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Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am
 
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.
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Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:12am
 
I'm pretty sure it was more than 10
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:15pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Indeed. The biggest cause was polling and electoral strategy. Trump appealed to one demographic and targeted them at the county level, using the analytic data pioneered by the Obama campaigns.

Hillary went for more diffuse groups and used more traditional methods. Her polling was more expensive, and state-wide. She employed different pollsters in every state, all of them using different methods.

Hillary appealed to women and ethnic minorities - the vote George W Bush successfully appealed to in his campaigns, particularly the huge Hispanic population in the South.

Trump went for less-educated, older men - the sort of audience politicians once appealed to in Australia by schmoozing Alan Jones.

Trump could have very easily gone for the ethnic vote, who originally, were Trump's biggest supporters. This was his main audience for the Apprentice: aspirational immigrants and Christian followers of "prosperity doctrine", a huge group in America that transcends poor whites, black Pentecostals and Hispanic Catholics.

Whether he couldn't help himself or not, Trump went for White older males, declaring his anti-immigration/Mexican stance in his announcement that he intended to run. Trump ran on a negative platform - anti immigration, anti health-care, anti-trade, anti Hillary. He had few policies and no discernible positive pitch. Trump took negative campaigning to unprecedented levels. Just when you thought he couldn't go lower, he did, and this was the message taken up by his followers: Trump just says what he wants. They saw the run for the White House in terms of reality TV, not unlike the Jerry Springer Show.

The Trump strategy was driven by Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica, who predicted the possibility of winning Florida and the mid-western Democrat states. Bannon gave Trump his revolutionary zeal, but admitted that he couldn't rein Trump in or get him to stay on message. All gave up on Trump after Pussygate.

Hillary's side over-ambitiously went for red states like Colorado and New Mexico, thinking Republican conservatives would have to vote against a guy like Trump. Those who may have felt this way, of course, just didn't vote. Trump also won some of  his old Apprentice audience.. A number of Hispanics actually voted for him.

In the end, Hillary got the popular vote, but it was too diffused. She had not campaigned hard enough in the rust belt, thinking her policies would speak for themselves. Instead, Trump spoke for Hillary's policies: dumb cliches that, with the help of his attacks on Hillary herself, worked.

Elections are always a gamble, but this one showed that electorates can vote against their own interests, which is exactly what they did. The biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare, for example, are Trump's own base. The Bible Belt too went against generations of values championing moral leadership: they chose the dirty-talking divorcee and serial cheater.

The media and pollsters were right: Trump could never win the presidency.

Instead, he did.


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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm
 
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
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Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:55pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Indeed. The biggest cause was polling and electoral strategy. Trump appealed to one demographic and targeted them at the county level, using the analytic data pioneered by the Obama campaigns.

Hillary went for more diffuse groups and used more traditional methods. Her polling was more expensive, and state-wide. She employed different pollsters in every state, all of them using different methods.

Hillary appealed to women and ethnic minorities - the vote George W Bush successfully appealed to in his campaigns, particularly the huge Hispanic population in the South.

Trump went for less-educated, older men - the sort of audience politicians once appealed to in Australia by schmoozing Alan Jones.

Trump could have very easily gone for the ethnic vote, who originally, were Trump's biggest supporters. This was his main audience for the Apprentice: aspirational immigrants and Christian followers of "prosperity doctrine", a huge group in America that transcends poor whites, black Pentecostals and Hispanic Catholics.

Whether he couldn't help himself or not, Trump went for White older males, declaring his anti-immigration/Mexican stance in his announcement that he intended to run. Trump ran on a negative platform - anti immigration, anti health-care, anti-trade, anti Hillary. He had few policies and no discernible positive pitch. Trump took negative campaigning to unprecedented levels. Just when you thought he couldn't go lower, he did, and this was the message taken up by his followers: Trump just says what he wants. They saw the run for the White House in terms of reality TV, not unlike the Jerry Springer Show.

The Trump strategy was driven by Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica, who predicted the possibility of winning Florida and the mid-western Democrat states. Bannon gave Trump his revolutionary zeal, but admitted that he couldn't rein Trump in or get him to stay on message. All gave up on Trump after Pussygate.

Hillary's side over-ambitiously went for red states like Colorado and New Mexico, thinking Republican conservatives would have to vote against a guy like Trump. Those who may have felt this way, of course, just didn't vote. Trump also won some of  his old Apprentice audience.. A number of Hispanics actually voted for him.

In the end, Hillary got the popular vote, but it was too diffused. She had not campaigned hard enough in the rust belt, thinking her policies would speak for themselves. Instead, Trump spoke for Hillary's policies: dumb cliches that, with the help of his attacks on Hillary herself, worked.

Elections are always a gamble, but this one showed that electorates can vote against their own interests, which is exactly what they did. The biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare, for example, are Trump's own base. The Bible Belt too went against generations of values championing moral leadership: they chose the dirty-talking divorcee and serial cheater.

The media and pollsters were right: Trump could never win the presidency.

Instead, he did.




America got the president they deserved.

Hopefully the next two candidates will be much closer to the centre, more inclusive with a lot more policy overlap.
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Reply #5 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:57pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Indeed. The biggest cause was polling and electoral strategy. Trump appealed to one demographic and targeted them at the county level, using the analytic data pioneered by the Obama campaigns.

Hillary went for more diffuse groups and used more traditional methods. Her polling was more expensive, and state-wide. She employed different pollsters in every state, all of them using different methods.

Hillary appealed to women and ethnic minorities - the vote George W Bush successfully appealed to in his campaigns, particularly the huge Hispanic population in the South.

Trump went for less-educated, older men - the sort of audience politicians once appealed to in Australia by schmoozing Alan Jones.

Trump could have very easily gone for the ethnic vote, who originally, were Trump's biggest supporters. This was his main audience for the Apprentice: aspirational immigrants and Christian followers of "prosperity doctrine", a huge group in America that transcends poor whites, black Pentecostals and Hispanic Catholics.

Whether he couldn't help himself or not, Trump went for White older males, declaring his anti-immigration/Mexican stance in his announcement that he intended to run. Trump ran on a negative platform - anti immigration, anti health-care, anti-trade, anti Hillary. He had few policies and no discernible positive pitch. Trump took negative campaigning to unprecedented levels. Just when you thought he couldn't go lower, he did, and this was the message taken up by his followers: Trump just says what he wants. They saw the run for the White House in terms of reality TV, not unlike the Jerry Springer Show.

The Trump strategy was driven by Steve Bannon and Cambridge Analytica, who predicted the possibility of winning Florida and the mid-western Democrat states. Bannon gave Trump his revolutionary zeal, but admitted that he couldn't rein Trump in or get him to stay on message. All gave up on Trump after Pussygate.

Hillary's side over-ambitiously went for red states like Colorado and New Mexico, thinking Republican conservatives would have to vote against a guy like Trump. Those who may have felt this way, of course, just didn't vote. Trump also won some of  his old Apprentice audience.. A number of Hispanics actually voted for him.

In the end, Hillary got the popular vote, but it was too diffused. She had not campaigned hard enough in the rust belt, thinking her policies would speak for themselves. Instead, Trump spoke for Hillary's policies: dumb cliches that, with the help of his attacks on Hillary herself, worked.

Elections are always a gamble, but this one showed that electorates can vote against their own interests, which is exactly what they did. The biggest beneficiaries of Obamacare, for example, are Trump's own base. The Bible Belt too went against generations of values championing moral leadership: they chose the dirty-talking divorcee and serial cheater.

The media and pollsters were right: Trump could never win the presidency.

Instead, he did.





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Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...


Hillary is certainly right to blame Comey. Why he announced a new investigation into her emails, only to drop it two days before the election, is anyone's business. Comey gave Trump a gift that was probably more valuable than what Trump bought off Putin.

When Trump met with Comey to test out his loyalty, he thanked Comey for that little investigation. Without a doubt, it was foremost in voters' minds when they voted in states with very narrow margins.

Hillary has every right to cast blame. Comey and the Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.
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Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.
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Reply #8 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:36pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.


And look how much good it did them...

Putin was wiser, he went to the top.  I doubt he actually did anything substantial, he just appeared to do something and that something was sufficient to give Trump a helping hand.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 5:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.


