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Reply #105 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm
 
Isn't funny, we would accept racial segregation even if facilities and resources were exactly equal, yet many are willing to accept marriage segregation.
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Reply #106 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 10:37pm
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 6:14am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:43am:
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 7:52am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Siblings who want to marry, can't.


First of all, 'siblings' aren't a minority in the same way as homosexual people are. And frankily, I think that's actually wrong; if siblings want to get married, they should be allowed to.

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Citizens of other countries can't sit in Parliament.


In this case, this applies to ALL foreign citizens. We haven't said 'oh, only citizens of America can sit in Parliament but not citizens of Japan. It applies to all citizens, so the law is consistent: all or nothing.

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
The blind can't get a driver's licence.


This is silly example. Blind people driving is about public liability and the risk of causing death. SSM marriage doesn't cause anyone harm.

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Is it first class to be normal, heterosexual? Marriage is about the heterosexual nature of our species. That's what it has always been and everyone understood that, until 10 minutes ago.


The reason why marriage is about the 'heterosexual' nature of the species as you claim is because of the expectation that marriage will lead to the birth of children, right? Therefore, you also need to agree that heterosexual marriages that DON'T lead to the birth of children should not be considered marriage.

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
Homosexuals are not just an alternative to heterosexuals, but as far as the species and societies are concerned, a complete dead end.


As I stated above, and as you have mentioned below, marriage is a legal institution - a contract between two consenting adults. The legal institution doesn't have any other condition, other than the consent of both individuals. It doesn't matter what about the 'alternative' or whether they are a 'dead-end' as you have said.

Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2017 at 6:33pm:
The churches sanctify marriage but you can marry without ever going to church (so it is not an exclusively religious institution).  It is an exclusively heterosexual institution. That is the universal common thread across cultures and times.


So, if we recognize marriages without going to church, then we should recognize same-sex marriages. If non-religious people can get married, then same-sex couples should be allowed to as well.

Again, marriage was exclusively a heterosexual institution because it was expected that people procreate, which was their 'social duty'. Today, no such expectation exists, and less and less people are procreating, so the prerequisite for marriage is no longer valid.

You want to be stupid so I  can't  really help you.

Procreation is an essential part of every society and so it is institutionalised in every society. But even without every married couple procreating, we are STILL a species made up of men and women. So every society has an interest in formalizing the relationship between the sexes, so women and girls are protected, men and boys are harnessed and anchored, the two sexes, complementing each other, are brought together to form a bridge between generations, whether they have their own kids or not. No society has any interest in formali sing homosexual relationships because they are defective and irrelevant to society. At best they are tolerated, at worst they are purged.

Homosexual relationships are a dead end in the broad sense as well as the narrow one of procreation. Homosexuals do not bring the sexes together, they do not complement each other, they do not create a microcosm in which the broader society and it's norms, values, interpersonal relations are fully and importantly created and reflected.

If there were no homosexuals, nothing would change. If there were no heterosexuals, everything would change and we would quickly disappear. That difference must not be ignored or downplayed by idiotic non-arguments like yours.






You seem to be implying that homosexuals are going to increase exponentially in number and will take over the world, thereby resulting in the extinction of the human race.
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Oh, please don't  be a complete idiot. Where do I 'seem to be implying' any such complete idiocy? It is entirely your own stupid invention.
If you do not understand what I posted then ask but don't make up Bwianesque crap. Unless that is all you are here to do.



You were the one that played the biology/procreation card.

If they're not going to effect the continuation of the human race, then who cares?

'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)
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Reply #107 - Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm
 
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'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.



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Reply #108 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:27am
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Isn't funny, we would accept racial segregation even if facilities and resources were exactly equal, yet many are willing to accept marriage segregation.

I accept that Football is Football and Tennis is Tennis...  how about you? Cheesy
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Reply #109 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 6:32am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:56pm:
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Granting them the right to marry does not demean 'traditional marriage' but it strengthens marriage as a whole. Same-sex couples are just as able to be committed to each other as heterosexual couples, and by having more committed people married, this would actually make marriage more meaningful.


This of course is just more deluded rubbish.

Since when is ANAL SEX the same as sex that creates life?
How can same sex couples create life together and so create a real family made up of children that are the progeny of both?


