cods wrote on Oct 19
th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
[quote author=The_Grappler link=1508359045/4#4 date=1508367844]Unfortunately, cods, the concept of 'addressing violence in society', begun in 1992, has not progressed beyond what was then labeled 'the first step' - which was cutting down on man v woman violence.
Due to the hysterics and hystrionics of the feminist lobbies, with their endless 'upgrading' of what actually constitutes 'violence' (but only against women) in this context, this 'program' has never moved one step forward from that, and has instead become mired in the kind of endless slogging that was The Western Front in WW I - with increasing casualties on all sides and no end in sight.
You will recall that at the time, I said that Rose Batty had wanted to address FAMILY violence as a whole, but was forced to regurgitate the approved line - that men are the culprits 100% of the time. Her special case was clearly special - her estranged was a certified nutter, and his actions bear zero resemblance to the normal daily fare that makes up what is popularly called 'domestic violence' - by those without the capacity to think clearly.
Meanwhile men are thrown out of their homes, robbed of their families and their accumulated wealth, and often assaulted, deprived of rights and personal liberties, and are, as a result, becoming more and more second class citizens in the nation they built. Never a more clear picture of what WILL eventually bring about revolt... and but one of the issues that are disturbing and distressing many Australians and driving them to as near a rebellion as they can get - and all because we have fools with power trying to impose the will of their preferred lobby groups... in this case the women's groups.
So, no - it is not a matter of my turning it into just women v men - I am more than aware of all the other issues in FAMILY violence, and have laid out for you all before why the current approach is a failure.[/quote]
you do understand though its PEOPLE that make things "fail" not the system..
if everyone thought the same there would be no ozpol forums would there??
we would all wear the same things the same colour and drive the same car.....
everyone of us has a good and dark side.. yes even me hard to believe I know.. but I prefer to encourage the good rather than the ugly....when I am shown the ugly side of someone I tell them how disappointed I am not for me for them...their behavior shows them up I feel....
now this starts at a young age...when kids are farmed out to childcare centers more or less from the day they are born...they are not taught about behavior when a child ,plays up at childcare they tell the parent to find another centre as they find this child too difficult to deal with... how sad is that?>...dump them on someone else in the hope they get fixed...in the mean time we have a huge issue with kids falling through the cracks who go on to be adults...who never fit in but they also produce more kids to fall through the ever present gaps....a vicious circle..
but it isnt the system that fails its the adults....
I dont think we put enough emphasis on being NICE to be honest....lets face it grap the things that make the news.. youtube are mostly horrible things...kids fighting even the girls...damaging other people property ...thats all cool apparently...we have some smashing things done by very young people and bless their hearts they get awards for these things.. but they hardly get a mention ....we have many young kids who are carers for their sick parents.. do we read about them... barely?...look at our threads...the gross ones get the most hits...
DV is also a back burner topic now...its all too ho hum ..
it needs people to change grap...and to change we need to listen.. most people that are the main cause of DV are selfish all about me types....
a lot of mistakes have been made but they are being fixed....but at the end of the day its up to us...
Unfortunately, cods, the current dealing alienates and marginalises people (wow - and some reckon we do that to raving Musos!
) , and by being itself an act of violence or several acts of violence, cements violence as the way things are done and invites retaliation.
For certain others here - I often quote the Dalai Lama on violence to you - and it frankly disgusts me that you are incapable of seeing the realities involved from ALL sides of the question, and to see who is actually perpetrating violence in any given incident. You really need to get out more, methinks and learn the real world.
Put simply (needs to be) when the State exercises violence to still violence, it is in danger of disappearing up its own anus... stoopid is as stoopid does...