And look how much good it did them...

Putin was wiser, he went to the top.  I doubt he actually did anything substantial, he just appeared to do something and that something was sufficient to give Trump a helping hand.   Roll Eyes


What are you doing here troll.

Piss orf back to your muzzo and pooftah mates

You cant post anything dofferent you turd, it aint right.
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Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.


And look how much good it did them...

Putin was wiser, he went to the top.  I doubt he actually did anything substantial, he just appeared to do something and that something was sufficient to give Trump a helping hand.   Roll Eyes


Serves the Democrats right for dishing up that dried up old witch. There is so much talent in America but being the president is that last thing they'd want.

Anyway, all the shame is on Hillary for not being able to beat Trump to is a buffoon, not just a buffoon but a caricature of a buffoon!

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Reply #11 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:14pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...


This would have to be the biggest Dummy Spit of all time

nearly 12 months later and the DNC and their pack of "rat" followers are still crying.

how embarrassing.

Hillary is in the UK at the moment telling them not to do business with the trump administration.

she is a Traitor.

she is also getting booed in most places she shows her ugly face.
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Reply #12 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:59pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.


Good point. The USSR had the Comintern, you're right.
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Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:03pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
cods wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 1:45pm:
she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro Soviet organisations, infiltrating Govt etc.


And look how much good it did them...

Putin was wiser, he went to the top.  I doubt he actually did anything substantial, he just appeared to do something and that something was sufficient to give Trump a helping hand.   Roll Eyes


This is true too. The Comintern funded grass-roots organisations. Putin went straight to the top.
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Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:06pm:
[quote author=cods link=1508116219/3#3 date=1508125556]she still looks bitter and if she doesnt accept she did have a hand in her downfall then she will never get over it..


I wonder how much they paid her?>.


I will be popping in to have a look...
Russians' actions are unprecedented in US politics.


Are you sure about that? USSR was very active in the USA during the 30s and 40s, creating grass roots pro
Putin was wiser, he went to the top.  I doubt he actually did anything substantial, he just appeared to do something and that something was sufficient to give Trump a helping hand.   Roll Eyes


Serves the Democrats right for dishing up that dried up old witch.



This is not about Democrats or Republicans. You can't blame the Republicans for serving up Trump either. The US has a system of primaries. Voters vote for candidates to stand.

Trump - and Hillary if you will - shoved their way in.
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Reply #15 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:05pm
 
Hilary... self deluded and in denial. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #16 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:24pm
 
Wow. Imagine Trump giving an interview like that.

I could not agree with Hillary more. She should do more interviews, and she will.

America lost a great mind, and for what?

When you're a star, they let you do anything. Grab them by the pussy, whatever you want.

There were good and bad guys on both sides.

I love Puerto Rico. They might have just put the budget out of whack. but they're great people, great people.

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Reply #17 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:26pm
 
Wow-

Hillary reckons we are all in danger because of Trump.
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Reply #18 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
Wow-

Hillary reckons we are all in danger because of Trump.


Trump's promised to nuke North Korea and Iran about half a dozen times.

Is this dangerous?

Nah, just the president of the US of A.
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Reply #19 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:34pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
Wow-

Hillary reckons we are all in danger because of Trump.


Trump's promised to nuke North Korea and Iran about half a dozen times.

Is this dangerous?

Nah, just the president of the US of A.



But when Trump talks about nukes I look like the guy at 2:20 here:

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Reply #20 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:44pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
Wow-

Hillary reckons we are all in danger because of Trump.


Trump's promised to nuke North Korea and Iran about half a dozen times.

Is this dangerous?

Nah, just the president of the US of A.


Well so far softly talk and diplomacy has only made the whole situation worse so Trump is the man for the job when it comes to armchair negotiation Wink
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Reply #21 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:45pm
 
Imagine, an educated, protestant, English-speaking country just voted in someone like Trump - on the sole pretext that his opponent was somehow dodgy because she used a legal private email server as secretary of state.
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I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.


I see. Did you just watch 4 Corners, Homo?

I'm curious.
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Reply #27 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -



Strange. Mr Trump, Breitbart and the Russian propaganda never said that. Not literally, anyway.

Do you think they left the balls and pussy part out?
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Reply #28 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.


I see. Did you just watch 4 Corners, Homo?

I'm curious.


I watched until I saw the s.h.i.t eating expression on the the ABC journalist c@&t's face. I just couldn't handle anymore after I purged my stomach.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.


I see. Did you just watch 4 Corners, Homo?

I'm curious.


I watched until I saw the s.h.i.t eating expression on the the ABC journalist c@&t's face. I just couldn't handle anymore after I purged my stomach.


You saw the ad, eh?

We understand. You want to stay objective, don't you, dear?
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Trump just put out a Tweet daring Hillary to run in 2020 lol
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what is Dangerous

is that Obama has Nuclear Armed both Iran and North Korea

he also let out of jail the worlds worst Terrorists with a Christmas gift of 5 Billion DOLLARS cash, just before he left office.
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Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.


I'm sure she would have been fine
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It was the Russians....  mostly....  and Assange...  and Wikileaks...  and the ex-CIA Director James Comey....  and Donald Trump... oh and "white" women...  and...
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.


So you didn't watch it either?

Imagine, you've been complaining about Hillary for over a year and the opportunity comes up to watch an in-depth interview where she addresses all the things you've been complaining about. What do you do?

You turn the channel over to the Bachelor.

LOCK HER UP.
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Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:25am:
It was the Russians....  mostly....  and Assange...  and Wikileaks...  and the ex-CIA Director James Comey....  and Donald Trump... oh and "white" women...  and...


Good point. Hillary said that more white women voted for Trump than for her.

Imagine, a fat old billionaire talks about grabbing pussies, abandoning health care and cutting taxes for the rich.

And he gets the female vote.

Hillary is right to be aghast. Trump's victory is unprecedented.
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Bloodhound wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:52am:
what is Dangerous

is that Obama has Nuclear Armed both Iran and North Korea

he also let out of jail the worlds worst Terrorists with a Christmas gift of 5 Billion DOLLARS cash, just before he left office.



He personally gave them both nukes?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:15am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.


So you didn't watch it either?

Imagine, you've been complaining about Hillary for over a year and the opportunity comes up to watch an in-depth interview where she addresses all the things you've been complaining about. What do you do?

You turn the channel over to the Bachelor.

LOCK HER UP.


I am in France
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I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..

anyway will make that point at 1pm today...

lets hope she makes a better impression on me   than she did on any of you?>.

I am sure 4 corners paid a heap to her.... huhum   foundation.. Smiley Smiley
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:15am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.


So you didn't watch it either?

Imagine, you've been complaining about Hillary for over a year and the opportunity comes up to watch an in-depth interview where she addresses all the things you've been complaining about. What do you do?

You turn the channel over to the Bachelor.

LOCK HER UP.


I am in France


Viva le France, eh?
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..

anyway will make that point at 1pm today...

lets hope she makes a better impression on me   than she did on any of you?>.

I am sure 4 corners paid a heap to her.... huhum   foundation.. Smiley Smiley

Yes, i bet they paid for her.  No wonder they are an industry in decline.
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Reply #42 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:17am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:15am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:54am:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.

Wow. Just wow.


Well, in 30 seconds how many different reasons could she vomit forth ? 

I bet she did not accept any responsibility for her loss.
What a disaster she would have been.


So you didn't watch it either?

Imagine, you've been complaining about Hillary for over a year and the opportunity comes up to watch an in-depth interview where she addresses all the things you've been complaining about. What do you do?

You turn the channel over to the Bachelor.

LOCK HER UP.


I am in France


Do they have the internet there?

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/four-corners/NC1704H036S00#pageloaded
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.