You're a complete idiot. What if a man bangs his wife/partner with a condom and doesn't result in knocking her up? Is that ok? Is that equivalent to anal sex?




Yes, he most certainly is.

He doesn't realise that heterosexuals have about as much anal sex as gay men.

He doesn't realise that lesbians (half of all gays) don't have anal sex at all.

And, he doesn't realise that heterosexual couples have oral sex all the time, which doesn't result in children.

Why these ignorant buffoons need to discuss children, and anal sex, in the SSM debate is anyone's guess   Roll Eyes

YOU KEEP TELLING YOURSELF TAT GWEGGY IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL EQUAL...
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Reply #110 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:34am
 
So Auggie how has the human race been sustained and continued to grow population wise?

Gays? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Bigger cabbage patches?
More Storks?

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Reply #111 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
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'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.
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Reply #112 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 9:01am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
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'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Hard to believe that such ignorance still exists in this country, in 2017.

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Reply #113 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 10:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
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'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Hard to believe that such ignorance still exists in this country, in 2017.




Oh? Have I missed the latest directive on the korrekt  nomenclature? https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/
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Reply #114 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 10:13am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 10:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
Quote:
'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Hard to believe that such ignorance still exists in this country, in 2017.




Oh? Have I missed the latest directive on the korrekt  nomenclature? https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/


Judging by that post, I'd say you missed an education.

Sad.
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Reply #115 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 1:25pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:27am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
Isn't funny, we would accept racial segregation even if facilities and resources were exactly equal, yet many are willing to accept marriage segregation.

I accept that Football is Football and Tennis is Tennis...  how about you? Cheesy


Still haven't answered the question...

How about you do?
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Reply #116 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 1:26pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:34am:
So Auggie how has the human race been sustained and continued to grow population wise?

Gays? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Bigger cabbage patches?
More Storks?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


And it will continue to grow notwithstanding same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriage has no impact on procreation. The majority will continue to be heterosexual. We will still be a society of men and women.
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Reply #117 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
Quote:
'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Children will say that they have 2 dads, or 2 mums. What's the big deal?
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Reply #118 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
Quote:
'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Children will say that they have 2 dads, or 2 mums. What's the big deal?

Er... it's a fake, 2 dads. Where's mum? How did 2 dads  make the little guy?
What a terrible thing to put on a little person out of sheer vanity.
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Reply #119 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 2:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 10:13am:
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 10:07am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 9:01am:
Frank wrote on Oct 13th, 2017 at 8:59am:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 11:31pm:
Quote:
'Procreation card's, Bwian?  Really? Like it's  a furphy that we ARE a species made up heterosexual men and women?

The socialization of boys and girls is a furphy? The social, cultural bridging of of generations is a furphy?

You can't  be so stupi d as to ignore all these things across the ages for the new slogan of love is love (How dam BANAL can you go?)


We have been and always will be a society of men and women; same-sex marriage doesn't and won't change this. Heterosexuals will continue to be the majority, and the human race will continue to procreate.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry no more affects the institution of marriage and society any more than capitalism affects society, or how pornography affects people.

You might wake in the morning on the day after the Parliament has passed the law, and feel that your marriage is no longer what it was.

And that would be your problem.... And no one else's.

Same-sex marriage doesn't affect you. As to how it affects society, everything affects society, so let's ban everything, institute a totalitarian state with Kim Jong-UN as the Dear Leader because he knows best - after all he discovered DNA, and can apparently walk on water??? Because we would all be so much better off if we just all shut-up and listened to you, Frank.




When two blokes marry, which one is the wife? If they adopt kids, who will be the mother?
What will the kids say to their friends?  'Bwian is me mum's?

It is a farcical notion. Its like slapstick, SSM.


Hard to believe that such ignorance still exists in this country, in 2017.




Oh? Have I missed the latest directive on the korrekt  nomenclature? https://uwm.edu/lgbtrc/support/gender-pronouns/


Judging by that post, I'd say you missed an education.

Sad.

Cheesy

A virtue-signalling, vain turd! I don't  read the Star Observer, turdy. Tell us the latest korrekt thinking.
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