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Sep 23rd, 2017 at 12:39am
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/21/politics/kim-jong-un-on-trump-comments/index.h...


Hours later, Kim's foreign minister told reporters in New York that Pyongyang could launch a nuclear missile test in response.

"This could probably mean the strongest
hydrogen bomb test over the Pacific Ocean.



Regarding which measures to take, I don't really know since it is what Kim Jong Un does," said Ri.
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Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 12:45am
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/22/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test-pacific-explaine...

CNN)North Korea just intimated that it

may test a nuclear weapon somewhere above the Pacific Ocean.


If Pyongyang follows through on the threat, it would be the first nuclear weapon detonated in the atmosphere in decades.
The threat risks escalating an already volatile situation, and comes after US President Donald Trump threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea in a speech to the United Nations.

So how would Pyongyang conduct a nuclear test over the Pacific and what impact would it have?
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Reply #2 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:00am
 
Fatboy Slim-Kim is a laugh. He probably only has one warhead/missile to fire each time. Shoot one, build another and shoot that one.
If China said they are not going to intervene regardless - you watch Fatboy Slim-Kim negotiate for peace asp!
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Reply #3 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:07am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:00am:
Fatboy Slim-Kim is a laugh. He probably only has one warhead/missile to fire each time. Shoot one, build another and shoot that one.
If China said they are not going to intervene regardless - you watch Fatboy Slim-Kim negotiate for peace asp!



He probably only has one warhead/missile to fire each time.



But can Trump afford to take that chance?
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Reply #4 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:12am
 

USA probably has what it takes to knock the first onslaught of any NK missile attack aimed at South Korea or Nihon (Japan) - give or take a few misses. There might be a few impacts.
I'm pretty sure they monitor the trajectory of each missile fired and don't react to the ones going into the sea.
Waste of money if you ask me. Each missile test would cost a fortune.
But if they picked up a missile heading straight for a populated or military destination - then I'm sure it will be on!
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Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:21am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:12am:
USA probably has what it takes to knock the first onslaught of any NK missile attack aimed at South Korea or Nihon (Japan) - give or take a few misses. There might be a few impacts.
I'm pretty sure they monitor the trajectory of each missile fired and don't react to the ones going into the sea.
Waste of money if you ask me. Each missile test would cost a fortune.
But if they picked up a missile heading straight for a populated or military destination - then I'm sure it will be on!



There is always a risk that a nuclear tipped missile could go off course & blow up in the wrong place.
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Reply #6 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:28am
 
I reckon their spy satellites can see more than what the Media is allowed to show. They will see each preparation for launch and thus have jet fighters in the air in readiness.
So if a 'nuke' does go off course and towards a populated target - I wonder if they can blow it up mid-air?

North Korea's only effective weapon is to strike first and unleash everything they have. After that - they have nothing much to offer except half-starved military personnel.

It would be a very quick war.
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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 8:00am
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 1:28am:
I reckon their spy satellites can see more than what the Media is allowed to show. They will see each preparation for launch and thus have jet fighters in the air in readiness.
So if a 'nuke' does go off course and towards a populated target - I wonder if they can blow it up mid-air?

North Korea's only effective weapon is to strike first and unleash everything they have. After that - they have nothing much to offer except half-starved military personnel.

It would be a very quick war.


The international community has done nothing about the over flight of Japan and they are not going to do anything short of an actual nuclear detonation. Trump does not have any options, and little international support. If it comes to war, watch the gutless UN back off and tell the USA they are on their own.

But I doubt the USA would invade NK. An airstrike would cost NK little and gain them a PR victory. All these tests look to be provoking such a strike.

Air superiority would be immediate, but that will not win the war. The terrain is very much in NK's favour. Their army is right on the South Korean capital's door step, while their own country in mountainous which would slow any field campaign.

While a war was dragged out, Kim would claim to be the victim of the big bully USA, and people with leftist sympathies would side with NK as they are notoriously anti-American.


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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 8:03am
 
http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2017/09/22/pyongyang-threatens-h-bomb-test-pacific...