2 points


1  its always a sign of weakness to be angry.
when i was 12 i thought angry people were really powerful and i thought anger was a sign of strength.
by 17 , i recognised it as a sign of weakness.
you always want to stay in control. its far more impressive

2 .  trump is inept?
thats simply not going to fly.

you have to be pretty darn smart to be a successful property developer over a long period of time.

you have to have a pretty rare set of skills to be a reality TV star over a long period of time

you have to be pretty darn smart to know how to talk to a crowd and read a crowd and get yourself elected president of the USA.

i'd say he must have a bloody high IQ and a bloody high EQ and is a very very rare talent. do you think he just keeps getting lucky? i dont think so .

you may think he's evil or manipulative or whatever.

but when the left start calling him "inept"...i mean, the facts speak for themselves.

i'd actually say Clinton had to be pretty darn inept to lose an election to a guy who should have zero appeal to 90 % of voters.
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2 .  trump is inept?


Inept at being POTUS, yes.

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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.
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Reply #47 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:34am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.




2 points


1  its always a sign of weakness to be angry.
when i was 12 i thought angry people were really powerful and i thought anger was a sign of strength.
by 17 , i recognised it as a sign of weakness.
you always want to stay in control. its far more impressive

2 .  trump is inept?
thats simply not going to fly.

you have to be pretty darn smart to be a successful property developer over a long period of time.

you have to have a pretty rare set of skills to be a reality TV star over a long period of time

you have to be pretty darn smart to know how to talk to a crowd and read a crowd and get yourself elected president of the USA.

i'd say he must have a bloody high IQ and a bloody high EQ and is a very very rare talent. do you think he just keeps getting lucky? i dont think so .

you may think he's evil or manipulative or whatever.

but when the left start calling him "inept"...i mean, the facts speak for themselves.

i'd actually say Clinton had to be pretty darn inept to lose an election to a guy who should have zero appeal to 90 % of voters.


Trump is inept because he can't govern. He can't get legislation passed with a Republican majority. He can't respond diplomatically. He can't justify lies like being wiretapped. He can't restrain himself on Twitter or stay on message. He can't explain his policies - he doesn't understand his proposed policies. Apart from overturning Obama's legacy, he can't form a clear agenda on which to govern. Most importantly, he can't hold back his anger. Without a doubt, he's the most petty, petulant leader in US history.

Hillary held her anger back, Aquascoot. She was calm, rational and precise. Did you watch the interview?
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Hillary was trying not to talk down too often to the interviewer.
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Grendel wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:15am:
Hillary was trying not to talk down too often to the interviewer.


I didn't notice that, Grendel. Which point are you referring to?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:14am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:34am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.




2 points


1  its always a sign of weakness to be angry.
when i was 12 i thought angry people were really powerful and i thought anger was a sign of strength.
by 17 , i recognised it as a sign of weakness.
you always want to stay in control. its far more impressive

2 .  trump is inept?
thats simply not going to fly.

you have to be pretty darn smart to be a successful property developer over a long period of time.

you have to have a pretty rare set of skills to be a reality TV star over a long period of time

you have to be pretty darn smart to know how to talk to a crowd and read a crowd and get yourself elected president of the USA.

i'd say he must have a bloody high IQ and a bloody high EQ and is a very very rare talent. do you think he just keeps getting lucky? i dont think so .

you may think he's evil or manipulative or whatever.

but when the left start calling him "inept"...i mean, the facts speak for themselves.

i'd actually say Clinton had to be pretty darn inept to lose an election to a guy who should have zero appeal to 90 % of voters.


Trump is inept because he can't govern. He can't get legislation passed with a Republican majority. He can't respond diplomatically. He can't justify lies like being wiretapped. He can't restrain himself on Twitter or stay on message. He can't explain his policies - he doesn't understand his proposed policies. Apart from overturning Obama's legacy, he can't form a clear agenda on which to govern. Most importantly, he can't hold back his anger. Without a doubt, he's the most petty, petulant leader in US history.

Hillary held her anger back, Aquascoot. She was calm, rational and precise. Did you watch the interview?


this may be true karnal.
it probably is.

but when the electorate is fat steve and fat janeen and you need to vibe with them, then you need the "emotional intelligence' to "vibe' with them.
you have to meet people where they are at.
the undercurrent of hilary pyschology is probably a very angry woman "acting" calm.....bad strategy....steve and janeen cant relate

the undercurrent of trump psychology is probably a very chilled dude who is used to winning but 'acts' angry and frustrated so he can vibe with his customers/voters...good strategy...steve and janeen can relate
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aquascoot wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:53am:
the undercurrent of trump psychology is probably a very chilled dude who is used to winning but 'acts' angry and frustrated so he can vibe with his customers/voters...good strategy...steve and janeen can relate


A good strategy, eh?

Sacking Comey because he got the sh!ts?

Defending neo-Nazis who drove into protesters?

Coming down on the mayor of Puerto Rico after a hurricane?

Publicly undermining members of his cabinet on fundamental policy areas?

Verbally attacking the leaders of the house of reps and senate?

Yes, I see what you mean, Aquascoot. It's all part of a winning strategy so that Steve and Janeen can relate to Mr Trump.

You know, like reality TV set-ups going viral and getting lots of likes.

When do you think Mr Trump will show his true chilled-dude self? When do you think he'll try to help Steve and Janeen reach higher goals as their leader?
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?

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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.


I do know it takes all kinds pet..

personally I didnt like either of them...completely amazed in a country that large that was the best they could come up with.....

maybe this will make them realise   they have got it WRONG all this time...

I did try to watch her...took about 10 min before I  gave up... blame blame blame.....

I find her phoney always have the CLintons  have never been honest   its always been about them and no one else.. I do believe she worked harder at getting to the top than him though...

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Reply #56 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?




nope where did you get that idea from.?

if those two turkeys run I wont vote at all like last time..

nothing lower than a backstabber imo.. and a double,backstabber  omg.. Angry Angry
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The Russians
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Bernie Sanders
James Comey
DonaldTrump
30 million voters
Brexit
Nigel Farage
Her own staff
Oh yes…..and ’Uncle Tom Cobly and all’


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Reply #58 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:26pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?




nope where did you get that idea from.?

if those two turkeys run I wont vote at all like last time..

nothing lower than a backstabber imo.. and a double,backstabber  omg.. Angry Angry


Ah.

Not voting.

I see.

You'll just pay the $20?

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you forgot all those women who didnt vote for her.. Smiley Smiley

jealous cows!
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Reply #60 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?




nope where did you get that idea from.?

if those two turkeys run I wont vote at all like last time..

nothing lower than a backstabber imo.. and a double,backstabber  omg.. Angry Angry


Ah.

Not voting.

I see.

You'll just pay the $20?




nope I go along for the sausage sandwich  and get my name crossed off....I dont believe in giving them any more information about me than they already have..

Tongue
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Reply #61 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:30pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


I will vote for the labor party over the libs anyday. The libs still have no policies or direction despite being in government for the last 4 years. They can't even agree amongst themselves which is the best way tforward. Why would anyone vote for more of that?

and you won't vote for turnbull because you play the player, not the game. It is irrelevant who the leader is. It is the policies you should be deciding on
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Reply #62 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:34pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?




nope where did you get that idea from.?

if those two turkeys run I wont vote at all like last time..

nothing lower than a backstabber imo.. and a double,backstabber  omg.. Angry Angry


Ah.

Not voting.

I see.

You'll just pay the $20?




nope I go along for the sausage sandwich  and get my name crossed off....I dont believe in giving them any more information about me than they already have..



That's dishonest, dear.

If you get your name crossed off, you're required to vote.
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Reply #63 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


I will vote for the labor party over the libs anyday. The libs still have no policies or direction despite being in government for the last 4 years. They can't even agree amongst themselves which is the best way tforward. Why would anyone vote for more of that?

and you won't vote for turnbull because you play the player, not the game. It is irrelevant who the leader is. It is the policies you should be deciding on




YES THE LIBS

STOPPED THE BOATS


LABOR WILL


RESTART THE BOATS...



