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Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:36am
 

Yet another assault on FREEDOM OF SPEECH



FREEDOM OF SPEECH = = "despicable form of abuse",        i.e. where criticism of moslems and ISLAMIC culture is deemed to be 'hateful'.



Any criticism and scrutiny of ISLAM/moslems, is now being routinely deemed as 'inappropriate', or as being 'hate speech'.
.....while moslems living in the West, are routinely allowed to incite hatred and the murder of persons who are not moslems. !!      [many, many instances, have been reported, but little action is ever taken against those persons.   e.g. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1507384837/53#53 ]





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“New national police hub to crack down on trolls posting hate crime online,”
Sky News, October 8, 2017



Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Oct 09, 2017 06:18 pm

UK: New national police hub to crack down on “hate crime online”


National Police Chiefs’ Council lead for hate crime, assistant chief constable Mark Hamilton, said:

“We recognise and will uphold the right to free speech even where it causes offence – but this does not extend to inciting hatred or threatening people.”

This is an entirely meaningless statement.

They will uphold the freedom of speech, but pursue and prosecute those who are “inciting hatred.”

“Inciting hatred” according to whom?


For years, Leftists and Islamic supremacists have characterized any and every honest analysis of the motivating ideology of the jihad threat as “inciting hatred,”             rather than as an exercise of free speech that causes offense.



They are, indeed, essentially the only ones talking about “hate speech” at all, and so it will be up to them to determine what it is.

This new police hub, therefore, will work to destroy what remains of the freedom of speech in Britain.

While jihadis are operating in Britain more aggressively than ever, the British government is diverting valuable police resources to cracking down on the freedom of speech......


“The national online hate crime hub that we are funding is an important step to ensure more victims have the confidence to come forward and report the vile abuse to which they are being subjected.

She added: “The hub will also improve our understanding of the scale and nature of this despicable form of abuse.....

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/uk-new-national-police-hub-to-crack-down-on-hate-crime-online


Q.
What is 'HATE SPEECH' ?

"We recognise and will uphold the right to free speech even where it causes offence – but this does not extend to inciting hatred or threatening people."


That principle is commendable.

But how long will it be, before UK police routinely deem ANY criticism or scrutiny, of moslems and ISLAMIC culture to be 'intolerable' because it is deemed by moslems and leftists, to be 'hateful' ?


CONSIDER;

'HATE SPEECH' today, is routinely being defined within many Western nations, as any open speech which moslems claim is 'offensive',
...to themselves. !!

What is not offensive to moslems, nor to governments, apparently, is the vile incitement to hatred and incitement to murder, which can be found within the 'holy' Koran.
n.b.
I do NOT want the Koran banned.
But i do want those who choose to follow a philosophy like ISLAM, to be either expelled from Australia, or placed within internment camps, until they can be removed from Australia.

Why so ?

Because moslems believe [i.e. ISLAMIC law teaches], that it is lawful, for moslems, to rob, and to rape, and to murder others,
....so long as the victims of these crimes are NOT moslems.

100% TRUE




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IN CONTRAST, AND STILL IN THE UK


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UK: Muslim rape gangs still abusing girls across the country, authorities anxious to show it’s not an Islamic problem


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"We shouldn't hold ourself captive, to someone elses feelings/predjudices."
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"Tolerating inconstistency, will cause you to become inconstistent."
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"What we tolerate.....we encourage and condone."
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"The standard you walk past is the standard you accept."
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"What you ignore, you permit."
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"Today i'm speaking up,     ....for myself."
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Discrimination, is not a 'dirty' word.



Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.       good judgement or taste.



Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.


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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:42am
 



While Western governments are prepared to tolerate,
1/ the 'HATE SPEECH', and
2/ the incitement to murder,
......which is commonly seen, coming from members of the moslem community, living in the West.



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Q.
Why do we allow these people to live among us ?


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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!





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"Behead those who insult ISLAM"

Islamic street protest - IN AUSTRALIA - on the streets of Sydney from Hyde Park to George Streets, September 15, 2012.





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THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"





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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4





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"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters


QUESTION;
What 'set off' Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar on that fateful day, to decide to murder Australian Curtis Cheng in Parramatta, NSW ???

ANSWER;
ONLY ALLAH KNOWS!



n.b.
ISLAMIC culture encouraged Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, to murder Australian Curtis Cheng.



Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar was inspired by ISLAM's imperative, which urged him TO KILL THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH.
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Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:58am
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:21pm
 
It's always disturbing when bureaucrats try to 'reassure' people with vague and meaningless platitudes. What does it mean to 'incite hatred'? If someone's religion involves slaughtering those who do not submit, why shouldn't we incite hatred against them?