    Statement of Chairman of State Affairs Commission of DPRK

    Pyongyang, September 22 (KCNA) — Respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un, chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the DPRK, released a statement on Thursday.

    The full text of the statement reads:


Kim Jong Un,
  Quote:
 
The speech made by the U.S. president in his maiden address on the UN arena in the prevailing serious circumstances, in which the situation on the Korean peninsula has been rendered tense as never before and is inching closer to a touch-and-go state, is arousing worldwide concern.

    Shaping the general idea of what he would say, I expected he would make stereo-typed, prepared remarks a little different from what he used to utter in his office on the spur of the moment as he had to speak on the world’s biggest official diplomatic stage.

    But, far from making remarks of any persuasive power that can be viewed to be helpful to defusing tension, he made unprecedented rude nonsense one has never heard from any of his predecessors.

    A frightened dog barks louder.

    I’d like to advise Trump to exercise prudence in selecting words and to be considerate of whom he speaks to when making a speech in front of the world.

    The mentally deranged behavior of the U.S. president openly expressing on the UN arena the unethical will to “totally destroy” a sovereign state, beyond the boundary of threats of regime change or overturn of social system, makes even those with normal thinking faculty think about discretion and composure.

    His remarks remind me of such words as “political layman” and “political heretic” which were in vogue in reference to Trump during his presidential election campaign.

    After taking office Trump has rendered the world restless through threats and blackmail against all countries in the world. He is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country, and he is surely a rogue and a gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician.

    His remarks which described the U.S. option through straightforward expression of his will have convinced me, rather than frightening or stopping me, that the path I chose is correct and that it is the one I have to follow to the last.

    Now that Trump has denied the existence of and insulted me and my country in front of the eyes of the world and made the most ferocious declaration of a war in history that he would destroy the DPRK, we will consider with seriousness exercising of a corresponding, highest level of hard-line countermeasure in history.

    Action is the best option in treating the dotard who, hard of hearing, is uttering only what he wants to say.

    As a man representing the DPRK and on behalf of the dignity and honor of my state and people and on my own, I will make the man holding the prerogative of the supreme command in the U.S. pay dearly for his speech calling for totally destroying the DPRK.

    This is not a rhetorical expression loved by Trump.

    I am now thinking hard about what response he could have expected when he allowed such eccentric words to trip off his tongue.

    Whatever Trump might have expected, he will face results beyond his expectation.

    I will surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged U. S. dotard with fire.
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Reply #9 - Sep 23rd, 2017 at 10:55am
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41369329

North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho earlier warned that Pyongyang could test a hydrogen bomb in the Pacific Ocean in response to the US president's threat.

That would demonstrate North Korea's claimed thermonuclear capability as a credible threat.

But the risk of such a move would be very high. It is not certain that missile defence systems in the Pacific could intercept the missile, and the risk of accidentally striking Japan - over which recent tests have flown - could spark a serious conflict.

    How a Pacific nuclear test might happen
    How do you defend against Pyongyang?
    Can the world live with a nuclear North Korea?

Earlier, Mr Kim's comments had prompted swift criticism from the Japanese government.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said in a news conference on Friday: "North Korea's remarks and behaviour are provocative to regional and international security, and they are absolutely unacceptable."
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Rocket man threatens US mainland:



http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/23/asia/north-korea-seismic-activity/index.html


Also Saturday, the North's foreign minister said that Trump
had made a rocket attack on the US mainland more inevitable by insulting the dignity of North Korea.

"None other than Trump himself is on a suicide mission,
" Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said during the general debate at the UN General Assembly.
"In case innocent lives of the US are harmed because of this suicide attack,
Trump will be held totally responsible."
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 6:25am:
Rocket man threatens US mainland:



http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/23/asia/north-korea-seismic-activity/index.html


Also Saturday, the North's foreign minister said that Trump
had made a rocket attack on the US mainland more inevitable by insulting the dignity of North Korea.

"None other than Trump himself is on a suicide mission,
" Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said during the general debate at the UN General Assembly.
"In case innocent lives of the US are harmed because of this suicide attack,
Trump will be held totally responsible."


