') does not contain a high number of large men - and they are taught to bring down a man twice their size in under three seconds .... I won't say how ...

Anyway - far better to address the reasons for violence in all areas, rather than stick to one side all the time.  That hasn't helped, and won't help, anyone.
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Reply #308 - Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:53pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm:
cods, if a woman wants to sleep with a criminal and get lippy on the boring drugs: what can daddy do?

What can all the good men in that family do if she decides to give her address to nobody?
I know,... keep the terrible secret on her behalf for the next few years until she feels the need to slowly let it out  Shocked



Ye Gods - parents don't even have the right to take back their runaway daughters who choose to run off with some cult leader or some older man... what 'rights' do the 'good men' in the family have?  To go out and break the law and beat up some c*nt for beating on their sister who ran off with him?

The courts would scream 'vigilantes'!
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Reply #309 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 7:06am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:45pm:
.. and we've already covered the reason women show up with 'their heads caved in' (a rare event in reality) ...reciprocal violence leads to greater harm to one side, generally the smaller.

Even Britain's SAS (jocularly known among themselves as 'short and stupid') does not contain a high number of large men - and they are taught to bring down a man twice their size in under three seconds .... I won't say how ...

Anyway - far better to address the reasons for violence in all areas, rather than stick to one side all the time.  That hasn't helped, and won't help, anyone.



grap its you who continually brings up gender   no one else...

we have been saying for a long time stop calling it Domestic violence.. Rose Batty says its family violence...and shes right  almost nothing is said about the toll of the children involved..

you claim the Police are violent nothing could be further from the truth  nine times out of 10 children are at the scene they attend.. you act as if one size fits all... it doesnt  thats the trouble with DVOs  most people take heed of them but many  others snap....how is a judge meant to know which is which.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

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Re: The domestic violence situation
Reply #310 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 2:54pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:08pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:09pm:
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
who blames ALL men drah??>. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Feminists!

That's why everyone hates feminists, including real women who never sleep with danger after trotting off down the nightclub twice a week to replay their favourite hollywood scence over and over and over.



well drah you are sounding just like those you blame..

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

you sound like a women hater

just like feminists are called men haters...

what is the difference.  Roll Eyes



If I can blame all women, I can't see why Death shouldn't blame all men, dear.
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Reply #311 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 24th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 5:08pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:09pm:
cods wrote on Oct 23rd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
who blames ALL men drah??>. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Feminists!

That's why everyone hates feminists, including real women who never sleep with danger after trotting off down the nightclub twice a week to replay their favourite hollywood scence over and over and over.



well drah you are sounding just like those you blame..

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..

you sound like a women hater

just like feminists are called men haters...

what is the difference.  Roll Eyes



If I can blame all women, I can't see why Death shouldn't blame all men, dear.




who on earth is death???
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Reply #312 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
Men are the most common victim of domestic abuse.

We also get no support.
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Reply #313 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 4:05pm
 
DV comes in many forms.   Women against men, men against women, women against children, men against children but the simple fact is that domestic violence against men is under-studied, under-reported and there are no adequate support services in place.
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Reply #314 - Oct 24th, 2017 at 7:13pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24th, 2017 at 3:23pm:
Men are the most common victim of domestic abuse.

We also get no support.


That's what you're Moslem says, Sprint.

Victim mentality, innit.
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