Why is religious ideology offered the same protection as things like race, that are not a matter of choice?

http://news.sky.com/story/new-national-police-hub-to-crack-down-on-trolls-posting-hate-crime-online-11071987

The move is part of a drive to improve support for victims and increase prosecutions of trolls who abuse others online over their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or transgender identity.

He added: "We recognise and will uphold the right to free speech even where it causes offence - but this does not extend to inciting hatred or threatening people."

In 2015/16, a total of 62,518 hate crimes were recorded by forces in England and Wales, while the CPS completed 15,442 hate crime prosecutions.
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Reply #4 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 11:57am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
why shouldn't we incite hatred against them?


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freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
why shouldn't we incite hatred against them?


so you have no problem with them inciting hatred against westerners?

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH = = "despicable form of abuse"






Quote:

By Christine Douglass-Williams on Nov 14, 2017 06:57 am

UK’s top counterterrorism officers tell media to “rein in” coverage of the Islamic State and jihad terror


Britain’s top counter terrorism officers have urged the media to rein back on coverage about Islamic State and terrorist attacks because of concerns that it helps to spread propaganda.



And here we hoped (against hope) that Britain had learned a lesson following the shocking, massive coverups of Muslim rape gangs brutalizing tens of thousands of innocent UK girls, who were referred to by their attackers as “easy meat” and “trash.”

One report indicated that up to a million girls were assaulted.



The coverup was because police and social workers were terrified of being called  “racist” or “Islamophobic,” so they sacrificed their young to avoid such labels.

This scandal and horror should have resulted in an uproar in the UK.

Instead, a Labour Party Member of Parliament, Naz Shah, retweeted that the young girls should “shut up for the good of diversity.”





Now comes another shocker: top counter-terrorism officers in the UK — Mark Rowley and Cressida Dick — are pressuring the media to curb reports about the Islamic State and jihad attacks, putting the onus on the media for spreading Islamic State “propaganda” and terrifying the public.

[you see, TERROR, is caused, by talking about terror events.    you know that its true!!!     - Yadda]




This attempt to create a false utopia and project to the public an illusion of safety is a detriment to Britons.

Sanitizing the truth about the Islamic State and jihad terror only adds to the risk.

It will leave UK families without ample knowledge of jihad activity, threat levels, and how to assess those levels to protect themselves and their children.



These so-called “top counterterrorism officers” are in effect requesting a partial cover-up of Islamic State activity and jihad terror.



In so doing,         they presume to think for the public         and hope to silence potentially warranted public outcries,

......and avoid public accountability.




In effect, they’re hiding their potential failures, while [themselves!] aiding and abetting jihadi activity, even if unwittingly......




https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/uks-top-counterterrorism-officers-tell-media-...


IF WE WOULD SHINE A LIGHT ON IT,
WE WOULD WATCH ALL OF THE 'RATS' SCURRY AWAY FROM THAT LIGHT !!!



Q.
Why do our political leaders resolutely, refuse to speak honestly,
about the threat of terror and murder, which mainstream ISLAM poses to us ?

Q.
Why do our political leaders unceasingly choose to pander to, and appease, those within our moslem communities ?




Europeans, security specialists, pandering to those who threaten us, pandering to those who would murder us.

It is disgusting.

It is treasonous, imo.


Dictionary;
pander = = gratify or indulge (an immoral or distasteful desire or habit).




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IN AUSTRALIA.....

IT IS NO DIFFERENT.....



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Yadda wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 7:41am:

Google;
the Muslim community is our greatest protection against terrorism


Google;
the Muslim community is Australia's biggest ally in the fight against terrorists





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Reply #7 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 9:17am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
why shouldn't we incite hatred against them?


so you have no problem with them inciting hatred against westerners?

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




FD, you didn't answer?



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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm
 
For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported - that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims. This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.
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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported - that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims. This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.


Allowed? Oh, no no no. It should be mandatory!

Remember, Y believes you will receive eternal damnation for being a Moslem == a follower of Islam. You should not have this right.

FD refuses to answer whether he upholds your right to freely express pro-Islamic views. Instead, he upholds his own right to tell porkies about you.

And this is what we all mean by Freeeedom.

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polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:

For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported

that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims.


This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.




gandalf,

The hatred, and hostility and warfare and murder,
which ISLAM plainly encourages within its own 'religious' texts,
towards people who do not believe, as moslems believe,
is sufficient cause, for me to warn my fellow Australians,
about ISLAM's true intentions towards them.

I want Australians to be 'on guard' and to be prepared and fully warned,
for what moslems intend, towards those [we] who have rejected ISLAM.

And yet, i would discourage any Australian from engaging in any unlawful acts, against any moslems.