What dignity ?? The prick is not used to any criticism.He's just some little fat conman with a grade 1 education stealing from and brainwashing his own people just to feather his own nest,  to what ends ??

They should Nuke them all because they are cruel to animals. I won't lose any sleep if that part of the planet is erased. At least the dogs and cats will be left alone and not tortured to a gruesome death. Those people are just f.cked up.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
What dignity ?? The prick is not used to any criticism.He's just some little fat conman with a grade 1 education stealing from and brainwashing his own people just to feather his own nest,  to what ends ??

They should Nuke them all because they are cruel to animals. I won't lose any sleep if that part of the planet is erased. At least the dogs and cats will be left alone and not tortured to a gruesome death. Those people are just f.cked up.



Hi Nail,
I'd like to punch that fat little rocket man dictator in the face 20 times.
He calls his country a democracy - go figure?
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
What dignity ?? The prick is not used to any criticism.He's just some little fat conman with a grade 1 education stealing from and brainwashing his own people just to feather his own nest,  to what ends ??

They should Nuke them all because they are cruel to animals. I won't lose any sleep if that part of the planet is erased. At least the dogs and cats will be left alone and not tortured to a gruesome death. Those people are just f.cked up.



Hi Nail,
I'd like to punch that fat little rocket man dictator in the face 20 times.
He calls his country a democracy - go figure?


Yeh a real democracy with the same crooks running the show all of the time Cheesy LOL

And parading missiles and toy soldiers in the street. Who does that sh.t ??

What a bunch of losers that country is.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
What dignity ?? The prick is not used to any criticism.He's just some little fat conman with a grade 1 education stealing from and brainwashing his own people just to feather his own nest,  to what ends ??

They should Nuke them all because they are cruel to animals. I won't lose any sleep if that part of the planet is erased. At least the dogs and cats will be left alone and not tortured to a gruesome death. Those people are just f.cked up.



Hi Nail,
I'd like to punch that fat little rocket man dictator in the face 20 times.
He calls his country a democracy - go figure?


Yeh a real democracy with the same crooks running the show all of the time Cheesy LOL

And parading missiles and toy soldiers in the street. Who does that sh.t ??

What a bunch of losers that country is.



Hi Nail,
when you think that if they'd had a real democracy they
could have voted for reunification with South Korea
and been one of the most successful nations on Earth.

Instead the Kim crime family took over the nation &
if you didn't cry enough at the last leader's funeral you were put in jail.
If you disagreed with the leader or he didn't like you,
you were machine gunned to death.
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Reply #16 - Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:30pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
What dignity ?? The prick is not used to any criticism.He's just some little fat conman with a grade 1 education stealing from and brainwashing his own people just to feather his own nest,  to what ends ??

They should Nuke them all because they are cruel to animals. I won't lose any sleep if that part of the planet is erased. At least the dogs and cats will be left alone and not tortured to a gruesome death. Those people are just f.cked up.



Hi Nail,
I'd like to punch that fat little rocket man dictator in the face 20 times.
He calls his country a democracy - go figure?


Yeh a real democracy with the same crooks running the show all of the time Cheesy LOL

And parading missiles and toy soldiers in the street. Who does that sh.t ??

What a bunch of losers that country is.



Hi Nail,
when you think that if they'd had a real democracy they
could have voted for reunification with South Korea
and been one of the most successful nations on Earth.

Instead the Kim crime family took over the nation &
if you didn't cry enough at the last leader's funeral you were put in jail.
If you disagreed with the leader or he didn't like you,
you were machine gunned to death.


And his half arsed brother was over seas getting roots in high class brothels payed for by the state whilst his own people went starving. What sort of democracy is that ?
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Reply #17 - Sep 24th, 2017 at 12:34pm
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/23/asia/north-korea-seismic-activity/index.html


A U.S. Air Force B-1B Lancer deployed from Ellsworth Air Force Base, South Dakota,
prepares to take off from Andersen AFB, Guam, Sept. 23, 2017.
...

