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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #45 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #46 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?



The only one confused here is yourself, FD. 

Get back to us with a proper understanding of how small the Muslim Caliphate was compared to the Mongol and the British Empires...   Roll Eyes
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #47 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?



The only one confused here is yourself, FD. 

Get back to us with a proper understanding of how small the Muslim Caliphate was compared to the Mongol and the British Empires...   Roll Eyes


When was the Mongol Empire established Brian?

Do you agree with this now?

Quote:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


Or are you going to keep digging yourself a hole of idiocy in the hope of coming out the other side?
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #48 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 10:00pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 8:57am:
Australia is an exception to this rule, but it was designed to be a self-governing colony at its inception.


Australia (along with North America) was an exception because the natives were sparse and backward enough to simply be driven out and/or slaughtered into irrelevancy. They could then build their colonies entirely from their imported white population and quite literally pretend the native population never existed. As opposed to the other colonies where the British could not simply "deal" with the natives by ethnically cleansing/slaughering them - they actually had to work with them to varying degrees to make their colonies work.

I don't think FD ever did reconcile his 'tinted natives were so blessed by British imperialism' meme with the wholesale genocide/ethnic cleansing of the Australian and North American colonies.


Well no, but he saves his chagrin for a certain genocide committed by you-know-who.

Were they mindless? Were they a collective? Did they depopulate the Italian coastline in their quest for sex slaves?
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #49 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 5:53pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?



The only one confused here is yourself, FD. 

Get back to us with a proper understanding of how small the Muslim Caliphate was compared to the Mongol and the British Empires...   Roll Eyes


When was the Mongol Empire established Brian?

Do you agree with this now?

Quote:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


Or are you going to keep digging yourself a hole of idiocy in the hope of coming out the other side?


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, poor, poor, FD.  Sorry, bullying doesn't work with me.  Thought you'd have realised that by now.  Until you produce evidence that the Caliphate was larger than the Mongol Empire (which stretched from Poland in Europe to the Bering Strait, from the Barents Sea to the Persian Gulf) or the British Empire (which stretched around the globe, non-contiguously) you are just barking up the wrong tree.   I have provided maps.  You then tried to fudge it by concentrating on the Roman Empire, which I did not mention.   Now run along, I'm sure you can find some Grade Ones in the schoolyard that you can bully.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #50 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 5:53pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?



The only one confused here is yourself, FD. 

Get back to us with a proper understanding of how small the Muslim Caliphate was compared to the Mongol and the British Empires...   Roll Eyes


When was the Mongol Empire established Brian?

Do you agree with this now?

Quote:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


Or are you going to keep digging yourself a hole of idiocy in the hope of coming out the other side?


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, poor, poor, FD.  Sorry, bullying doesn't work with me.  Thought you'd have realised that by now.  Until you produce evidence that the Caliphate was larger than the Mongol Empire (which stretched from Poland in Europe to the Bering Strait, from the Barents Sea to the Persian Gulf) or the British Empire (which stretched around the globe, non-contiguously) you are just barking up the wrong tree.   I have provided maps.  You then tried to fudge it by concentrating on the Roman Empire, which I did not mention.   Now run along, I'm sure you can find some Grade Ones in the schoolyard that you can bully.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why would I provide the evidence to back up your idiotic claim Brian? This is your hole you dug yourself into. This is your own idiotic display. You claimed the Mongol Empire came before the Caliphate. When do you think it was Brian?
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #51 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:40pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 5:53pm:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, poor, poor, FD.  Sorry, bullying doesn't work with me.  Thought you'd have realised that by now.  Until you produce evidence that the Caliphate was larger than the Mongol Empire (which stretched from Poland in Europe to the Bering Strait, from the Barents Sea to the Persian Gulf) or the British Empire (which stretched around the globe, non-contiguously) you are just barking up the wrong tree.   I have provided maps.  You then tried to fudge it by concentrating on the Roman Empire, which I did not mention.   Now run along, I'm sure you can find some Grade Ones in the schoolyard that you can bully.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Why would I provide the evidence to back up your idiotic claim Brian? This is your hole you dug yourself into. This is your own idiotic display. You claimed the Mongol Empire came before the Caliphate. When do you think it was Brian?


