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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #45 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


According to which Muslims?

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Reply #46 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #47 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...



According to which Muslims?






According to Mohammed and Allah.


greggery,

Was Mohammed ['the messenger of Allah'],        a        moslem ?


Google;
Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them



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ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....


"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....


"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."



THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



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"....the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
Koran 4.101


"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



ARGUMENT;
For those who would argue that those Koran verses are an anachronism,       ....and that Koran verses do not reflect or guide, the intent of the moslem community, here in Australia, today,             .....I would offer, that the Koran is, and always has been, ~the~ most important source of religious authority for ISLAMIC religious leaders, and ~the~ most important source of religious instruction, for every moslem.    [and moslems themselves will openly attest to this fact]

Any person who would suggest other than that, is either ignorant, OR, is being deliberately deceitful.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #48 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.

Don't you mean if they submit?
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #49 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...




But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.....




....rape their women,           and murder their men.





THIS WAS MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE

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Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what that means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust.

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them.

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.



Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8


Q.
Why did Mohammed believe that he was permitted to behave in this was towards captive women ?

A.
In ISLAMIC law, ALL captive non-moslem women, are considered to be war booty [i.e. 'lawful' rape candidates, available to be used for the pleasure of moslem men]...


"..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..."
Koran 4.22-24

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."
Koran 33.50




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MOSLEM 'YOUTH' IN AUSTRALIA FOLLOWING MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE

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An example, of how moslems will typically 'help' any 'needy' kuffar......


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-09/police-say-two-girls-gang-raped-at-fairfie...
2014-04-09
Quote:

Two schoolgirls gang-raped at Fairfield after meeting three men on Sydney train, police say
By police reporter Lucy Carter


Updated 1 hour 18 minutes ago

Two schoolgirls have been gang-raped by three men in broad daylight in Sydney's south west, police say, and there are fears the men could strike again.

According to police, the girls, both 16, skipped school in the Blacktown area to go shopping at Castle Hill.

....Superintendent Peter Lennon says they asked three men for directions and were told they would be shown to a bus terminal.

"The girls were lost, they were trying to get some help," Superintendent Lennon said.

"Unfortunately they were coaxed by these young men into coming to Fairfield - way, way off track of where they wanted to go."

......Superintendent Lennon the men had been described as being of "Middle Eastern Mediterranean" appearance.

The first male is described as being aged between 19 and 21 with a dark complexion, about 178cm tall, and with a thin build and dark hair.






Karnal,

According to            ISLAMIC law           those moslem 'youth', who raped two Australian schoolgirls did nothing wrong, they did nothing unlawful.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Re: ISLAMIC school in Australia, teaches open sedition
Reply #50 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


... But if they make peace, provide them with refuge.

You see, FD? Easy. Just tell the truth.

Don't you mean if the submit?


I'm not sure, Grendel. FD's read chapter 9, let's ask him.

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?
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Reply #51 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:19pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm:

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?



Karnal,

Mainstream       ISLAMIC law         calls on moslems
to keep themselves apart from disbelievers,
and to condemn them,
and to MURDER them.



Google;
divisions of the world, according to islam


Google;
ISLAM divides the world, into the House of Islam and the House of War



ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrine, divides the world into two distinct camps.


DIVISIONS OF THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO ISLAM,


Dar al-Islam = = the house of Islam, the house of Peace, the house of Submission [those places where Sharia has authority].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Islam


Dar al-Harb = = "house of war", those countries where Sharia is subservient, to the laws of men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Harb



Dar al-Harb = =
the place where the authority of ISLAMIC law is rejected,
the place where moslems have to concede, to disbelievers, their 'rightful' authority to rule,
the place where moslems are subject to the 'unjust' laws of the disbelievers who rule,
the place of          moslem HUMILIATION        before disbelievers,
the "house of war"




The moslem who is living in Australia, regards EVERY disbeliever [i.e. every Australian] as a 'Harbi'.

And what is a 'Harbi' ?


Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war"

A Harbi, is a non-moslem,      WHO [through choice] IS NOT UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF MOSLEM/ISLAMIC LAW.


A Harbi, is an enemy of Allah.

".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi


Google;
A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #52 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 
That's a no from Y. Thanks, Y.

What say you, FD?
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Reply #53 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:28pm
 


Harbis




Quote:

Saturday, 31 August 2013

Australian Muslim leader calls for murder of Buddhists



Muslim cleric in Australia: "Oh Allah, count the Buddhists and the Hindus one by one. Oh Allah, count them and kill them to the very last one."

Hate speech and genocide

Islam divides people into two antagonistic groups - Muslims (collectively known as the Ummah) versus Kaffirs (aka Kufr, Kuffars, Infidels or non-believers).

Kaffirs are subdivided further - Jews and Christians who accept the supremacy of Islam are known as Dhimmis, and are allowed to live as second-class citizens, provided they pay the extortionate Jizya (infidel tax) to their Muslim masters. The state of being a submissive Dhimmi is known as Dhimmitude.

Buddhists, Pagans and members of all other 'non-Abrahamic' religions, together with secularists, and those Jews and Christians who do not accept Muslim domination, are regarded as Harbis - targets of war.

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/australian-muslim-leader-calls-for....


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Reply #54 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:44pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:28pm:

That's a no from Y. Thanks, Y.

What say you, FD?



Still not listening yet, are ya, K.       Cheesy

Klosed mind.




Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:58pm:

FD, does it say to kill the Mushriken if they don't submit?



Yes.

Koran chapter 9.





ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING,            .....JUST FOR KARNAL.


Koran chapter 9



Quote:

Buddhists as Harbis


Buddhists have always been favorite targets because:

(1) The Koran (Surah 9, ayah 5) commands that polytheists and idolaters should be murdered wherever they are found.

Buddhist statues and icons provided the perfect excuse for a bloodbath.

Modern Muslims continue to believe that since Buddhists are not monotheists they must be forced to convert to Islam or be killed......

http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/australian-muslim-leader-calls-for....


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Reply #55 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
You're quoting someone's blog, Y. FD was talking about the Koran. Chapter 9, verse 5, to be precise, which states this:

Quote:
But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Then this:

Quote:
And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.


FD knows this chapter well. You might like to read it yourself, Y.
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Reply #56 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 4:54pm
 
Repent what?
Establish prayer to whom?
Pay how much to whom for what reason?
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Reply #57 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 7:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 4:54pm:
Repent what?
Establish prayer to whom?
Pay how much to whom for what reason?


You might like to read chapter 9, Grendel, and stop wasting our time.

It's an interesting discussion on dealing with enemies in a time of war.

Why It's in a spiritual text, I have no idea. FD might be able to tell us.
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Reply #58 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
Chapter 9 is entirely devoted to encouraging Muslims to slaughter the infidel:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469837313

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:33am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm:
Muzzos preach death, destruction and murder.



Ah.

Have you and Sprint converted to Islam?



Muhammad killed, destroyed and murdered. According to Muslims and the Koran, he is the best example for all mankind to follow.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them...


According to which Muslims?



According to all of them.

Karnal wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 4:29pm:
You're quoting someone's blog, Y. FD was talking about the Koran. Chapter 9, verse 5, to be precise, which states this:

Quote:
But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.



You realise this is saying to stop slaughtering the infidel when they convert to Islam, don't you Karnal?
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Reply #59 - Oct 10th, 2017 at 8:13pm
 
FD, have you actually read the chapter? It answers your question.

Now stop wasting Grendel's time.
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