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Reply #225 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:26pm:
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Because for thousands of years and billions of people it has ever been thus...  anything else is an aberration or anomaly certainly a very very small minority.

men and women...  multiply... and I don't mean maths.
men and women have children and create families from their progeny.
men and women keep the species alive.

Need I go on?


Ok, so for the umpteenth time, what if they don't create families, is it still marriage?

Also, people can have children without getting married, can't they?

YOU are an idiot....  can't refute what I said...  go away and take your ludicrous strawmen with you.

Gweggy is busy shooting himself in the foot and avoiding reality.  Soon he'll be just like you. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


G, you say that marriage is about multiplying and having children, therefore if the couple don't have children, is that considered still a marriage? Should we annul a marriage that doesn't produce children?

Actually I've said  marriage is about many things Auggie...  no need to create more lies about what I say.
You'll be taking gweggy's place doing that sort of thing. Cheesy


Yes you have said marriage is about many things, Grendel. 

Caesar has not lied at all.  S/he is, one by one, tearing your 'many things' apart.
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Reply #226 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:39pm
 

A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".


Or, you can believe the Goose     Grin
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Reply #227 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 7:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
"Roman Emperor Nero was married to not one man, but two. His nuptials were recorded and discussed at the time between subjects - friendly and hostile.

"The detail is recorded in the 1999 book Roman Homosexuality (updated in 2012) by Craig Williams, a classics professor of Brooklyn College, New York.

"The book includes a chapter on marriage between men, practiced throughout the empire, all the way to the top."


Wow great bit of info.

Cheers for that.
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Reply #228 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:08pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
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Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Anybody who has done their Family History will know that "marriage" dates back to the year dot ... or when people could write and fill in Church Registers.



actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church



And among very many people, all over the world.

Not always between a man and a woman.


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A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".

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omg... well you do read some weird stuff..

as we are talking about marriage   as we know it.. or thought we did.. Roll Eyes

can we see some of the registrations of these homosexual marriages that took place hundreds of years ago... I am not disputing homosexuality in Roman times ..but we all know Nero was depraved  as many of them were...and mock ceremonies do not make a marriage..

unless you are gweg that is.



Perhaps you can answer this question: if a marriage does not result in children, is the marriage valid?
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Reply #229 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:11pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Anybody who has done their Family History will know that "marriage" dates back to the year dot ... or when people could write and fill in Church Registers.



actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church



And among very many people, all over the world.

Not always between a man and a woman.


Got a link to that comment?


A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".

A Link.


omg... well you do read some weird stuff..

as we are talking about marriage   as we know it.. or thought we did.. Roll Eyes

can we see some of the registrations of these homosexual marriages that took place hundreds of years ago... I am not disputing homosexuality in Roman times ..but we all know Nero was depraved  as many of them were...and mock ceremonies do not make a marriage..

unless you are gweg that is.




Aye - and that's always been oddities and transgressions and has subsequently been stamped out... thank you for coming.  I read the links thanks, and it clearly shows that 'some' homosexual priests etc carried out homosexual marriages, but that practice was outlawed fifteen or sixteen hundred years ago... you are not permitted to cite illegal acts by some rogue priests that may have occurred subsequently.  Part of the reason for the attacks on the Templars, centuries later, was that they were cited as being homosexuals.... and thus agin the nature of Man and of God!!!

This kind of nonsense is like arguing with the 'feminist' minded about the suffragettes - who, by their violent and illegal and irresponsible actions, actually delayed the vote for women in Britain for twenty years after it was granted by majority vote under the first vote employing universal male suffrage in 1900 in Australia.

MEN gave women the vote in this nation at the first possible opportunity - MEN delayed it for twenty years in Britain due to the activities of suffragettes.

There is a lesson there for those who wish to learn properly and stop listening to the voices they think are from the Oracles.

Round 2:-  "actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church "

Indeed - but it was always solemnised by priests or heads of tribes or whatever.... just because one specific brand of religion adopted it and applied their own rules to it makes not one jot of difference.  Attacking some amorphous 'church' has no meaning whatsoever in the discussion of marriage.

Now - when you talk about 'the church' - what exactly 'church' do you mean?




So you concede that marriage is rooted in religion? If so, we should also outlaw divorce? Frankly I don't think people should be married for a second time just because of 'irreconcilable differences'. Marriage is sacred. You only get one bite at the cherry.
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Reply #230 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:03pm
 
We know now that marriages were originally between a man and his men or livestock. His shrews came later.

Why did Mr Howard change this?
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Reply #231 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:08pm
 
The union between men and women has been around for thousands of years and by billions of people...


Wassup...  can't deny it...  of course you cant.

What is the trend?
What is the norm?
Where did all those people come from all those years ago?
Where are they coming from now?

You people and especially gweggy and Auggie are a joke. Cheesy
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Reply #232 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:03pm:
We know now that marriages were originally between a man and his men or livestock. His shrews came later.

