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Re: shooting in Las Vegas
Reply #120 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
[quote author=Herbert link=1506928254/112#112 date=1507005241]So!

Let's now ask [b]WHY[/b] ...

1. It took over an hour to get the police to be at the assailant's door.


2. [b]WHY[/b] in such a crowded place as the Vegas Strip with its hotels and casinos crowded around it NO measures had been taken to ensure a heavily-armed permanent militia was on hand 24/7 to respond to a terrorist threat?

Heads will roll - and for good reason.

The Keystone Kops did the best they could under the circumstances, but what was obviously missing were in-house 27/4 heavily-armed squads in every hotel and casino along the Strip. It's not as though those places couldn't afford it.

There'll be heaps of sackings over this.

It was highly predictable that the Strip would eventually be targetted by a nutter.

An armed squad should have been able to access the 32nd floor in minutes, and neutralise the assailant. Not rocket science.

Every one of these hotels and casinos have a score of security staff in their employ ~ but not even half-a-dozen others specifically fitted out and armed to respond to a situation like this.

Pathetic.

Even a rocket-launcher from outside at the widow would have cancelled this nutter's ticket.

I hope a Class Action is mounted against the Mandalay Hotel for its dereliction of duty and its slack security response.

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Heads will roll: why it happened is because of the tedium of decadence and the observed lack of security is just western world penny-pinching at its best!


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Reply #121 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:02pm
 
a woman warned that they were all going to die 45 . mins before the shots rang out..

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Reply #122 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:25pm
 
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In recent months Paddock sent tens of thousands of dollars to a person in the Philippines.


now go look up ISIS in the Philippines...

there are also Reports that this guy had a heap of ANTIFA material as well..

ANTIFA have been calling for civil war..... specifically on the 4th of November...

also being supported by people like that fat pieceOshit Michael Moore.... also being funded by people like Soros, Clintons, Obama along with BLM...
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Reply #123 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:26pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 9:23am:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 9:12am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 8:55am:
No murders in Bristol Rhode Island for over 17 years it makes it safer than any city in Australia.
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Bristol-Rhode-Island.html

3 murders in Punta Gorda in the last 17 years, safer than Australia.
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Punta-Gorda-Florida.html

Well, that's 2 towns covered... only nearly 20,000 others to check out!


The 2 cities I visited, safer than anywhere in Australia



Perhaps the most pointless argument you could make and as obviously biased as you could be.

So do you - as a gunlover/gunmasturbator - yet see the connection between gun deaths and... guns?

Its okay if you dont. The majority of americans dont quite understand that guns kill people until people they know are killed by guns.

I used to have sympathy for them, but now I dont. The NRA will come up with some stupid argument that if everyone had guns this wouldnt happen although how a street gun is going to get up so high  to get this shooter is a rather foolish question. Maybe everyone should be allowed to carry sniper rifles or perhaps mortar rounds? That would have worked, right?

Americans... stupid one day, shot to death the next.
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Reply #124 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:30pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:34pm:
So!

Let's now ask WHY ...

1. It took over an hour to get the police to be at the assailant's door.


2. WHY in such a crowded place as the Vegas Strip with its hotels and casinos crowded around it NO measures had been taken to ensure a heavily-armed permanent militia was on hand 24/7 to respond to a terrorist threat?

Heads will roll - and for good reason.

The Keystone Kops did the best they could under the circumstances, but what was obviously missing were in-house 27/4 heavily-armed squads in every hotel and casino along the Strip. It's not as though those places couldn't afford it.

There'll be heaps of sackings over this.

It was highly predictable that the Strip would eventually be targetted by a nutter.

An armed squad should have been able to access the 32nd floor in minutes, and neutralise the assailant. Not rocket science.

Every one of these hotels and casinos have a score of security staff in their employ ~ but not even half-a-dozen others specifically fitted out and armed to respond to a situation like this.

Pathetic.

Even a rocket-launcher from outside at the widow would have cancelled this nutter's ticket.

I hope a Class Action is mounted against the Mandalay Hotel for its dereliction of duty and its slack security response.



yeah because what we want is the distribution of rocket launchers, right.

And having every hotel have an armed response team?  yeah that makes sense because in the last 200 years there has been ONE such incident?

Perhaps a better solution might be not letting every tom dick and psycho have military-grade rifles and ammunition.

But no... what we need are more weapons.



And here in australia we celebrate 21 years without a mass shooting.
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Re: Illegal Shootings in Las Vegas
Reply #125 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:31pm
 
Panther wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 10:43am:
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Panther wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 9:42am:
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Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:32am:
issuevoter wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 6:42am:
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33,000 people die every year from guns in the USA.

That's 90 people per day!

The Yanks need gun control laws now.


Ain't gonna happen.


Unfortunately you are correct!



Yes - 58 people died in Las Vegas & another 90 would have died elsewhere -
Trump won't do anything buy say prayers.



Firstly, he can't do anything but pray for those affected by this illegal use of a firearm (or firearms)......period!

President Trump, along with every governmental representative, every officer of the law, every judge...etc....is  sworn by oath to "..... preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


Their first obligation is to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States in it's entirety......that's first & foremost.....

