Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19
th, 2017 at 10:02am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 19
th, 2017 at 7:19am:
Maybe they could just try not arguing at home.... there are more men homeless than women, every time, and the current handling of 'domestic violence' is a disgrace in many ways, and is itself the root cause of much violence.
Women get massive priority in housing when homeless, and the figures are inflated by including children as if they have nothing to do with their father(s). Not only that but claiming domestic violence is a convenient way of getting bumped up the list etc, and the desire of a woman to go her own way without thought or consideration for others is not 'domestic violence'.
The reasons for women and children living in cars etc should be FULLY explored... most of it is called poverty and hopelessness... most violence is reciprocal and often based on despair and abuse of substances etc .... fix those and you are a long way ahead of the game.
You will never resolve the issues of family violence while ever you adhere to the paradigm of 'women victims - men victimisers' and listen to the strident feminist propaganda about it all.
Good point, Bogie, and I agree. There is a chronic shortage of women's crisis services.
In my experience though, you create a homeless crisis service and it gets filled. You create another, and that gets filled up too.
Women leave one violent relationship, and within a year, they're in another. The cycle continues, the children suffer.
As Tony Abbott said when he opposed Rudd's homeless funding, "the poor will always be with us" (Matthew 26:11). While this was roundly condemned, there's a lot of truth to it.
There is a massively greater crisis in men's crisis services - and nobody really wants to address that. There are ZERO services for men thrown out of their home over family violence unless you want to sleep with the great unwashed.
True - a service will rapidly fill up for any number of reasons not necessarily related to family violence (my cousin works in one). The prime drivers seem to link with your next paragraph - a poor upbringing leads to an inability to establish and maintain a viable relationship, and this becomes serial, and unless the root causes of violence overall in a society are addressed - and how can they be in any meaningful way? - there can be no real solution, only an endless parade of people bumping into one another and producing sparks and then bouncing, like a ball in a pinball machine, into someone else.
(I think Paul Simon got that one somewhere.... lessee now... 'there's a girl in New York city, calls herself the human trampoline' ... could have several meanings but it seems to fit.....)
P.S. Not sure how my quote got tangled up with a reference to Bogie......
P.P.S In housing the poor try to avoid the Ministries Of Truth such as exist in Waterloo...
bleak monoliths staring stone-faced and petulantly at the sky while hiding behind their skirts the agony of thousands... (s'all me own work 'at is). I know a lady who lives in one of those, linked up with a bloke there and he was a nutter.....