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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #15 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Who said I ever worshipped Islam, Soren? Oh, thats right, the Islamophobes when they attack anybody who dares to question their bigotry and persecution of Muslims. What ever happened to "the fair go", Soren? I know you're not an Aussie so I expect you'll never understand that bit about the Australian psyche. Roll Eyes

Did I ask you if you worshipped it? No.

I asked 'what is to like about Islam'.

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #16 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:49pm

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Who said I ever worshipped Islam, Soren? Oh, thats right, the Islamophobes when they attack anybody who dares to question their bigotry and persecution of Muslims. What ever happened to "the fair go", Soren? I know you're not an Aussie so I expect you'll never understand that bit about the Australian psyche. Roll Eyes

Did I ask you if you worshipped it? No.

I asked 'what is to like about Islam'.

Really and then you followed it up with the highlighted statement, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #17 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Who said I ever worshipped Islam, Soren? Oh, thats right, the Islamophobes when they attack anybody who dares to question their bigotry and persecution of Muslims. What ever happened to "the fair go", Soren? I know you're not an Aussie so I expect you'll never understand that bit about the Australian psyche. Roll Eyes

Did I ask you if you worshipped it? No.

I asked 'what is to like about Islam'.

Really and then you followed it up with the highlighted statement, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Well, what is it about Islam that you allow into your own life?

I reject it all and that makes me an 'Islamophobe'. You must value some of it to be different from me. So what is it that you value about Islam and allow into your life as a positive?

Or are you an Islamophobe like me and reject it all?

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #18 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:26pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Nothing that I am consciously aware of.....same thing about Christianity with which I have had far more contact/connection.

Why do you stand up for something - Islam - that has nothing positive or good about it?

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #19 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Who said I ever worshipped Islam, Soren? Oh, thats right, the Islamophobes when they attack anybody who dares to question their bigotry and persecution of Muslims. What ever happened to "the fair go", Soren? I know you're not an Aussie so I expect you'll never understand that bit about the Australian psyche. Roll Eyes

Did I ask you if you worshipped it? No.

I asked 'what is to like about Islam'.

Really and then you followed it up with the highlighted statement, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Well, what is it about Islam that you allow into your own life?

Not much, Soren but that isn't the point, now is it? I don't go out of my way to persecute innocent Muslims who have committed no other crime than worship in their own way. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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I reject it all and that makes me an 'Islamophobe'. You must value some of it to be different from me. So what is it that you value about Islam and allow into your life as a positive?

Or are you an Islamophobe like me and reject it all?

I reject nothing, Soren. I am not an Islamophobe, nor am I necessarily an Islamophile, either. I merely allow others to do what they want, within Australian law. I believe in giving everybody, even you, a "fair go". If they condemn themselves through their speech or their actions, then they condemn themselves, Soren. If they don't and they act perfectly peacefully and work within the Australian community, then good on them.

You, OTOH, condemn them for merely having a different belief system to yourself. You persecute them at every turn, no matter how innocent they are. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #20 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Nothing that I am consciously aware of.....same thing about Christianity with which I have had far more contact/connection.

Why do you stand up for something - Islam - that has nothing positive or good about it?

You will never find me 'standing up for' any

religion

, including Islam.

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #21 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:44pm

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

What is to like about Islam?

Mother, bwian, karnal, arsie, ganndalf - tell us what is positive and good about Islam that you embrace and allow into your lives.

Nothing that I am consciously aware of.....same thing about Christianity with which I have had far more contact/connection.

Why do you stand up for something - Islam - that has nothing positive or good about it?

In your opinion but your opinion is based upon Islamophobia, Soren. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #22 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:48pm

ONCE MORE, WITH FEELING......

There are NO moderate moslems.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

A moderate moslem is a 'fantastical' creature.

It does not exist. !!

Dictionary;
fantastic = = imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality.

HEY, LISTEN UP!!!!!

There are no 'innocent' moslems, in Australia.

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

Every moslem has chosen, and continues to choose, to give his allegiance to ISLAM.

THAT, is what a moslem is. !!!!

Mainstream ISLAM is a vile, murderous death cult.

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/21#21
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Why should moslems, in Australia, enjoy the rights and freedoms that are extended to other Australians ?

They should not.

Moslems are not Australians.

By that, i mean that the allegiance of 'the moslem', is not to Australia.

The allegiance of 'the moslem', is to the nation of ISLAM [the ummah, the moslem community].

Moslems are moslems.

The allegiance of 'the moslem', is to ISLAM, EXCLUSIVELY.

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484778259/3#3
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Moslems are not Australians.

Even moslems living in Australia, who have secured Australian citizenship, are not Australians.

Why so ?

The allegiance and loyalty of the moslem, is to ISLAM exclusively.

Any moslem who denies that, is a FILTHY STINKING, LYING, DECEITFUL moslem.

Study declared ISLAMIC doctrine.

It confirms that the loyalty of the moslem must always be to ISLAM, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd!

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Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah."

By definition, every moslem is a follower of ISLAM.

And is a supporter of what ISLAMIC law endorses, promotes, and encourages.

When moslems are not murdering 'disbelievers', they are lying to 'disbelievers'.

When moslems are not murdering Aussies ['disbelievers'], moslems are pretending, that ISLAM teaches peace and tolerance.

All moslems [followers of ISLAM] are liars,
and all moslems are latent homicidal maniacs.
[....the many unguarded comments of the followers of ISLAM attest to these truths]

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"ISLAM ES PAZ"

IMAGE.....

And pigs might fly - in Barcelona.

Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off

Q.
Who are you going to believe ?

Me ?

Or a deceitful, latent wanna-be, HOMICIDAL MANIAC!

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where are the moderate Muslims?
Reply #23 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:51pm

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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