Frank wrote on Oct 14
th, 2017 at 9:34am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13
th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 12
th, 2017 at 10:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11
th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 11
th, 2017 at 9:11pm:
So affirmative action is about some trivial, superficial thing?
Nope. It is about correcting the social disadvantage your racism has produced, Soren.
Quote:Same with 'white privilege. We can interfered so there is no need for racial discrimination acts and the whole apparatus of 'black liberation, etc. All trivial nonsense.
Up to the people concerned, Soren. Perhaps you should ask the people who have been disadvantages socially by your "white privilege"?
Well, they were not disadvantaged due to their race as they have NO race.
So how did they get disadvantaged? Please tell us, you must know. You are Bwian, and Bwian KNOWS. It's not race - what then?
Economics. Technology. You know, social things, not Genetic things, Soren.
Quote:And who is going to tell them racially oppressed folks that they are ignorant fools for scientifically speaking, Bwian knows they are all wrong about race?
You can be "racially oppressed" as long as you recognise there is no such thing as the concept of "race" as proclaimed by racists, Soren. Tsk, tsk, you really are being deliberately foolish, now aren't you? Surely you should be thinking about sex, pooh and all those other things that Freud claimed drove our thinking?
So you can be racially oppressive as long as you realise that there is no such thing as race as the basis of oppression. If you are racially oppressive because you DO think there is such a thing as race, you are wrong.
Exactly, Soren, exactly. "Race" is a social construct. Racism grows from that. Bravo, you're finally getting the modern idea about "race" and racism.
Quote:The basis of oppression is not race but economics and technology - socially constructed things. Cultural things. So racism is about mapping evident cultural differences onto evident, immediately visible, smellable, audible 'racial' characteristics.
Well done. People look different because their skin colour/characteristics are different therefore, according to the racists they are Genetically different, when in reality we are all the same (more or less) Genetically. We all share common ancestors and we have evolved from them into the different "races" because of physical separation and adaptation to different physical environments. Well done, you're showing that you can change your thinking if you try hard enough.
Quote:So race is a shothand for the overlap of what you look like and the societies you come from. Whites come from curious, cooperative, accommodating and self-correcting societies. Black Africans tend to come from fractious, dog-eat-dog societies, as do Aborigines, Arabs and others. Their is often written on their sullen, resentful faces. They smell a bit of 'home', they dress like it's still Timbuktu and suck back great gobs of snot in public. Whites who do the same sort of thing are ALSO looked down on as primitive and strange.
No, we all come from curious, cooperative, accommodating societies. It is when warped thinking, created by racists who are more interested in emphasising the differences than the similarities, that racism appears.
Quote:The non-whites who assimilate to 'white' culture tend to be open-faced, engaging, well-spoken, clean and pleasant to be around. Their 'race' is pretty irrelevant even though we can still see that they don't need as much suntan lotion as the honkies.
No, that is racist thinking, Soren, which I am sure you are well aware of. Tsk, tsk. So much hope, dashed on the rocks of your racism...
Quote:Did I get it? Race is about culture. That's why cultural assimilation is the best response to 'racism'. So don't come to the other end of the world and still live like you haven't left Timbuktu because people will treat you like you belong THERE and not here.
No, only racists will, Soren. Tsk, tsk.
So aborigines are just humans like us all and deserve no special treatment hey Brian? No races hey?