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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #60 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 8:19pm
 
Yes. Chapter 9 is entirely devoted to encouraging Muslims to slaughter the infidel:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469837313
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Reply #61 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 8:25pm
 
Why don't you read it?

That's a question.
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #62 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace surrender and make obeisance and accept permanent second class citizenship, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.


Tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.. so help you Allah.
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #63 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:01pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow. 

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace surrender and make obeisance and accept permanent second class citizenship, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.


Tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.. so help you Allah.


Cutting bits out of the Koran, are we?

Is this how to do it, FD?
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Reply #64 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:16am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow. 

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace surrender and make obeisance and accept permanent second class citizenship, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.


Tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.. so help you Allah.


Cutting bits out of the Koran, are we?

Is this how to do it, FD?


Why not?

I tear pages out every day to usevas toilet paper

Its a shame they use such rough paper though, how about a push for softer pages, more soft on my tush.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #65 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:40am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.

Don't you mean if the submit?


I'm not sure, Grendel. FD's read chapter 9, let's ask him.

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?

Apparently karnal doesn't know what he's talking about...  who'd have thunk it eh... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #66 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:56am
 
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Yes, allowing muslims to indoctrinate kids in this country will lead us down the rocky path to them taking over..........GB is a prime example........
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #67 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:08am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:16am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow. 

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace surrender and make obeisance and accept permanent second class citizenship, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.


Tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.. so help you Allah.


Cutting bits out of the Koran, are we?

Is this how to do it, FD?


Why not?

I tear pages out every day to use as toilet paper




Good-oh.

Don't forget to wipe your chin, old boy.

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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #68 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:39am
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:40am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.

Don't you mean if the submit?


I'm not sure, Grendel. FD's read chapter 9, let's ask him.

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?

Apparently karnal doesn't know what he's talking about...  who'd have thunk it eh... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I've read verse 5. In addition, I've read 6 & 7. I find it helps to read the whole thing, but that's just me.

If you don't, you see passages like, kill the Mushriken wherever you find them, but you miss the next sentence where it says to offer them refuge if they're nice to you. If you don't read the following verses after this, you miss the explanation why.

Matty disagrees. He'd rather wipe his bottom than read the books he's talking about, and that's his right in a free society.

FD would rather quote certain parts and omit others. He assumes his audience won't read a few verses, and he's right. Most would rather wipe their bottoms than have a peek at what they're discussing.

You?
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #69 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:40am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:08am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 4:16am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:13pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow. 

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace surrender and make obeisance and accept permanent second class citizenship, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.


Tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.. so help you Allah.


Cutting bits out of the Koran, are we?

Is this how to do it, FD?


Why not?

I tear pages out every day to use as toilet paper




Good-oh.

Don't forget to wipe your chin, old boy.



Miam miam.
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #70 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:28pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:39am:
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:40am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.

Don't you mean if the submit?


I'm not sure, Grendel. FD's read chapter 9, let's ask him.

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?

Apparently karnal doesn't know what he's talking about...  who'd have thunk it eh... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I've read verse 5. In addition, I've read 6 & 7. I find it helps to read the whole thing, but that's just me.

If you don't, you see passages like, kill the Mushriken wherever you find them, but you miss the next sentence where it says to offer them refuge if they're nice to you. If you don't read the following verses after this, you miss the explanation why.

Matty disagrees. He'd rather wipe his bottom than read the books he's talking about, and that's his right in a free society.

FD would rather quote certain parts and omit others. He assumes his audience won't read a few verses, and he's right. Most would rather wipe their bottoms than have a peek at what they're discussing.

You?


Have you read the whole chapter? The entire thing is about slaughtering the infidel.

Don't you think it is a little absurd to expect non-Muslims to try to end the slaughter by being nice to the people doing the slaughtering and converting to Islam rather than defending themselves? Why do you defend this nonsense?
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Reply #71 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:30pm
 
Are you asking if I'm defending the Koran, FD, or if I'm defending your porkies?

I'm curious. I'm keen to know what you think.

If it's the former, I find the discussion on offering refuge and demanding donations lacking. However, I'm not sure why the rules of war are included in the Koran at all.

At no point does the Koran give followers free-rein to go out and kill people. At the very least, you can understand from reading these verses that the Koran does not encourage its followers to kill believers, but that's just what ISIS and assorted terrorists do.

You can see from your own quotes that what Islamist terrorists do is against the rules. No Muslim can defend it.

Now you should know by now, FD, that I'm completely amoral. I'm a hideous spineless jellyfish, an Islamic blowfly. If you're a Muslim, good - be the best Muslim you can be. Pray, have faith, give charity, fast, visit Mecca. If you believe in freedom, that's good too. Promote freedom for all - freedom of trade, movement, speech. Practice John Stuart Mill's maxim: do what you want, as long as it doesn't bother anyone else. Be honest. Debate, discuss, answer questions. Get involved.

And if you believe in the supremacy of the white race, be the best racist you can be. Promote ethnic and racial division. Promote the virtues of the white race. Spread propaganda about the tinted races and their apologists. Don't cower behind a mask of liberalism, be proud of your racism. Be honest and up-front.

I'm happy to support whoever people want to be, FD, I just think they should stick to their principles.

But that's just me.
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Reply #72 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:15pm
 
You?
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Reply #73 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:00pm
 


@ Karnal and Reply #71



Moslems and Karnal disagree with the       arguments       which i posted here;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0


I also presented some evidences, in support of my arguments.

But Karnal and moslems seem unwilling to address the implication of those evidences.



Moslems and persons like Karnal,        instead, persist with barefaced denials, and with barefaced lies.

They are shameless.




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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


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And pigs might fly - in Barcelona.



Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off



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THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"




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Reply #74 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:29pm
 
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If it's the former, I find the discussion on offering refuge and demanding donations lacking. However, I'm not sure why the rules of war are included in the Koran at all.


Because Muhammad turned into a warmonger as soon as he was in a position to do so, and he needed some convenient revelations to encourage his followers to slaughter the infidel on his behalf.

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At no point does the Koran give followers free-rein to go out and kill people.


Like you said, there are many caveats, such as if they convert to Islam, you can't kill them. Unless of course they change their mind.

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If you're a Muslim, good - be the best Muslim you can be. Pray, have faith, give charity, fast, visit Mecca.


According to the Koran, the best Muslim you can be is one who kills and dies in the name of Allah.
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