Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10
th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10
th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10
th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10
th, 2017 at 9:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10
th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?
And why would they do that?
Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman. Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women? Tsk, tsk, surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?
Why? They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces .....
not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ......
Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge? Surely it's the other way around.
Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps? Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me? I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.
Well, we're dealing with a double standard here - the same 'culture' that expects 'modest women' to cover up also seeks, as a minority, to criticise those who do not follow that rule.
When you have been welcomed into a nation, seriously, you may voice those criticisms in private, but you must begin, at some time, to learn to fit in, rather than alienate others by making a firm rule that your way is the only way.
In the West, we get by on a degree (not total) of tolerance, and those who come here must accept tolerance as well.
So far in this nation, I see no demand that Muslim women not be modest or divest themselves of reasonable attire - it is only the full face cover that is creating problems and the absolute determination of some in that group to adhere to that and condemn all others..... that last is intolerance, and it is not from 'this' side of the question.
Our preachers don't go around calling over-clad Muslim women covered meat pies to be devoured at any time.... unlike those who say that Western women exercising their right to wear what they want means they are 'cat meat'.
I've actually made eye contact with a hijab wearing woman more than once, and unfortunately I have no real idea what her response is to meeting me .. I have no idea that she might feel that in making eye contact I may be intent on raping her or whatever... on the other hand she has no idea of what my thoughts are.
These things are a barrier to communication, and left alone, and outside of a very primitive 'culture', would make a lot of difference to the way people interact.
My observation of that lady's eyes was that she was uncertain, and that she did not fear rape from me, but that she was longing to 'get out' and was uncertain about what to do and how to behave, and for my part, I wondered what kind of person was inside that 'tent' .... what is that phrase so in vogue? .... 'coming out of the closet'......
I don't see that as offensive in this nation... I've had Arab-derived girlfriends who are fabulous in many ways.. but I will never be a Muslim.