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1510704790/2#2
Quote:

"....war on Infidels is mandated in the Qur’an and Sunnah."
- moslem accused, in court





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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1509883266/40#40
Quote:

ISLAM's foundational religious texts, have plainly been interpreted by moslem scholars to indicate,
that those who have embraced ISLAM,
have embraced enmity, and hatred, and hostility and warfare and murder, towards those who reject ISLAM.



Quote:

Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past.

They are not dead letters.

They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
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we are pledging to wage war against all mankind, al-Tabari






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Yadda said....

Who is Mohammed ? Who is Allah ?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1510873256/0#0
Quote:

ARGUMENT;

The moslem is, the person who has sworn [and who continues to his swear] allegiance to ISLAM and to ISLAM's modalities, and, to Allah.


ARGUMENT;
There can be little doubt in the mind of any reasonable person,
that the moslem [the person who has sworn [and who continues to his swear] allegiance to ISLAM and to Allah],
is fully aware of what his 'religious' obligations are,
towards those who have been deemed to be the enemies of his faith.





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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1510704790/0#0
Quote:

ISLAM is a philosophy which encourages the murder or enslavement [through the agency of terror] of those who reject ISLAM.

Period.

There is no 'phobia', nor is it 'bigotry', nor is it 'racist',
          to fear an identifiable group of people, who everyday demonstrate their deceit, their untrustworthiness, and their veiled and ruthless and conniving malevolent intent, towards those who reject ISLAM.

They, moslems, are all vicious, deceitful, wanna-be homicidal maniacs, who deserve to be driven [lawfully expelled] from all Western nations.





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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.


SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.


Otherwise we are no better than moslems.




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Reply #11 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:48pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:

For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported

that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims.


This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.




gandalf,

Just a personal point of view,
but in my opinion,
moslems       the followers of ISLAM,       are doing a pretty good job themselves,
of 'inciting hatred' against moslems.


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By Christine Douglass-Williams on Nov 16, 2017 09:28 am

UK: Muslim teen arrested for plotting jihad attack at Justin Bieber concert


A TEEN accused of plotting an ISIS-inspired terror attack on the day of a Justin Bieber concert researched security at the event....

The 17-year-old, who cannot be named because of his age, was arrested at his home in south Wales by police who found a claw hammer, kitchen knife and “martyrdom letter”

People such as Sadiq.....

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"We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah and we are not ashamed of that,..."



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By Nicolai Sennels on May 31, 2017 09:02 am

The real cause of Islamic terrorism: “We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah”


Every time a new jihad attack strikes innocents in the West, media and politicians get busy blaming “bad integration,” “poverty,” “marginalization,” “racism,” etc.

For some reason, it never occurs to them to ask if Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam and the increasing number of followers of this particular religion in our countries......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/the-real-cause-of-islamic-terrorism-we-are-mo...




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Melbourne, 6 Australians dead.

An atrocity, committed by a 'Greek' person claiming that...

"Muslim faith is the correct faith according to the whole world.....

And I am not guilty."


.....n.b.        the moslem who did this, considers himself to be a virtuous person.





The precepts of ISLAM require moslems to fight and to kill persons who reject ISLAM.

And ISLAM calls on moslems to fight, and to destroy and to kill Allah's enemies.



Killing the disbeliever [to the moslem], is performing 'good works' for his faith.

Killing the disbeliever, is what all of the religious precepts of ISLAM direct him to do.

All moslems are taught, by ISLAM's precepts, to be combatants, against Allah's enemies.

To fight, to kill, those who 'disbelieve'.



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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported - that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims. This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.


What do you think people should be permitted to say Gandalf?

Is there anything in the Quran that you think incites hatred?
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freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported - that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims. This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.


What do you think people should be permitted to say Gandalf?

Is there anything in the Quran that you think incites hatred?


We'll put that to you, FD. Is there anything you've read in the Koran that incites hatred?

You're read the Jihadwatch quotes of Chapter 9. Which parts support your own views on killing off the Muselman? How do you justify your own hatred of the tinted races?

Please explain.
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Reply #14 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:18pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:15pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
For those who are a bit confused, when Yadda says things like 'every muslim, man, woman and child, is a latent psychopathic wannabe murderer' - and goes on to call for all muslims (men, women and children) to be rounded up, detained and then deported - that is 'inciting hatred' against muslims. This is the sort of speech that Yadda and FD pretend is in the same category as saying (for example) 'Islam is a dangerous ideology' - and therefore should be allowed.


What do you think people should be permitted to say Gandalf?

Is there anything in the Quran that you think incites hatred?


We'll put that to you, FD.



Is there anything you've read in the Koran that incites hatred?







"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4



Karnal,

Would you describe that Koran verse, as inciting hatred of non-moslems ?

Please explain.
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