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aahhh, slogans

For a minute there I forgot who I was talking to  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #65 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


I will vote for the labor party over the libs anyday. The libs still have no policies or direction despite being in government for the last 4 years. They can't even agree amongst themselves which is the best way tforward. Why would anyone vote for more of that?

and you won't vote for turnbull because you play the player, not the game. It is irrelevant who the leader is. It is the policies you should be deciding on





ahhh then why is it so important in Amerika????>.. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin..

we must be the only western country where it doesnt matter ... Grin Grin
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John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
aahhh, slogans

For a minute there I forgot who I was talking to  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




ohhhhhhhhhhh

and I forgot who doesnt like be reminded...

after 6 long years the boats were still coming...


slogans......hilarious..

its not slogan sweetheart   its a bloody


FACT



ABBOTT STOPPED THE BOATS...

and they will be back the moment

shortarse is elected..
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Reply #67 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


So, you're voting for Labor at the next election?




nope where did you get that idea from.?

if those two turkeys run I wont vote at all like last time..

nothing lower than a backstabber imo.. and a double,backstabber  omg.. Angry Angry


Ah.

Not voting.

I see.

You'll just pay the $20?




nope I go along for the sausage sandwich  and get my name crossed off....I dont believe in giving them any more information about me than they already have..



That's dishonest, dear.

If you get your name crossed off, you're required to vote.


I'll be doing the same as Cods.

1.  front up, get name marked off
2.  take ballot papers
3.  go into cubicle, pretend to mark ballot paper to "vote"
4.  fold ballot papers and put in appropriate box.
5. Go home (I don't eat sausage sandwiches)

Simples.  Tongue
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Quote:
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ABBOTT STOPPED THE BOATS...


How?
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Quote:
FACT



ABBOTT STOPPED THE BOATS...


How?

Made it hard to get into the country. Labor was an easy touch.
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ABBOTT STOPPED THE BOATS...



no he didn't , Rudd implemented the policies that stopped the boats. Abbott did what he does best, lied about it.
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
ABBOTT STOPPED THE BOATS...



no he didn't , Rudd implemented the policies that stopped the boats. Abbott did what he does best, lied about it.
dear o dear. Roll Eyes
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cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.


I did try to watch her...took about 10 min before I  gave up...


Hence why you're talking about boats, dear.

Homo didn't watch it either. In fact, every single Hillaryphobe here avoided the most compelling in-depth interview with the person they've been told to hate.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
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Reply #73 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 11:04am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages.



I don't recall a single person on here claiming to be a supporter of her.

Don't confuse contempt for trump with support for Clinton.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

ooops only if lefties get it wrong...

you will vote for shortarse wont you though... Grin Grin

no way would I vote for Turnbull I have far too much integrity  it isnt for sale..

yep even if my one vote meant shortarse gets across the line... Angry Angry


I will vote for the labor party over the libs anyday. The libs still have no policies or direction despite being in government for the last 4 years. They can't even agree amongst themselves which is the best way tforward. Why would anyone vote for more of that?

and you won't vote for turnbull because you play the player, not the game. It is irrelevant who the leader is. It is the policies you should be deciding on




YES THE LIBS

STOPPED THE BOATS


LABOR WILL


RESTART THE BOATS...



makes sense to some!


Worrying about Labor's boats doesn't make sense to me, cods.

Do you recognise this fellow?

...

He terrorised some innocent people in Sydney.

As asylum seeker, who came here by plane.

That's right cods, he flew here - no boats involved at all.

He was flown here, granted refugee status, made an Australian citizen, and allowed to terrorise innocent people in the Sydney CBD, all thanks to your beloved Liberal Party.

Oh dear.
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Reply #74 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:32pm:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 10:19am:
cods wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 9:28am:
I can see her interview made a huge impression on her supporters    not a word on it  here after 3 pages..

I didnt watch it last night I was hoping to get a run down on how much i missed...and if missing it was a good or bad thing..


You can always download it, dear.

The interview made an impression on me, simply because Hillary confirmed what I'd already assumed.

But she explained it in her own voice - the sheer frustration of trying to get your message through when the Russians have bots posting conspiracy theories on Facebook and Trump's crowds are chanting LOCK HER UP.

How do you address claims like you're part of a paedophile ring that keeps child sex slaves under a pizza parlour?

We know things like this, but what Hillary showed was how aligned the messages were coming from the Trump camp, then popping up on Wikileaks, and then being turned into conspiracy theories and disseminated by the Russians. She never made an accusation, but the inference was that Trump was in on it.

And why wouldn't he be? How could he not be?

Of course Hillary's angry. She should be. This was not a fair election, and the US (and the world) are stuck with a dud leader. At worst, Trump's a danger to the world order. At best, he's completely inept.

I'm not a Hillary fan or aligned with the Democrats - I'm Australian. But Hillary was clearly the best leader. What Hillary - and the entire world - wonder is why Americans didn't see through the lies.

We certainly did.


I did try to watch her...took about 10 min before I  gave up...


Hence why you're talking about boats, dear.

Homo didn't watch it either. In fact, every single Hillaryphobe here avoided the most compelling in-depth interview with the person they've been told to hate.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.

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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?

Only because she won't go away and be resigned to history as a failed candidate.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.


Don't watch it muppet.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?

Only because she won't go away and be resigned to history as a failed candidate.


Oh, is that it? They keep demanding the FBI reopen their investigations so she'll go away.

Do you mean put away?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.


Don't watch it muppet.


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Reply #83 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:24pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?

Only because she won't go away and be resigned to history as a failed candidate.


Oh, is that it? They keep demanding the FBI reopen their investigations so she'll go away.

Do you mean put away?

All she's doing is trying to keep herself part of the public consciousness so she can get another shot. It's personal princess. All she cares about is her legacy.
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Reply #84 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:24pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.


Don't watch it muppet.


Yes, but you must watch and read things about Hillary and Obama, Homo. You have very clear opinions on them.

If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information?
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Reply #85 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:27pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:24pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?

Only because she won't go away and be resigned to history as a failed candidate.


Oh, is that it? They keep demanding the FBI reopen their investigations so she'll go away.

Do you mean put away?

All she's doing is trying to keep herself part of the public consciousness so she can get another shot. It's personal princess. All she cares about is her legacy.


How do you know that, Homo? Hillary made it very clear on 4 Corners that she wouldn't be running again.

Do you have other information? This is a real scoop.
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Reply #86 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.


Don't watch it muppet.


Yes, but you must watch and read things about Hillary and Obama, Homo. You have very clear opinions on them.

If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information?

I do. I'm not interested in Obama because he was a failure of a leader. I get my Hillary stuff from youtube. She's so pitiful I find her amusing.
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Reply #87 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:34pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.
Wow. Just wow.


Someone has said "Crooked Hillary".
Looks he was right.
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Reply #88 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:35pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the most strange US election ever?

I'm curious.

You?


Maybe the timing clashed with The Big Bang Theory.


Don't watch it muppet.


Yes, but you must watch and read things about Hillary and Obama, Homo. You have very clear opinions on them.

If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information?

I do. I'm not interested in Obama because he was a failure of a leader. I get my Hillary stuff from youtube. She's so pitiful I find her amusing.


But you refuse to watch Hillary, Homo. Who do you watch on YouTube?

Hillary impersonators?
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Reply #89 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:36pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 11:10am:
I heard a 30 second grab of it on the wireless this morning, and she blamed about 10 different things on why she lost the election.
Wow. Just wow.


Someone has said "Crooked Hillary".
Looks he was right.


Yes, and that person is now under investigation for colluding with a foreign power to rig a US election.
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Reply #90 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:04pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.



The people will pay for it -
Trump is itching to start a war in this part of the world with North Korea and
also in the Middle East with Iran.
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Reply #91 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:05pm
 
Man - that woman can talk.....
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Reply #92 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:24pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
I see..that's why Hilary lost.
Shocked Shocked Shocked


It's the only reason anyone offered.  Do you think it was her policies?

Ha ha.




She lost because of misogyny -

people wanted a man with a large set of balls in power.


I think there was a definite Obama factor coupled with a gothic image of syphilitic ugliness.



The people will pay for it -
Trump is itching to start a war in this part of the world with North Korea and
also in the Middle East with Iran.


I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.
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Reply #93 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:10pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.



I wish Hillary was asked more questions about
how she would handle North Korea and Iran.

Hillary was just a whinging loser.
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Reply #94 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.



I wish Hillary was asked more questions about
how she would handle North Korea and Iran.

Hillary was just a whinging loser.


Good idea, Bobby. We'll ask Hillary.

No one will listen to the answer, but it saves us asking Mr Trump for an answer, no?
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Reply #95 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:58pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.



