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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	About the New Zealand Election... Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:37pm Labour Lost... the End...
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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #1 - Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm Julie Bishop was right... even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments... the people saw this and left them in opposition...
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #2 - Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10312 Gender:	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #3 - Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:57pm All those people got out and voted voluntarily - can't believe it hehe! Makes our Libs and Labs look like mongrel dictators
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #4 - Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 10:19pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

So Labour won the unpopular vote.......Go home you are drunk.

Kiwi's saw thru the promises of Free everything and savec themselves from massive taxi ncreases, new taxes, stamp duties, capital gains taxes and water taxes.....seems the dumbest people on earth live here in Australia.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57172 Here Gender:	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #5 - Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 10:22pm Quote: About the New Zealand Election... Did Baaarnaby stand ???? he would be a great minister for sheep as well as looking after small dog execution.
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #6 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:29am

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

So Labour won the unpopular vote.......Go home you are drunk.

Kiwi's saw thru the promises of Free everything and savec themselves from massive taxi ncreases, new taxes, stamp duties, capital gains taxes and water taxes.....seems the dumbest people on earth live here in Australia.

I reckon , fancy giving libtards a second term Roll Eyes

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #7 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:57am do KIWIS in OZ vote
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #8 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:01am

Its time wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:29am:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

So Labour won the unpopular vote.......Go home you are drunk.

Kiwi's saw thru the promises of Free everything and savec themselves from massive taxi ncreases, new taxes, stamp duties, capital gains taxes and water taxes.....seems the dumbest people on earth live here in Australia.

I reckon , fancy giving libtards a second term Roll Eyes

Did you go to school moron?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95485 Melbourne Gender:	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #9 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:06am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:37pm: Labour Lost... the End... Labor could still govern if they join with the Greens & Winston Peters. However - Winston is more likely to join up with the National party.
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #10 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:09am

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:01am:

Its time wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:29am:

Rider wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

So Labour won the unpopular vote.......Go home you are drunk.

Kiwi's saw thru the promises of Free everything and savec themselves from massive taxi ncreases, new taxes, stamp duties, capital gains taxes and water taxes.....seems the dumbest people on earth live here in Australia.

I reckon , fancy giving libtards a second term Roll Eyes

Did you go to school moron?

dont get upset f.b.. leftards cant bare seeing another country prosper under the right...

they like mayhem and discontent strikes and division......not forgetting boat people... Wink

labor govt NZ and OZ means happy boat people..

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: About the New Zealand Election... Reply #11 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:15am cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:57am: do KIWIS in OZ vote Yes. Plus the Germans in Oz get to vote. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberras-new-zealand-and-german-citize...
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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #12 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:22am

Neferti wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 8:15am:

cods wrote on Sep 24^th, 2017 at 7:57am:

do KIWIS in OZ vote

Yes. Plus the Germans in Oz get to vote.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberras-new-zealand-and-german-citize...

so they would still be counting postals as we have more NZers here than they have at home so I am told...not forgetting those on Christmas Island...

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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #13 - Sep 24^th, 2017 at 10:43am

Aussie wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2017 at 9:41pm:

Julie Bishop was right...

even NZ Labour are untrustworthy scum who can't work with other World Governments...

the people saw this and left them in opposition...

Not correct. That Nats won the popular vote...but may not form Government. That will not be known for at least a week or so.

That depends on NZ First. They could choose to give the Nationals another term in power, or could form a bloc with Labour and the Greens.

Approximate seat numbers:

Nationals 58
Labour 45
NZ First 9
Greens 7
ACT NZ 1

Nationals + ACT + NZ First = 68
Labour + Greens + NZ First = 61

NZ First have supported both major NZ parties in the past. I expect they will give support to the Nationals this time.

And people whined like banshees after the hung parliament of the 2010 Australian Federal election required a lot of negotiation to form government. Roll Eyes

That kind of negotiation occurs after almost every New Zealand election.

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Re: About the New Zealand Election...
Reply #14 - Sep 25^th, 2017 at 3:44pm

Does anyone know how the Kiwi voting system works?

Anyone?

No, no.

Caesar scores again....
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NZ has a system of proportional representation (i.e. seats are allocated to each party according to the percentage of votes received by the electors), according to a manner of mixed-member proportional representation.

This means:

1) there are 2 classes of MPs - approx. 60% of the members are elected to single-member electorates; whilst the remaining 40% are 'additional members' (if any) allocated to each party based on the vote.

2) electors cast two votes: one for their local candidate and the second for the party. The second vote is more important as it determines the relative strength of parties in the House of Representatives.

3) let's say there are 100 seats: Party A wins 40 single-member seats, but gets 51% of the vote. Party A will receive 11 additional members (from the 40%), resulting in 51 seats in total.

4) if a party wins more single-member seats than the total percentage of votes received, then the House of Reps is further increased by such number so that other parties get their share of seats.
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Advantages:

1) Creates a multi-party system without fracturing the House too much (i.e. usually 3 or 4 parties maximum).

2) Voters have alternatives to contact members other than their local candidate.

Disadvantages:

1) creates two classes of members - voters might be confused

2) doesn't create stable government.

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