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Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:46pm
 
Tony Abbott's Climate Speech.
Some love it...  other's hate him Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #1 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
The whole world laughs at him!

The whole Internet knows this fool gave the super economy from the antipodes copper Internet in the Asian century it built!

They know he hates kids.....  Wink
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......Australia has an illegitimate Government!
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:25pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Tony Abbott's Climate Speech.
Some love it...  other's hate him Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Except that Abbott's claims don't stand up to any scrutiny.
Tony Abbott revealed his aversion to science when his government became the first in over 80 years not to have a science minister.
To have such a scientific illiterate giving such a flawed speech on climate science was actually quite bizarre.
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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Tony Abbott's Climate Speech.
Some love it...  other's hate him Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Except that Abbott's claims don't stand up to any scrutiny.
Tony Abbott revealed his aversion to science when his government became the first in over 80 years not to have a science minister.
To have such a scientific illiterate giving such a flawed speech on climate science was actually quite bizarre.

Feel free to post and explain them here since you failed to do so in politics.
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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
why start another thread in environment?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
why start another thread in environment?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


he got spread eagled and poked in the anus on the other one ?
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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:56pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
he got spread eagled and poked in the anus on the other one ?



have you checked out the tide gauge data for Fort Denison yet? Can you show us this acceleration is Sea level Rise?
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Reply #7 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 9:46pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:31pm:
he got spread eagled and poked in the anus on the other one ?



have you checked out the tide gauge data for Fort Denison yet? Can you show us this acceleration is Sea level Rise?


Oh, we've all plumbed Fort Grendel, Lee.

She's the easiest rise on the board.
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Reply #8 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 10:26pm
 
Yeah. but Dna is the one ducking the science. Wink
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Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:05am
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Tony Abbott's Climate Speech.
Some love it...  other's hate him Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Except that Abbott's claims don't stand up to any scrutiny.
Tony Abbott revealed his aversion to science when his government became the first in over 80 years not to have a science minister.
To have such a scientific illiterate giving such a flawed speech on climate science was actually quite bizarre.

Feel free to post and explain them here since you failed to do so in politics.


Even Whatsupwiththat accepts that sea levels are rising.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/06/sea-level-graphs-from-uc-and-some-perspec...

It makes Tony Abbott look like a complete fool when his claims are even contradicted by denialist blogs like whatsupwiththat
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Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:31am
 
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
Yeah. but Dna is the one ducking the science. Wink


Dna is the one ducking the science

Or taking the dog for a walk and having an early night just seen the comment at 11:30 to emulate Grendel.

The fort Denison charts show a clear average increase from 1950.

1980’s Av around 6930 mm
1910’s av around 6970 mm (early peak period)
1920 – 1950 – av around 6940 mm
1950 - 1970 av around 6990 mm
1970 to 1990 av around 7020 mm

Early period peak:
1910 – 7020mm (one only before 1950)
Peak from 1970 – 7040mm x 3

We seem to have gone from averages of 6930 mm to 7020 mm.

You can see that rise against Nana's boots in Tony's Manly pictures if you look closely.



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Reply #11 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:12pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:31am:
The fort Denison charts show a clear average increase from 1950.



Oh. Averages. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Don't you know you look at the top of the range to do sea level rise? Sea levels don't do anything on average.

"Maximum recorded level of 2.400 metres at 1300 hours 25/05/1974
Minimum recorded level of -0.190 metres at 1700 hours 19/08/1982"

http://www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO70000/IDO70000_60370_SLD.shtml#stats

So the highest recorded was in 1974. So much for Rising and Accelerated Rising of sea levels.

In actual fact they do refer to Mean Sea Level Rise.
According to the data the highest mean was April 2006 at 1.148 metres.

Oh dear no sea level rise for 10 years. Just think of all that Arctic melt that hasn't changed sea levels in 10 years.

How sad for you. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:05am:
Even Whatsupwiththat accepts that sea levels are rising.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/06/sea-level-graphs-from-uc-and-some-perspec
...



You did notice they were using the satellite data? And that he didn't explicitly say they were good?

Remember NASA comments on Jason?
The new Jason 3 updated from Jason2 which had an accuracy of 4-5cm

"The primary instrument on Jason-3 is a radar altimeter. The altimeter will measure sea-level variations over the global ocean with very high accuracy (as 1.3 inches or 3.3 centimeters,"

https://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/jason3/

So as Pauline famously said "Please Explain". Please explain how satellites with a "very high accuracy" of 3.3CM (33MM) can detect Sea Level Rise of 3.4MM. That is an order of magnitude above the postulated rise. It is down in the noise, somewhere. Wink
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 2:10pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 1:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 10:31am:
The fort Denison charts show a clear average increase from 1950.



Oh. Averages. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Don't you know you look at the top of the range to do sea level rise? Sea levels don't do anything on average.

"Maximum recorded level of 2.400 metres at 1300 hours 25/05/1974
Minimum recorded level of -0.190 metres at 1700 hours 19/08/1982"

http://www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO70000/IDO70000_60370_SLD.shtml#stats

So the highest recorded was in 1974. So much for Rising and Accelerated Rising of sea levels.

In actual fact they do refer to Mean Sea Level Rise.
According to the data the highest mean was April 2006 at 1.148 metres.

Oh dear no sea level rise for 10 years. Just think of all that Arctic melt that hasn't changed sea levels in 10 years.

How sad for you. Grin Grin Grin Grin


You notice that the overall average was 0.934 but the last 20 readings average is 1.038 ?

Of the last 20 readings only 3 were under 1.  That is 17 above 1 and 3 under 1

Of the first 20 readings only 4 were over 1.    That is 4 above 1 and 16 under 1

So the highest recorded was in 1974. So much for Rising and Accelerated Rising of sea levels.

Congratulations - you managed to measure a few of the largest storms in our history that occurred in 1974. Pointing out the impact of one off weather events is meaningless, yet the averages just keep increasing.

The worst thing you guys can do is to provide data that you don't understand.
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Reply #14 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 2:49pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 2:10pm:
Congratulations - you managed to measure a few of the largest storms in our history that occurred in 1974. Pointing out the impact of one off weather events is meaningless, yet the averages just keep increasing.


So the Collaroy storm and wash out of the beach was not a large one? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wasn't it supposed to the worst in more than 40 years? It should have been up here in lights. But MSL for June 2016 was 1.21 metres,

"Residents of Sydney's northern beaches are cleaning up after the area was hit by the worst storms in more than 40 years on the weekend leaving homes and businesses severely damaged."

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/06/06/northern-beaches-homes-coastline-w...

Dnarever wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 2:10pm:
The worst thing you guys can do is to provide data that you don't understand.


So you have shown.
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