I wish Hillary was asked more questions about
how she would handle North Korea and Iran.

Hillary was just a whinging loser.


Good idea, Bobby. We'll ask Hillary.

No one will listen to the answer, but it saves us asking Mr Trump for an answer, no?
Why would we listen to Hillary. She lost.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?


Don't you mean why is Hillary still going on about losing, and blaming everybody but her own pathetic, lying hopelessness?
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Reply #97 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 7:27pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.



I wish Hillary was asked more questions about
how she would handle North Korea and Iran.

Hillary was just a whinging loser.


Good idea, Bobby. We'll ask Hillary.

No one will listen to the answer, but it saves us asking Mr Trump for an answer, no?



I would listen to her answer.
I watched the whole show waiting for anything of importance.
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Fuzzball wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
[Why would I watch an interview with a sore loser?


Who would not want to watch an interview with an inside, personal take on the US election?

I'm curious.

Because it means nothing. Trump won and it's time to move on.


So why are Trump's supporters still going on about Hillary?


Don't you mean why is Hillary still going on about losing, and blaming everybody but her own pathetic, lying hopelessness?


Not at all, Matty, I'm wondering why, a year on, Mr Trump has nothing better to do In the White House than tweet about his pretend enemies.

I'm also wondering why he still gives campaign speeches and sells merchandise out the front, but That's just me.

Maybe Americans wonder who their leader is too.  You?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
I'm reading "The Korean War - Australia in the Giant's Playground" - a good book that covers many aspects including foreign policy decisions/mistakes etc that lead to conflict.  I'm finding myself repeating almost verbatim the words of Dean Acheson in 1950 -

"The Chinese will not intervene since there is nothing in it for them."

Like the bit where Aussie soldiers were gathered with some Turks and they celebrated ANZAC Day together.



I wish Hillary was asked more questions about
how she would handle North Korea and Iran.

Hillary was just a whinging loser.


Good idea, Bobby. We'll ask Hillary.

No one will listen to the answer, but it saves us asking Mr Trump for an answer, no?
Why would we listen to Hillary. She lost.


"We"?
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did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?
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did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Did that happen?
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IF you hadn’t realised that there was something not quite right about Hillary Clinton, then her Four Corners interview on Monday night would have set you straight.

She’s loopy. The former First Lady may as well have been wearing a tinfoil hat for all the conspiracy theories and excuses she trotted out for why she was denied her entitlement, the American presidency. The interview was a fascinating master class in delusion.

She’s not the first politician to lose an election. Nor is she the first to be consumed in defeat by a lust for vengeance and vindication.

But it’s been almost year since Donald Trump beat her fair and square, and, if anything, her analysis of “what happened” has become ever more unhinged from the facts.

Under Sarah Ferguson’s disarmingly chummy questioning, Hillary was looser than we have seen in other interviews. Yet, in the entire 45 minutes, there was not a moment of insight or self-awareness. She talked freely about her hurt feelings, but never acknowledged that she just might have been a terrible candidate. After all, how else could she have been beaten by the oh-so deplorable Donald Trump?

In order to explain the loss without shouldering any blame, she has had to invent the most elaborate excuses. She blames Putin, the Russians, Rupert Murdoch, Rudy Giuliani, Nigel Farage, Fox News, Facebook, you name it.

She was “stalked” by Trump. She was “shivved” by former FBI director James Comey.

She also was betrayed by women, who should have voted for her in feminine solidarity, because, hey, it was her turn.

And she reserved special venom for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who she claimed is an agent of the Russians, “who does the bidding of a dictator”.

“’They wanted to hurt me and help Trump,” she told Four Corners.

Cue Twilight Zone music.

The interview was conducted in New York on October 4, conveniently one day before the New York Times published its bombshell story about the sexual atrocities of Harvey Weinstein, Hillary’s great friend and financial backer.

So she was spared uncomfortable questions about her benign toleration of sexual predators, not just Weinstein, but her husband Bill (a “hard dog to keep on the porch”), and Anthony Weiner, the jailed sext-pervert husband of her long time aide, sad-faced Huma Abadein.
Since Huma was standing behind her boss during the Four Corners interview, such a line of questioning would have been awkward, especially since Hillary and Bill had introduced Huma to the much older Weiner in the first place, with Bill even creepily officiating at the wedding.

The Four Corners interview also took place before Hillary had another of her mysterious falls. She is currently doing interviews in a moon boot after reportedly breaking a toe when she slipped while “running down the stairs carrying a cup of coffee”, a most unlikely vision.

And in another example of what a tangled web she weaves with her creative renditions of the truth, Hillary concocted for Four Corners a far-fetched excuse for why she didn’t stand up for herself like a strong feminist when Trump “stalked” and “loomed” over her during one of the election debates last year. After describing this outrage in her book, she has been embarrassed by criticism that she should have called Trump out.

So she claimed that, far from being caught off guard by Trump, “We practised him stalking me, which we thought he would do, and indeed he did,” she said.

Why would she say this? Because she couldn’t bear any criticism of her supposed passivity.

But as is obvious from the video, Trump never stalked her or loomed over her. She walked in front of him throughout the debate, provocatively showing disrespect for his territory.

She was the aggressor. She invaded his space, and, somehow, because he didn’t react, or scurry away, she’s the victim.

This is the essence of her destructive brand of feminism. When she fails, she casts herself as a victim of male badness, and then tries to implicate every other woman in her pathology.
Assange, who is still holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, didn't even wait till Four Corners had finished before tweeting her a taste of her own medicine.

“There’s something wrong with Hillary Clinton.

“It is not just her constant lying. It is not just that she throws off menacing glares and seethes thwarted entitlement. Watch closely. Something much darker rides along with it. A cold creepiness rarely seen.”

He has a point.

Did she honestly expect a garlanded palanquin to whisk her effortlessly into the most powerful office in the planet? Did she think insulting half the electorate by branding them “deplorable” was a vote winner? Does she regard it as good politics to dismiss everyone who doesn’t agree with you as “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, you name it”.

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Does she believe identity politics is a recipe for harmony? Does she still think it was clever to plot to winnow down the Republican candidates until Trump was the last man standing?

The problem is not that her campaign was thwarted by dirty tricks. It was that her campaign was ill-judged from the start.

Winning office, and keeping it, is a prerequisite for politics or any worthwhile field of human endeavour. Competition, by its very natu
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Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record.

The Clinton Foundation is legit.
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/miranda-devine-hillary-clintons-depl...


IF you hadn’t realised that there was something not quite right about Hillary Clinton, then her Four Corners interview on Monday night would have set you straight.

She’s loopy. The former First Lady may as well have been wearing a tinfoil hat for all the conspiracy theories and excuses she trotted out for why she was denied her entitlement, the American presidency. The interview was a fascinating master class in delusion.

She’s not the first politician to lose an election. Nor is she the first to be consumed in defeat by a lust for vengeance and vindication.

But it’s been almost year since Donald Trump beat her fair and square, and, if anything, her analysis of “what happened” has become ever more unhinged from the facts.

Under Sarah Ferguson’s disarmingly chummy questioning, Hillary was looser than we have seen in other interviews. Yet, in the entire 45 minutes, there was not a moment of insight or self-awareness. She talked freely about her hurt feelings, but never acknowledged that she just might have been a terrible candidate. After all, how else could she have been beaten by the oh-so deplorable Donald Trump?

In order to explain the loss without shouldering any blame, she has had to invent the most elaborate excuses. She blames Putin, the Russians, Rupert Murdoch, Rudy Giuliani, Nigel Farage, Fox News, Facebook, you name it.

She was “stalked” by Trump. She was “shivved” by former FBI director James Comey.

She also was betrayed by women, who should have voted for her in feminine solidarity, because, hey, it was her turn.

And she reserved special venom for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who she claimed is an agent of the Russians, “who does the bidding of a dictator”.

“’They wanted to hurt me and help Trump,” she told Four Corners.

Cue Twilight Zone music.

The interview was conducted in New York on October 4, conveniently one day before the New York Times published its bombshell story about the sexual atrocities of Harvey Weinstein, Hillary’s great friend and financial backer.

