gandalf wrote:
Quote:And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." 18:29
So remind, [O Muhammad]; you are only a reminder. You are not over them a controller. 88:22-23
For goodness sake gandi what are you on about?
88.10 - 20: In a lofty Paradise. Where they shall neither hear harmful speech nor falsehood, Therein will be a running spring, Therein will be thrones raised high,And cups set at hand. And cushions set in rows, And rich carpets (all) spread out. Do they not look at the camels, how they are created? And at the heaven, how it is raised? And at the mountains, how they are rooted and fixed firm? And at the earth, how it is spread out?
Clearly talking about muslims who have gone to paradise, not about the kafir.
Then
88.21 - 22: So remind them (O Muhammad ), you are only a one who reminds. You are not a dictator over them.
Unambiguously says muhammad is a reminder to these muslims not a dictator.
However the very next verse get to the point
88.23:
Save the one who turns away and disbelieves
Save being the pertinent word gandalf, in this case it means apart from, except, excluding, with the exception of.
So the qur'an is telling muslims they are reminders and not dictators over people except disbelievers.
18.29. And say: "The truth is from your Lord." Then whosoever wills, let him believe, and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve. Verily, We have prepared for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers, etc.), a Fire whose walls will be surrounding them (disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah). And if they ask for help (relief, water, etc.) they will be granted water like boiling oil, that will scald their faces. Terrible the drink, and an evil Murtafaqa (dwelling, resting place, etc.)!
Now there is nothing but hatred for the disbeliever in either of your examples in fact:
Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah
is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia.
A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves.
Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly. would be the rule of thumb for muslims in this case, your examples are all about hating the unbeliever nothing more nothing less.