They must then, by oath, preserve, protect and defend the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

The President is not permitted, by solemn oath, to choose which parts of the Constitution he preserves, protects and defends.......agree or disagree, he must defend it all.

American People will never permit......& the government governs solely by the consent of the American People.....they will never permit their government infringing upon their Constitutional Right to keep & bear arms.

With that said, the weapon or weapons used in this massacre are already banned.......they are already illegal. Laws already exist making the automatic weapon used illegal.

Americans, as should we, already know that they can't legislate sanity......the mentally ill, who are yet to be detected & diagnosed as such, unfortunately don't glow iridescent green.....criminals don't obey the law.....laws are merely words on paper.......& proof of this is the area where the victims were shot, was a "GUN FREE ZONE"......

Freedom & Liberty has a cost......in this case a high one, but life goes on......Americans will overcome their sorrows once again, & march on as they always have......

PS.....in Israel this wouldn't have happened.....all baggage is checked by trained hotel staff before people are permitted to go up to their hotel rooms....

How easy would that have been in Las Vegas?





It seems like you as all those useless politicians like Trump
have got carried away with lofty sounding words
that were written before machine guns were even invented.

Fools - all of you.


How would you have stopped him in Las Vegas? ......see my amended post, which now includes:

In Israel this wouldn't have happened.....all baggage is checked by trained hotel staff before people are permitted to go up to their hotel rooms....



How easy would that have been in Las Vegas?





Not easy at all. Nor would it be effective since he would simply have found some other vantage point. Since he was a psycho prepared to die, you cannot easily protect against them which is why not letting ANYONE have so many guns would have stopped it even more effectively.
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Reply #126 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:41pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:30pm:
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And here in australia we celebrate 21 years without a mass shooting.


Lockhart was a mass shooting ya dopey dim wit
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Reply #127 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:43pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 2:34pm:
So!

Let's now ask WHY ...

1. It took over an hour to get the police to be at the assailant's door.



When seconds count it took the police over an hour to arrive.

When they finally arrived they pumped a few bullets into someone who had already killed himself.
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Reply #128 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:49pm
 
I'm hearing that the way they found which room he was in... was that he set off the smoke alarms from the smoke coming off all of the shots being fired...
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Reply #129 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 5:08pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:49pm:
I'm hearing that the way they found which room he was in... was that he set off the smoke alarms from the smoke coming off all of the shots being fired...


With the sustained full auto firing it's likely the gun was on fire.

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Reply #130 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:10pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:25pm:
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In recent months Paddock sent tens of thousands of dollars to a person in the Philippines.


now go look up ISIS in the Philippines...

there are also Reports that this guy had a heap of ANTIFA material as well..

ANTIFA have been calling for civil war..... specifically on the 4th of November...

also being supported by people like that fat pieceOshit Michael Moore.... also being funded by people like Soros, Clintons, Obama along with BLM...


Good post.

Also ... how can someone in America buy that number of firearms and ammunition without raising suspicions?


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Reply #131 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:26pm:
I used to have sympathy for them, but now I dont. The NRA will come up with some stupid argument that if everyone had guns this wouldnt happen although how a street gun is going to get up so high  to get this shooter is a rather foolish question. Maybe everyone should be allowed to carry sniper rifles or perhaps mortar rounds? That would have worked, right?

Americans... stupid one day, shot to death the next.


I agree.

The problem is America's NRA has huge funds in reserve to help fund the presidential campaigns of those who agree to preserve the Second Amendment.

Live by the gun, die by the gun.


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Reply #132 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:22pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:10pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 4:25pm:
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In recent months Paddock sent tens of thousands of dollars to a person in the Philippines.


now go look up ISIS in the Philippines...

there are also Reports that this guy had a heap of ANTIFA material as well..

ANTIFA have been calling for civil war..... specifically on the 4th of November...

also being supported by people like that fat pieceOshit Michael Moore.... also being funded by people like Soros, Clintons, Obama along with BLM...


Good post.

Also ... how can someone in America buy that number of firearms and ammunition without raising suspicions?




Maybe he bought them on the black market?
America is flooded with guns.
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Reply #133 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:30pm
 
This shooter planned this in cold blood in the same way as did Norway's Anders Breivik.

It wasn't generated by emotional factors but in the cause of some conviction that such an act would win him the approval of a religious or political group for which he was willing to martyr himself.

Everything points to him having acted on behalf of Filipino Muslim terrorists.



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Reply #134 - Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 3rd, 2017 at 7:30pm:
This shooter planned this in cold blood in the same way as did Norway's Anders Breivik.

It wasn't generated by emotional factors but in the cause of some conviction that such an act would win him the approval of a religious or political group for which he was willing to martyr himself.

Everything points to him having acted on behalf of Filipino Muslim terrorists.


And what makes you think that, Herbie?   ISIS has claimed responsibility, despite there being no obvious linkage between this man and that group.  There is even less linkage to the Filipino Muslim Terrorists.

You'll have to try harder than that with your trolling, old man.  You're falling down on the job...   Roll Eyes
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