So she was spared uncomfortable questions about her benign toleration of sexual predators, not just Weinstein, but her husband Bill (a “hard dog to keep on the porch”), and Anthony Weiner, the jailed sext-pervert husband of her long time aide, sad-faced Huma Abadein.
Since Huma was standing behind her boss during the Four Corners interview, such a line of questioning would have been awkward, especially since Hillary and Bill had introduced Huma to the much older Weiner in the first place, with Bill even creepily officiating at the wedding.

The Four Corners interview also took place before Hillary had another of her mysterious falls. She is currently doing interviews in a moon boot after reportedly breaking a toe when she slipped while “running down the stairs carrying a cup of coffee”, a most unlikely vision.

And in another example of what a tangled web she weaves with her creative renditions of the truth, Hillary concocted for Four Corners a far-fetched excuse for why she didn’t stand up for herself like a strong feminist when Trump “stalked” and “loomed” over her during one of the election debates last year. After describing this outrage in her book, she has been embarrassed by criticism that she should have called Trump out.

So she claimed that, far from being caught off guard by Trump, “We practised him stalking me, which we thought he would do, and indeed he did,” she said.

Why would she say this? Because she couldn’t bear any criticism of her supposed passivity.

But as is obvious from the video, Trump never stalked her or loomed over her. She walked in front of him throughout the debate, provocatively showing disrespect for his territory.

She was the aggressor. She invaded his space, and, somehow, because he didn’t react, or scurry away, she’s the victim.

This is the essence of her destructive brand of feminism. When she fails, she casts herself as a victim of male badness, and then tries to implicate every other woman in her pathology.
Assange, who is still holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, didn't even wait till Four Corners had finished before tweeting her a taste of her own medicine.

“There’s something wrong with Hillary Clinton.

“It is not just her constant lying. It is not just that she throws off menacing glares and seethes thwarted entitlement. Watch closely. Something much darker rides along with it. A cold creepiness rarely seen.”

He has a point.

Did she honestly expect a garlanded palanquin to whisk her effortlessly into the most powerful office in the planet? Did she think insulting half the electorate by branding them “deplorable” was a vote winner? Does she regard it as good politics to dismiss everyone who doesn’t agree with you as “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, you name it”


Miranda Divine's just reflexively reacting to Murdoch's foes. Sarah Ferguson's questions were not chummy, they never are. Clinton relished answering tough questions. She knew what was coming, she was on guard, Ferguson asked her a couple of rapport-building questions to encourage her to open up.

The conspiracy theories were bizarre. Hillary described Pizzagate, and just listening to it sounded like someone was making it up.
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Reply #105 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:19am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record. The Clinton Foundation is legit.


She forgot that the presidential election was over and continued telling lies.
Hillary is a frigid menopausal bitch.
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Reply #106 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:23am
 
capitosinora wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:19am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record. The Clinton Foundation is legit.


She forgot that the presidential election was over and continued telling lies.
Hillary is a frigid menopausal bitch.


Menopausal at 69?

Hmm   Undecided
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Reply #107 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:27am
 
capitosinora wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:19am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record. The Clinton Foundation is legit.


She forgot that the presidential election was over and continued telling lies.
Hillary is a frigid menopausal bitch.


I see what you mean. That's deep, Capitosinora.
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IF you hadn’t realised that there was something not quite right about Hillary Clinton, then her Four Corners interview on Monday night would have set you straight.

She’s loopy. The former First Lady may as well have been wearing a tinfoil hat for all the conspiracy theories and excuses she trotted out for why she was denied her entitlement, the American presidency. The interview was a fascinating master class in delusion.

She’s not the first politician to lose an election. Nor is she the first to be consumed in defeat by a lust for vengeance and vindication.

But it’s been almost year since Donald Trump beat her fair and square, and, if anything, her analysis of “what happened” has become ever more unhinged from the facts.

Under Sarah Ferguson’s disarmingly chummy questioning, Hillary was looser than we have seen in other interviews. Yet, in the entire 45 minutes, there was not a moment of insight or self-awareness. She talked freely about her hurt feelings, but never acknowledged that she just might have been a terrible candidate. After all, how else could she have been beaten by the oh-so deplorable Donald Trump?

In order to explain the loss without shouldering any blame, she has had to invent the most elaborate excuses. She blames Putin, the Russians, Rupert Murdoch, Rudy Giuliani, Nigel Farage, Fox News, Facebook, you name it.

She was “stalked” by Trump. She was “shivved” by former FBI director James Comey.

She also was betrayed by women, who should have voted for her in feminine solidarity, because, hey, it was her turn.

And she reserved special venom for Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who she claimed is an agent of the Russians, “who does the bidding of a dictator”.

“’They wanted to hurt me and help Trump,” she told Four Corners.

Cue Twilight Zone music.

The interview was conducted in New York on October 4, conveniently one day before the New York Times published its bombshell story about the sexual atrocities of Harvey Weinstein, Hillary’s great friend and financial backer.

So she was spared uncomfortable questions about her benign toleration of sexual predators, not just Weinstein, but her husband Bill (a “hard dog to keep on the porch”), and Anthony Weiner, the jailed sext-pervert husband of her long time aide, sad-faced Huma Abadein.
Since Huma was standing behind her boss during the Four Corners interview, such a line of questioning would have been awkward, especially since Hillary and Bill had introduced Huma to the much older Weiner in the first place, with Bill even creepily officiating at the wedding.

The Four Corners interview also took place before Hillary had another of her mysterious falls. She is currently doing interviews in a moon boot after reportedly breaking a toe when she slipped while “running down the stairs carrying a cup of coffee”, a most unlikely vision.

And in another example of what a tangled web she weaves with her creative renditions of the truth, Hillary concocted for Four Corners a far-fetched excuse for why she didn’t stand up for herself like a strong feminist when Trump “stalked” and “loomed” over her during one of the election debates last year. After describing this outrage in her book, she has been embarrassed by criticism that she should have called Trump out.

So she claimed that, far from being caught off guard by Trump, “We practised him stalking me, which we thought he would do, and indeed he did,” she said.

Why would she say this? Because she couldn’t bear any criticism of her supposed passivity.

But as is obvious from the video, Trump never stalked her or loomed over her. She walked in front of him throughout the debate, provocatively showing disrespect for his territory.

She was the aggressor. She invaded his space, and, somehow, because he didn’t react, or scurry away, she’s the victim.

This is the essence of her destructive brand of feminism. When she fails, she casts herself as a victim of male badness, and then tries to implicate every other woman in her pathology.
Assange, who is still holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, didn't even wait till Four Corners had finished before tweeting her a taste of her own medicine.

“There’s something wrong with Hillary Clinton.

“It is not just her constant lying. It is not just that she throws off menacing glares and seethes thwarted entitlement. Watch closely. Something much darker rides along with it. A cold creepiness rarely seen.”

He has a point.

Did she honestly expect a garlanded palanquin to whisk her effortlessly into the most powerful office in the planet? Did she think insulting half the electorate by branding them “deplorable” was a vote winner? Does she regard it as good politics to dismiss everyone who doesn’t agree with you as “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, you name it”.

Does she believe identity politics is a recipe for harmony? Does she still think it was clever to plot to winnow down the Republican candidates until Trump was the last man standing?

The problem is not that her campaign was thwarted by dirty tricks. It was that her campaign was ill-judged from the start.

Winning office, and keeping it, is a prerequisite for politics or any worthwh


great report - summed her up nicely - Tinfoil Crazy
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Did you watch the interview, Matty?
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:24am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Did that happen?


not only did that happen - the FBI covered the Clintons/Obam's tracks for them

people like Comey and his buddy Mueller

FBI Hid Evidence Tying The Clintons To A Russian Bribery Scheme

Before the Obama administration approved a highly controversial deal in 2010 giving Russia control of approximately 20% of U.S. uranium, the FBI had collected a significant amount of evidence which showed that Russian officials were engaged in a massive bribery scheme aimed at growing their atomic energy business inside the United States.
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Link?
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Quote:
Tinfoil Crazy


Tinfoil enough to have had her emails hacked by a foreign power, who released them to the public. Tinfoil enough for the Russians to employ a team tasked with creating propaganda out of those emails to disseminate through social media. Tinfoil enough for the Russians to use bots tasked with targeting the accounts of voters in marginal seats. Tinfoil enough to see a connection between Trump's speeches and the Wikipedia leaks, which happened in tandem - in some cases, Trump actually predicted certain leaks.

