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Lord Herbert

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I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area
Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:37pm

Why do they do it?

40 lives lost in the California bushfires.

Helpful Hint:- There are no bushfires where there are no trees and ground fuel.

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Needless to say those 40 deaths were totally, 100% their own fault. If you're going to live in the middle of forested areas then it's only a matter of time before Darwin's Natural Selection is going to remove you from the gene pool.

They didn't even prepare for themselves fire-proof under-ground bunkers with oxygen cylinders. Careful to wear their seat-belts when driving their cars, but no precautions against a fire raging through their place.

It's like the nutters who live in America's Tornado Alley who make no preparations for the next wind-storm that's going to come raging at high velocity through their place.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72247 Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:28pm Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:37pm: Needless to say those 40 deaths were totally, 100% their own fault that's like saying those that live in the city have no one to blame for being mugged or run over. It's 100% their fault.
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Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:14pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

Needless to say those 40 deaths were totally, 100% their own fault

that's like saying those that live in the city have no one to blame for being mugged or run over. It's 100% their fault. Cheesy

Living in the city you take precautions against being mugged and stepping off the curbs/kerbs.

With these woodlands people they don't prepare a fire-break or a bunker.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131540 Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:37pm: Why do they do it? "It'll never happen to me".
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47436 At my desk.	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm A lot of the houses lost in the California fire would not be an obvious bushfire risk. They weren't rural houses among the trees. They were in the middle of housing developments. Probably no decent trees around. It was the suburb that burnt, not the bush.
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Bloodhound Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 242 Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:22pm there's nothing wrong with living in the bush but unfortunately, most people are mind numbingly ignorant of the dangers, or worse, ignore them
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Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:40pm

I see the idiots all over the place.

We can solve part of the problem if insurance companies refused coverage for fire insurance on these dangerous properties.

I had a neighbour that lived with the forest right over the house, she said if a fire comes she will grab the photos and insurance policy and take off.

Not very fair on the firefighters or other insurance policy holders

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:05pm greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 2:37pm: Why do they do it? "It'll never happen to me". I think you might be right, which just confirms that these people live in a state of unbelievably stupid denial.
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Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:08pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

A lot of the houses lost in the California fire would not be an obvious bushfire risk. They weren't rural houses among the trees. They were in the middle of housing developments. Probably no decent trees around. It was the suburb that burnt, not the bush.

Very odd.

I think the last urban holocaust was the devastation that followed the Great Kanto Earthquake in Japan in 1923, and before that the Mexico City disaster, and then the 1666 conflagration in London when a cow kicked over an oil lamp.

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Reply #9 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:13pm

Bloodhound wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

there's nothing wrong with living in the bush

but unfortunately, most people are mind numbingly ignorant of the dangers, or worse, ignore them

Mind-numbing is right.

I used to visit my brother when he was living down in Sanctuary Point south of Nowra, and part of the way from Nowra to the 'Point' was heavily forested, and as you went along in a car or a bus you could see these houses nestled in amongst the trees.

Then one day I went through those woods and everything was black and smoking and burned to the ground. I didn't hear of any fatalities, but I think that was more luck on their part than good judgment.

It's the same with people fishing off the rocks here in Sydney without a life-jacket ...

Suicidal.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20230 Gordon Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm Fire bunkers should be mandatory.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95423 Melbourne Gender:	Re: I'll never understand buying into a bushfire area Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:22pm Gordon wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm: Fire bunkers should be mandatory. The fire codes for the buildings must have been nonsense. How could so many building catch fire with no trees around?
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Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:44pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

A lot of the houses lost in the California fire would not be an obvious bushfire risk. They weren't rural houses among the trees. They were in the middle of housing developments. Probably no decent trees around. It was the suburb that burnt, not the bush.

Very odd.

I think the last urban holocaust was the devastation that followed the Great Kanto Earthquake in Japan in 1923, and before that the Mexico City disaster, and then the 1666 conflagration in London when a cow kicked over an oil lamp.

The places that burnt in Canberra were in a suburb that you would not pick as a bushfire risk.

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Reply #13 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Fire bunkers should be mandatory.

The fire codes for the buildings must have been nonsense.

How could so many building catch fire with no trees around?

It's not uncommon for fires to spread to the house next door if there are no firefighters there to bring it under control. Just the heat is enough. Plus, a suburb is full of gas canisters, cooking oil, cars full of petrol, lawn mowers, IED factories etc.

It only takes one house with leaves in the gutters when the air is full of cinders.

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Reply #14 - Oct 15^th, 2017 at 8:05pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:

Gordon wrote on Oct 15^th, 2017 at 7:19pm:

Fire bunkers should be mandatory.

The fire codes for the buildings must have been nonsense.

How could so many building catch fire with no trees around?

It's not uncommon for fires to spread to the house next door if there are no firefighters there to bring it under control. Just the heat is enough. Plus, a suburb is full of gas canisters, cooking oil, cars full of petrol, lawn mowers, IED factories etc.

It only takes one house with leaves in the gutters when the air is full of cinders.

Hi FD,
I still have a feeling that the building codes were too weak.

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