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OH, dearie, dearie, me.  Obfuscating again, FD?  I wasn't asking you to back my claim, I was asking you to back your claim with clear evidence that shows the Caliphate larger than either the Mongol or the British Empires.  Now run along and find some and present it to us, for a change, rather than merely making an assertion.   Tsk, tsk, I'm sure those Grade Ones are missing you...   Roll Eyes
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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #52 - Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:59pm
 
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I was asking you to back your claim with clear evidence that shows the Caliphate larger than either the Mongol or the British Empires.


I never claimed it was. This was just another idiotic strawman from you.

Would you like to retract this idiotic claim?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims. 


Or am I bullying you just by asking whether you stand by it?

How about this one?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.


What do you think Brian? Stupid or not stupid? Or run away?

When was the mongol empire established Brian? Or is asking you a simple question now regarded as bullying your delicate intellect?
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Reply #53 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 5:40pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
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I was asking you to back your claim with clear evidence that shows the Caliphate larger than either the Mongol or the British Empires.


I never claimed it was. This was just another idiotic strawman from you.


You claimed it was the "In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed."   Unfortunately that isn't true.  The Mongol Empire was significantly larger than the Empire of the Muslims.   Tsk, tsk.  Run along, FD.  When you have some facts, we can then move this discussion along.

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Big, big difference in area covered...   Roll Eyes


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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #54 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?

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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #55 - Oct 18th, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 2:56pm:
In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed.


In a single word, bullshit, FD.  Total and utter bullshit.  First the Mongols, then the British created empires which were larger in both land area and population than what was captured by the Muslims.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Comparison of areas:
Mongol Empire:
http://i.imgur.com/5ZkzGnV.png

Muslim Empire:
https://www.so-rummet.se/sites/default/files/Karta-islams-expansion-araberna.jpg

British Empire:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/British_Empire.svg


You really are confused Brian.

Do you think the Roman Empire was bigger than the Caliphate?


Didn't mention the Roman Empire, FD. 

Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


You certainly are confused Brian. When was the Mongol Empire established?

Have you ever wondered why the British Empire brought about a massive and unprecedented increase in wealth and the spread of liberal democracy, whereas the Muslim empire brought about stagnation, with living standards remaining below what had occurred previously in the west and concurrently in the east?


Brian, let us know when you are less confused, OK?

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Re: Austria is rapidly coming to its senses.
Reply #56 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 7:08am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 6:59pm:
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I was asking you to back your claim with clear evidence that shows the Caliphate larger than either the Mongol or the British Empires.


I never claimed it was. This was just another idiotic strawman from you.


You claimed it was the "In only 130 years, the Muslims captured the largest land empire that had ever existed."   Unfortunately that isn't true.  The Mongol Empire was significantly larger than the Empire of the Muslims.   Tsk, tsk.  Run along, FD.  When you have some facts, we can then move this discussion along.

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/maps/images/112%20Arab%20Islamic%20Caliphate%20Expan...

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Big, big difference in area covered...   Roll Eyes




that had ever existed Brian, or in other words up until that time. The mongol empire came after the caliphate. Sorry to say FD is right - he never claimed the caliphate was bigger than the mongol empire.
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Reply #57 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 12:18pm
 
You need to focus on what he actually said Gandalf. Tsk tsk.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


When was this Mongol Empire Brian? Why won't you say?
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Reply #58 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
You need to focus on what he actually said Gandalf. Tsk tsk.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


When was this Mongol Empire Brian? Why won't you say?


1206 to the late 1300s, FD.

The Ottoman Empire was from 1299 to 1923.

Sorry to apologise for Brian, but does this answer your question?
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Reply #59 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:50pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
You need to focus on what he actually said Gandalf. Tsk tsk.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Concentrate on what was said, not what you imagined was said.  In both cases, the Mongol Empire before the establishment of the Caliphates and the British Empire afterwards, out classed it in both land area and population size.  Tsk, tsk, such wilful ignorance.    Roll Eyes


When was this Mongol Empire Brian? Why won't you say?


1206 to the late 1300s, FD.

The Ottoman Empire was from 1299 to 1923.

Sorry to apologise for Brian, but does this answer your question?



Mongol Empire??   Do you mean the Golden Horde?

Yes, the pillaged a massive area but calling it an empire is a huge stretch.

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