Tinfoil enough to wonder whether there was collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign, which based on Hillary's evidence, appears almost certain.

And yes, tinfoil enough to see Russian intervention in foreign elections as a major problem for democracy throughout the world.

Tinfoil crazy, no?
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Reply #113 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 10:04am
 
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:59am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:24am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Did that happen?


not only did that happen - the FBI covered the Clintons/Obam's tracks for them

people like Comey and his buddy Mueller

FBI Hid Evidence Tying The Clintons To A Russian Bribery Scheme

Before the Obama administration approved a highly controversial deal in 2010 giving Russia control of approximately 20% of U.S. uranium, the FBI had collected a significant amount of evidence which showed that Russian officials were engaged in a massive bribery scheme aimed at growing their atomic energy business inside the United States.


This has all been dealt with, Matty. It's fake.

You probably missed the threads here. You're a new member.
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why are you stalking me creep

and don't call me Matty

it seems you are as tinfoil crazy as Hillary
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Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 10:07am:
why are you stalking me creep

and don't call me Matty

it seems you are as tinfoil crazy as Hillary


I most certainly am. Did you watch the interview?
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Imagine Mr Trump sitting down for a serious televised interview. This wouldn't happen - it couldn't happen.

Trump's sole TV spots are the breezy Fox and Friends, his buddy Sean Hannity, and his press secretary's father, Mike Huckabee.

The rest of the media can get fcked.
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As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.

No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.

In denial that she more than anyone or anything was responsible for Trump winning the election.

She is thoroughly despised.
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show to justify why they refuse to watch it.

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Hmm, and people wonder why you come across as being so ignorant.

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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Hmm, and people wonder why you come across as being so ignorant.



And people never have to wonder why you come across as such an arrogant arze ....... do they?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.


You watched it?

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I saw enough in the snippets for mine.

I've already told you I didn't you tw/at.
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?


Of course.
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:08pm:
I saw enough in the snippets for mine.

I've already told you I didn't you tw/at.


Well, if you didn't watch it you can't say that she was "just making an excuse fest of the interview" and expect to be taken seriously.

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I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?

You dislike Trump.

I don't particularly like him but

I dislike Hilary & everything she stands for.

Trump is there because Hilary helped put him there.

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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?

You dislike Trump.

I don't particularly like him but

I dislike Hilary & everything she stands for.

Trump is there because Hilary helped put him there.



How could you know what Hillary stands for? You've just said you avoid watching and listening to her.
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I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?


You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous?
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?

You dislike Trump.

I don't particularly like him but

I dislike Hilary & everything she stands for.

Trump is there because Hilary helped put him there.



How could you know what Hillary stands for? You've just said you avoid watching and listening to her.


Snippets.

It's all in the snippets.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Whether you "like" Hillary or not, hearing her story and watching her body language was fascinating. So too was the Frost-Nixon interview. So was a recent George W Bush interview I saw where he avoided all mention of politics or policy.

You don't have to "like" politicians to hear out their policies. Hillary's point was that during the last election any discussion of policies was howled down.

This was a mix of Trump's campaigning, the propaganda and ridiculous conspiracy theories on social media, and without a doubt, misogyny.

Hillary acknowledged that she had a problem appearing "authentic" in front of a podium, but this has never been her strong point. Hillary is a policy wonk, a girly swot.

When the stakes are this high - and when the alternative is Donald Trump - you'd think voters would  listen a bit more carefully.

Hillary was genuinely perplexed that a majority of white women (53%) voted for Trump. How can you explain this?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?


You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous?


What facts have you confronted me with regarding Hilary Clinton?

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Reply #136 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:38pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?


You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous?


What facts have you confronted me with regarding Hilary Clinton?



Here's the latest:

"You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous".
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Reply #137 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:39pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:19pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?

You dislike Trump.

I don't particularly like him but

I dislike Hilary & everything she stands for.

Trump is there because Hilary helped put him there.



How could you know what Hillary stands for? You've just said you avoid watching and listening to her.


I have watched & listened to her in the past ... thus drawing my conclusion to not watch her in the future.

Isn't that how people make decisions about what they like or dislike?

You know previous experience? Roll Eyes

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Reply #138 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:40pm
 
I'll try watch this tonight. How bad was it?
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Reply #139 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?


You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous?


What facts have you confronted me with regarding Hilary Clinton?



Here's the latest:

"You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous".


Bs you couldn't make anyone look ridiculous ... & your opinion isn't a fact.
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Reply #140 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.
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Reply #141 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?
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Reply #142 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:47pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?




You could have, but it still would have meant zero relevance when talking about this interview.
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Reply #143 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:48pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
I don't take you seriously in everything ... why would that be?


You hate being confronted with facts that make your ideological arguments look ridiculous?


What facts have you confronted me with regarding Hilary Clinton?



I like the fact that the only thing the Trump campaign had on Hillary was her email server when she was secretary of state. As she said, this wasn't illegal and she was cleared by two FBI investigations.

And that was it. All the talk of corruption and lying and cheating was just talk. The email hack didn't even come up with anything on Hillary. The Russians had to make up stories based on the emails and spread them on social media.

That was the fact I was confronted with by watching Hillary's own take. It's one I always wondered about during the election: who would actually care about her email server?
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Reply #144 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:53pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?



That's an opinion of Hillary, not the interview in question.

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Reply #145 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:58pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?


You could have, but it still would have meant zero relevance when talking about this interview.


He could have, but we're talking about someone who says this:

Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.

No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Can you really imagine Gonads hearing out or weighing up the policies of either candidate? Gonads doesn't even know what Hillary's supposed to have lied about. He's the epitome of the problem with democracy Hillary's talking about.

He's told who to vote for and that's it. He tunes out after that.
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Reply #146 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
That's an opinion of Hillary


You think?
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Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.
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Reply #148 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:07pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 10:02am:
Quote:
Tinfoil Crazy


Tinfoil enough to have had her emails hacked by a foreign power, who released them to the public. Tinfoil enough for the Russians to employ a team tasked with creating propaganda out of those emails to disseminate through social media. Tinfoil enough for the Russians to use bots tasked with targeting the accounts of voters in marginal seats. Tinfoil enough to see a connection between Trump's speeches and the Wikipedia leaks, which happened in tandem - in some cases, Trump actually predicted certain leaks.

Tinfoil enough to wonder whether there was collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign, which based on Hillary's evidence, appears almost certain.

And yes, tinfoil enough to see Russian intervention in foreign elections as a major problem for democracy throughout the world.

Tinfoil crazy, no?


umm no

all false as proven over and over and over again and again and again

why do you keep pushing the lie?
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Reply #149 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:10pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 10:04am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:59am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:24am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Did that happen?


not only did that happen - the FBI covered the Clintons/Obam's tracks for them

people like Comey and his buddy Mueller

FBI Hid Evidence Tying The Clintons To A Russian Bribery Scheme

Before the Obama administration approved a highly controversial deal in 2010 giving Russia control of approximately 20% of U.S. uranium, the FBI had collected a significant amount of evidence which showed that Russian officials were engaged in a massive bribery scheme aimed at growing their atomic energy business inside the United States.


This has all been dealt with, Matty. It's fake.

You probably missed the threads here. You're a new member.


another lie

Sean Hannity just blew the lid clean off the case and exposed the criminals

youtube

Sean Hannity 10/17/17 - Hannity Fox News Today October 17, 2017 TRUMP, NFL PROTESTS, JOHN MCCAIN

can someone post that up for me?
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Reply #150 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:10pm
 
No, Matty, proven true by the NSA, CIA and FBI.

You're right in a way though. Mr Putin said it's false.

