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BigOl64
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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 29 th, 2017 at 3:29pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 29 th, 2017 at 7:46am: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 28 th, 2017 at 7:10pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 28 th, 2017 at 6:46pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27 th, 2017 at 2:06pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 27 th, 2017 at 9:00am: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26 th, 2017 at 7:38pm: Until the next minor offence causes them to drop their bundle like a bunch of spoilt children. We're only nice to them in the hope they stop slaughtering all the non-muslims in the countries they have invaded since we facilitated their independence. We are seen as weak by these mussie psychopaths, because we are, we let them kill anyone at anytime without any repercussions. We are indonesia's lap dog and they know it.  We are nice to them because they are our nearest neighbours and of course, if we weren't nice to them, then the claims that the boats had been stopped would be shown to be a lie. Their malcontents and extremists would be allowed to run rife and of course, we could become their targets, just as much as they are. So, all in all, we both profit from good relations. Those who feel that we should have bad relations, simply because they are Muslim obviously aren't going to be the ones on the two way rifle range that develops.  It is a very unequal relationship, one where we are the obsequious boot licks constantly seeking to not offend our masters. But if you come from weakness then you are treated with contempt by your 'betters', something we have done for decades and don't know any better. Australia is much stronger than Indonesia. We are about equal in the active sizes of our Armies, our Navy and Air Force are both larger and better equipped than theirs. Overall, we have more money than they do and we have our "great and power friends across the Pacific" to help back us (if they see fit to). Your fears about Indonesia are unfounded and are based more about fears of the Yellow Peril than on anything the Indonesians have done or threatened to do in the last 60 years. Nothing I have stated shows I have any fear of fkking Indonesian, so fkk knows where you get that stupid idea from. I am more than aware of our operational air power and its capabilities, so no need to spell it out for me. And yet you do act as if you fear Indonesia... Quote:I have stated that our government is weak as p1ss when it comes to dealing with indonesia and always kow tows to them whenever there is a problem. The indons knows we are weak and treat us with the contempt we so richly deserve.
They need to see us as equals if not their betters, not as their lap dogs, as they do now.
No, we need to treat them as equals, not subordinates, BigOl64. They are a sovereign nation and ultimately, an insecure one at that. They treat everybody with contempt because that covers up their fears and insecurities. We are no threat to them and they know that, so their domestic media does as it likes, when it likes. Remember, they have a free media, just as we do. Our media stokes the fire of dislike and disrespect just as readily, when it suits Mr. Murdoch. Our Governments however have warmed to each other. One of the smartest things Howard ever did was provide a billion dollars in aid after the Boxing Day Tsunami. They have been in our debt ever since. "Face" is a big concept with many Asians and they know if they piss us off enough, they will lose it in a big way. I don't think you can tell the difference between fear of indonesia and contempt for the government of Australia, they are different, very fkken different. There is absolutely no reason what so ever for me to fear indoneasia. There is every reason for me to be contemptuous of how Australia behaves when dealing with indonesia. I would love to have a situation where we are equals, but every act by Australia and indonesia indicates it is not even close. They control the relationship and we follow like dogs.
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