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Reply #60 - Oct 6th, 2017 at 9:25pm
 
Did he say marriages to be anal?
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Reply #61 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 12:06pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
You kiddies do understand that today you don't have to get married to have sex right?

Back to the monastry with you...  self flagellation for all those impure thoughts eh.


And you understand that traditional marriage is traditional marriage, G. If you're chopping and changing then I can too.
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Reply #62 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 12:08pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 6:49pm:
Auggie wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 5th, 2017 at 5:12pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 4th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Auggie wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 9:38pm:
Marriage is only valid when:

- you are married in a religious institution with the first person with whom you were engaged.
- you have only had sex with your wife/husband, which act has resulted in the birth of children.
- you have children.
- and you die still married to that person.

Any other marriage consumed under any other circumstances is not marriage and should not be legally recognized.

Q.E.D.



Thats exactly right
Surely those people supporting "traditional" marriage aren't cherry picking what "traditional" means


Thats me.
One wife for life.
3 kids, 6 grandkids


Not quite, Valkie.

Ever made love to your wife with contraception?


What a wank ....  that's what should have happened to you .... shot on the sheets.

A good f*&# wasted.


And no sound, reasoned argumentation? Typical gnads using ad hominem arguments.
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Reply #63 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 9:59pm
 
Auggie wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
You kiddies do understand that today you don't have to get married to have sex right?

Back to the monastry with you...  self flagellation for all those impure thoughts eh.


And you understand that traditional marriage is traditional marriage, G. If you're chopping and changing then I can too.

I don't think YOU understand anything about this Auggie.
Clearly everything you write points to that.
My argument hasn't changed 1 little bit...  your inability to grasp that and continuously creating strawmen and lying about me proves that. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #64 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 10:23pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Oct 7th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 6th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
You kiddies do understand that today you don't have to get married to have sex right?

Back to the monastry with you...  self flagellation for all those impure thoughts eh.


And you understand that traditional marriage is traditional marriage, G. If you're chopping and changing then I can too.

I don't think YOU understand anything about this Auggie.
Clearly everything you write points to that.
My argument hasn't changed 1 little bit...  your inability to grasp that and continuously creating strawmen and lying about me proves that. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I think you're opinion and reasoning on traditional marriage is clear, G.

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Reply #65 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:59am
 
No you don't....
You don't know me or have any real idea.
You keep writing the crap floating around in your head.

Perhaps you should try flushing it more regularly. Roll Eyes
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Reply #66 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:27pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 11:59am:
No you don't....
You don't know me or have any real idea.
You keep writing the crap floating around in your head.

Perhaps you should try flushing it more regularly. Roll Eyes


I know you, G. I know you're anti freedom and anti equality before the law. You're an autocrat.
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Reply #67 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:55pm
 
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
steeerriiiiiike 3.....  your outa here Cheesy
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Reply #68 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
steeerriiiiiike 3.....  your outa here Cheesy


Denying a minority the right to engage in a contractual relationship - that violates the principle of 'equality before the law.'

You don't believe in 'equality before the law', do you?
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Reply #69 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm
 
Auggie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
steeerriiiiiike 3.....  your outa here Cheesy


Denying a minority the right to engage in a contractual relationship - that violates the principle of 'equality before the law.'

You don't believe in 'equality before the law', do you?



All sorts of minorities are excluded from all sorts of laws. And gays are not denied the right to engage in a constractual relationship. They are even allowed to marry.  They already have the right to marry any other gays of the opposite sex. They can have a civil contractual partnership with gays of the same sex.
They are just not allowed to claim to be BOTH majority and minority, to claim to be the same as heterosexuals. They have fought for decades to be recognised as different to straights - to be gay, bent, queer, etc - but now they demand that we ignore that very difference they have fought to be recognised by.



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Reply #70 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
All sorts of minorities are excluded from all sorts of laws


Such as?

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
They can have a civil contractual partnership with gays of the same sex.


So, they can have a 'second-class' contractual partnership, but not a 'first-class' one? We shouldn't have segregation of civil relationship laws.

Either everyone can get married, or everyone can get civil unions. You can't pick or choose.

I'm willing to abolish legal marriage, and institute legal civil unions, and leave marriage up to religious institutions. Are you?
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Reply #71 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
Auggie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
steeerriiiiiike 3.....  your outa here Cheesy


Denying a minority the right to engage in a contractual relationship - that violates the principle of 'equality before the law.'

You don't believe in 'equality before the law', do you?



All sorts of minorities are excluded from all sorts of laws. And gays are not denied the right to engage in a constractual relationship. They are even allowed to marry.  They already have the right to marry any other gays of the opposite sex. They can have a civil contractual partnership with gays of the same sex.
They are just not allowed to claim to be BOTH majority and minority, to claim to be the same as heterosexuals. They have fought for decades to be recognised as different to straights - to be gay, bent, queer, etc - but now they demand that we ignore that very difference they have fought to be recognised by.





Gawd Sore End, really!

Social Edict:

Poof:  I want to be recognised as different but as human as everyone is.

Sore End:  Different people may not drink milk.

Gays:  We want to drink milk.

Society:  We recognise you as human.

Gays:  So, may I drink milk.

Society:  (Let's see.)

Sore End:  You can't be human and drink milk.  I don't 'loik' it.
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Re: Marriages to be annulled
Reply #72 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm
 
Auggie wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
All sorts of minorities are excluded from all sorts of laws


Such as?


Siblings who want to marry, can't. Citizens of other countries can't sit in Parliament. The blind can't get a driver's licence. And so on.



Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
They can have a civil contractual partnership with gays of the same sex.


So, they can have a 'second-class' contractual partnership, but not a 'first-class' one? We shouldn't have segregation of civil relationship laws.

Either everyone can get married, or everyone can get civil unions. You can't pick or choose.

I'm willing to abolish legal marriage, and institute legal civil unions, and leave marriage up to religious institutions. Are you? [/quote]


Is it first class to be normal, heterosexual? Marriage is about the heterosexual nature of our species. That's what it has always been and everyone understood that, until 10 minutes ago.

Homosexuals are not just an alternative to heterosexuals, but as far as the species and societies are concerned, a complete dead end.

The churches sanctify marriage but you can marry without ever going to church (so it is not an exclusively religious institution).  It is an exclusively heterosexual institution. That is the universal common thread across cultures and times.

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Reply #73 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:02pm
 
He's a bit thick Frank and continually makes things up to argue strawmen he creates.
The Prog Left do it all the time, they make up something then claim victory... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

oh well it makes them happy.

I've asked about the Equality thing here and all I get from them is the usual trolling and ridicule and attempts to destroy a perfectly good topic...  can't have that now can we? Roll Eyes
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Reply #74 - Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:06pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
I've asked about the Equality thing here


You'll never be equal to the rest of us.

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