Why did Mr Howard change this?



what did Mr Howard change karmel?....

had he  known what your mum and dad produced  he would have said.. marriage is between man and man only...

men produce the sex gene...

ye gods and they cant get that right...they have had enough chances...now they deserve each other.....

lets see what mess that can make of that arrangement.. Smiley Smiley... and it will keep the left male population down...no more brutal CFMEU nazis..
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Reply #233 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:12pm
 
Greggery has just comprehensively proven that gay marriage and beastiality preceded the marriage of breeders.

Looks like gay marriage is just turning back the cock after all.

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Reply #234 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:08pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Anybody who has done their Family History will know that "marriage" dates back to the year dot ... or when people could write and fill in Church Registers.



actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church



And among very many people, all over the world.

Not always between a man and a woman.


Got a link to that comment?


A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".

A Link.



omg... well you do read some weird stuff..

as we are talking about marriage   as we know it.. or thought we did.. Roll Eyes

can we see some of the registrations of these homosexual marriages that took place hundreds of years ago... I am not disputing homosexuality in Roman times ..but we all know Nero was depraved  as many of them were...and mock ceremonies do not make a marriage..

unless you are gweg that is.



Perhaps you can answer this question: if a marriage does not result in children, is the marriage valid?



if its registered ... yes indeedy...it isnt compulsory to produce children....but it is/was   the plan...

I know a few people who have never been able to conceive and  its broken their hearts.....so to steal their marriage for what ever purpose you have in mind.....

is pathetic..
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Reply #235 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
Greggery has just comprehensively proven that gay marriage and beastiality preceded the marriage of breeders.

Looks like gay marriage is just turning back the cock after all.






gweg is an authority  on everything anal... defy him at your peril..one clap and you go   poof!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #236 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:18pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:08pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Anybody who has done their Family History will know that "marriage" dates back to the year dot ... or when people could write and fill in Church Registers.



actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church



And among very many people, all over the world.

Not always between a man and a woman.


Got a link to that comment?


A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".

A Link.



omg... well you do read some weird stuff..

as we are talking about marriage   as we know it.. or thought we did.. Roll Eyes

can we see some of the registrations of these homosexual marriages that took place hundreds of years ago... I am not disputing homosexuality in Roman times ..but we all know Nero was depraved  as many of them were...and mock ceremonies do not make a marriage..

unless you are gweg that is.



Perhaps you can answer this question: if a marriage does not result in children, is the marriage valid?



if its registered ... yes indeedy...it isnt compulsory to produce children....but it is/was   the plan...

I know a few people who have never been able to conceive and  its broken their hearts.....so to steal their marriage for what ever purpose you have in mind.....

is pathetic..


I say, dear, were they gay?
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Reply #237 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 10:34pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 8:08pm:
cods wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
mothra wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Neferti wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:47pm:
Anybody who has done their Family History will know that "marriage" dates back to the year dot ... or when people could write and fill in Church Registers.



actually, marriage existed long before it was hijacked by the church



And among very many people, all over the world.

Not always between a man and a woman.


Got a link to that comment?


A significant body of academic work shows that marriage and "other solemnised relationships" have not always been between "a man and a woman".

A Link.



omg... well you do read some weird stuff..

as we are talking about marriage   as we know it.. or thought we did.. Roll Eyes

can we see some of the registrations of these homosexual marriages that took place hundreds of years ago... I am not disputing homosexuality in Roman times ..but we all know Nero was depraved  as many of them were...and mock ceremonies do not make a marriage..

unless you are gweg that is.



Perhaps you can answer this question: if a marriage does not result in children, is the marriage valid?



if its registered ... yes indeedy...it isnt compulsory to produce children....but it is/was   the plan...

I know a few people who have never been able to conceive and  its broken their hearts.....so to steal their marriage for what ever purpose you have in mind.....

is pathetic..


Not being able to have children and choosing not to have them is completely different.

I was referring to the latter
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Reply #238 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 10:37pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The union between men and women has been around for thousands of years and by billions of people...


Wassup...  can't deny it...  of course you cant.

What is the trend?
What is the norm?
Where did all those people come from all those years ago?
Where are they coming from now?

You people and especially gweggy and Auggie are a joke. Cheesy


Slavery had been practised for thousands of years and by billions of people...

Wassup... can't deny it.... of course you can't.

What is the trend?
What is the norm?
Where did all those slaves come from all those years ago?
Why aren't they there now?

Because society changes....

You people and Soren have no idea.  Cheesy
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Reply #239 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 10:42pm
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 10:37pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The union between men and women has been around for thousands of years and by billions of people...


Wassup...  can't deny it...  of course you cant.

What is the trend?
What is the norm?
Where did all those people come from all those years ago?
Where are they coming from now?

You people and especially gweggy and Auggie are a joke. Cheesy


Slavery had been practised for thousands of years and by billions of people...

Wassup... can't deny it.... of course you can't.

What is the trend?
What is the norm?
Where did all those slaves come from all those years ago?
Why aren't they there now?

Because society changes....

You people and Soren have no idea.  Cheesy

Cheesy


So if two blokes can't marry then it's  like slavery!!

You are all out of your minds - assuming you had any to be out of. I doubt it. 


Not very change is good, not every diversity is positive, not every fashion is to be embraced. Progress is not in itself a good. Bad things progress.

You have to be discerning. Jumping on bandwagon is stupid.
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