An easy mistake to make.
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Reply #151 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:12pm
 
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:10pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 10:04am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:59am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:24am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Did that happen?


not only did that happen - the FBI covered the Clintons/Obam's tracks for them

people like Comey and his buddy Mueller

FBI Hid Evidence Tying The Clintons To A Russian Bribery Scheme

Before the Obama administration approved a highly controversial deal in 2010 giving Russia control of approximately 20% of U.S. uranium, the FBI had collected a significant amount of evidence which showed that Russian officials were engaged in a massive bribery scheme aimed at growing their atomic energy business inside the United States.


This has all been dealt with, Matty. It's fake.

You probably missed the threads here. You're a new member.


another lie

Sean Hannity just blew the lid clean off the case and exposed the criminals

youtube

Sean Hannity 10/17/17 - Hannity Fox News Today October 17, 2017 TRUMP, NFL PROTESTS, JOHN MCCAIN

can someone post that up for me?


I'd like to. If you tell me what it is, I can try.

Why don't you just get Jeez or Justsayno to do it?
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Reply #152 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
where'd you go?

didn't think you'd have the guts to post the truth
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Reply #153 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:07pm
 
Don't have the guts to open an old sock to post a link?

Gawd...
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Reply #154 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:37am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:27am:
capitosinora wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:19am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record. The Clinton Foundation is legit.


She forgot that the presidential election was over and continued telling lies.
Hillary is a frigid menopausal bitch.


I see what you mean. That's deep, Capitosinora.


No that's deep state.
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Reply #155 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:53am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?


You could have, but it still would have meant zero relevance when talking about this interview.


He could have, but we're talking about someone who says this:

Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.

No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Can you really imagine Gonads hearing out or weighing up the policies of either candidate? Gonads doesn't even know what Hillary's supposed to have lied about. He's the epitome of the problem with democracy Hillary's talking about.

He's told who to vote for and that's it. He tunes out after that.


How's Benghazi for a start?

The second highlight is just BS assumption on your part.


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Reply #156 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.
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Reply #157 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:20am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:53am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?


You could have, but it still would have meant zero relevance when talking about this interview.


He could have, but we're talking about someone who says this:

Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.

No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Can you really imagine Gonads hearing out or weighing up the policies of either candidate? Gonads doesn't even know what Hillary's supposed to have lied about. He's the epitome of the problem with democracy Hillary's talking about.

He's told who to vote for and that's it. He tunes out after that.


How's Benghazi for a start?

The second highlight is just BS assumption on your part.




Please explain Benghazi to me, Gonads.

Cheers.
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Reply #158 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:22am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


That's just it - she's no lefty. The thing Fox News and the deep-pocketed Republican backers have against Hillary is - wait for it - she wears pants suits.
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Reply #159 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:24am
 
capitosinora wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:37am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:27am:
capitosinora wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:19am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 4:06am:
did they ask Hillary about the Russia One Deal whereby nearly 150 Million flooded into the Clinton foundation before the deal was secured and approved by Obama?


Of course. She said it was a total lie. She also said the Clinton Foundation is ranked in the most transparent charitable foundations in the US. It's audits and taxes are public. There's no way she can lie about this, it"s all on the public record. The Clinton Foundation is legit.


She forgot that the presidential election was over and continued telling lies.
Hillary is a frigid menopausal bitch.


I see what you mean. That's deep, Capitosinora.


No that's deep state.


An obedient, brainwashed drone, repeating the words he's been told.
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Reply #160 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:44am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:22am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


That's just it - she's no lefty. The thing Fox News and the deep-pocketed Republican backers have against Hillary is - wait for it - she wears pants suits.


Grin Grin  Roll Eyes
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Reply #161 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:59am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:20am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:53am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 1:21pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.


Oh, I know. It's interesting how many people have come to a thread on a TV show [highlight]to justify why they refuse to watch it. [/highlight]

I'm hardly a big fan of Mr Trump, but I can't imagine missing him being interviewed by Sarah Ferguson. This would be the show of the year.


Why not? Does the fact that I chose not to watch an interview that I already knew would be just an excuse fest, disqualify me from having an opinion on it & stating such?




Not really, it just means that if anyone asks you for evidence backing up your opinion, you're stuffed.


Oh what evidence is required for an opinion?

I was not wrong in Hilary just making an excuse fest of the interview.

Did you watch it all?




I didn't watch it, but I'm accouting for that by not actually having an opinion on the interview. I'm only having opinions on those who have opinions without evidence.


Typical but

What evidence?



Well the evidence that you've stated that you formed an opinion without actually watching the interview.


Thus I've formed an opinion on that right now.


So I couldn't have formed an opinion of Hilary Clinton from previous interviews or video clips in the past?

Naff off.

What is this a new tag team?


You could have, but it still would have meant zero relevance when talking about this interview.


He could have, but we're talking about someone who says this:

Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
As soon as I saw the shorts for this weeks episode I decided I wasn't going to watch the program.

No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Can you really imagine Gonads hearing out or weighing up the policies of either candidate? Gonads doesn't even know what Hillary's supposed to have lied about. He's the epitome of the problem with democracy Hillary's talking about.

He's told who to vote for and that's it. He tunes out after that.


How's Benghazi for a start?

The second highlight is just BS assumption on your part.




Please explain Benghazi to me, Gonads.

Cheers.


http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/28/5-big-takeaways-from-the-house-benghazi-repo...
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Reply #162 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:07am
 
No, please explain it to me. Posting a link makes me think you have no knowledge of this.
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Reply #163 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:27am
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


from what I've seen over the past few days is that Kamel just makes stuff up willy nilly

stalking board members and calling them names

kamel needs to get some help I think
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Reply #164 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:54am
 
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:27am:
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


from what I've seen over the past few days is that Kamel just makes stuff up willy nilly

stalking board members and calling them names

kamel needs to get some help I think


You're onto me, Matty.

Cunning, no?
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Reply #165 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:25pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:07am:
No, please explain it to me. Posting a link makes me think you have no knowledge of this.


You can think what you like ..... just as I can make an opinion as I see fit.
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Reply #167 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:27pm
 
Actually all my opinions are based on this ....



Grin
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Reply #168 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:45pm
 
Bloodhound wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 7:10pm:
another lie

Sean Hannity just blew the lid clean off the case and exposed the criminals

youtube

Sean Hannity 10/17/17 - Hannity Fox News Today October 17, 2017 TRUMP, NFL PROTESTS, JOHN MCCAIN

can someone post that up for me?


Isn't he that right wing propagandist from Fake Fox News  ?

Nobody believes him.
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Reply #169 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm
 
He's as credible as you ... and you're  nobody.  Wink
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Reply #170 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


The Funny thing is that Julia was probably our best PM of the last 20 years or so.
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Reply #171 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
He's as credible as you ... and you're  nobody.  Wink


That is about right he has the credibility of nobody.
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Reply #172 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 8:07pm
 
Like you.
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Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


The Funny thing is that Julia was probably our best PM of the last 20 years or so.


Uncanny.

DITCH THE WITCH.
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Reply #174 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 9:29pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 9:07am:
No, please explain it to me. Posting a link makes me think you have no knowledge of this.


You can think what you like ..... just as I can make an opinion as I see fit.


Then feel free to express an opinion, Gonads. We all welcome it.
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Reply #175 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 10:45pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:58am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm:
No way was I going to spend 50 minutes listening to that lying evil old crone.


Sarah Ferguson pointed out the similarities between the misogyny directed at both Hillary and Julia Gillard.

Gonads confirms this. An evil old crone is a witch. Gillard was called JuLiar.

DITCH THE WITCH indeed.


You're full of it Karamel

I never held that opinion of Julia Gillard.

All you confirm is you are still guessing.

I don't have to like Hilary Clinton because she fits your description of a Yank lefty.

But she's no lefty.


The Funny thing is that Julia was probably our best PM of the last 20 years or so.


thanks for that, I need a laugh today Grin
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Reply #176 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 10:55pm
 
You had a good chuckle a few years back, Matty. Remember? You don't laugh much these days.

Now why is that?
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Reply #177 - Oct 20th, 2017 at 11:22pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
You had a good chuckle a few years back, Matty. Remember? You don't laugh much these days.

Now why is that?


here you go pet

I think you may need this, it may help with the voices in your head Wink

https://www.beyondblue.org.au/the-facts/what-is-mental-health?&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvab...
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