The Pentagon said Saturday that B-1B Lancer bombers from Guam and F-15C Eagle fighter escorts from Okinawa, Japan, flew in international airspace over waters east of North Korea.
It's the farthest north of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that US fighters or bomber aircraft have ever flown this century, the Pentagon said.
The flight underscored "the seriousness with which we take DPRK's reckless behavior," the Pentagon said, using an acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
"This mission is a demonstration of US resolve and a clear message that the President has many military options to defeat any threat," Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White said in a statement.
"North Korea's weapons program is a grave threat to the Asia-Pacific region and the entire international community. We are prepared to use the full range of military capabilities to defend the US homeland and our allies."
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Reply #18 - Sep 24th, 2017 at 5:42pm
 
I wish they hurry up and get it over with.
Everyone is waiting to see what the damage is with 'nuke warfare' for the first time.

Live on Foxtel !
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Reply #19 - Sep 24th, 2017 at 7:39pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 24th, 2017 at 5:42pm:
I wish they hurry up and get it over with.
Everyone is waiting to see what the damage is with 'nuke warfare' for the first time.

Live on Foxtel !
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it's on


Trump
Quote:
Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won't be around much longer!
1:08 PM - Sep 24, 2017



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Reply #20 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:40am
 
NK to shoot down USA bombers.


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politics/north-korea-fm-us-bombers/index.html

"Since the United States declared war on our country,
we will have every right to make all self-defensive counter measures,
including the right to shoot down the United States strategic bombers at any time even when they are not yet inside the aerospace border of our country," Ri said.
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Monday that the US has not declared war on North Korea, adding, "Frankly, the suggestion of that is absurd."
Sanders said it is "never appropriate" to shoot down another nation's aircraft in international waters and the administration plans to continue to protect the area.
Earlier on Monday, State Department spokesperson Katina Adams told CNN the US seeks a "peaceful denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."
But the US military "will take all options to make sure that we safeguard our allies and our partners and our homeland so if North Korea does not stop their provocative actions we'll make sure we provide options to the President to deal with North Korea," according to Col. Rob Manning, a Pentagon spokesman.
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Trump is acting like a drama queen.
Everyone. who's got a brain, knows that he is a prisoner of the deep state.
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capitosinora wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 9:06am:
Trump is acting like a drama queen.
Everyone. who's got a brain, knows that he is a prisoner of the deep state.


It will be a shooting war any minute.
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Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


Well he brain washes them through the education system and state run media that the West is the mortal enemy and he is the good guy :LOL

What a bunch of losers.
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Reply #26 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 11:11pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


Well he brain washes them through the education system and state run media that the West is the mortal enemy and he is the good guy :LOL

What a bunch of losers.



They have no choice Nail,
If you disagree he machine guns you.
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Michio Kaku "I DON'T Think The North Koreans Have A True H-Bomb!"
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect you leader (head of state)?
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capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect your leader (head of state)?



The elected PM does that.
What is your point of contention?
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I just think Trump is opening up too much fronts for the USA to cope.  Its trying to take on North Korea - by default China and Russia, Iran - by default Russia, China - directly, and Russians directly as well.   At the same time, he is alienating his closest allies in Europe - NATO.   

Back home, USA is deeply divided. 

So if there is war, I really do not feel that there is enough political capital, nor the type of morale support needed to enable the US army to keep fighting when the body bags and the reality of war began to sink in.   Which is what happened in the last Korea and Vietnam war. 

The US won the last cold war because of some really smart economic and political management from some great leaders like Reagan, Gorbechev.  Reagan, and even Nixon in particular, realized that to bring down the iron curtain, you need work with the players behind the curtains - que. Nixon's first visit to China. 

Trump I am afraid is just not at the level of these leaders.  His methods are un refined, and he insults other statesman on twitter of all things.  Had Reagan and even Nixon tried to do that, then the result would be catastrophic.
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Reply #31 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 10:22am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:33am:
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect your leader (head of state)?



The elected PM does that.
What is your point of contention?


I've thought your head of state is the British Queen.
Maybe you should learn about that as well.
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Reply #32 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 10:42am
 
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect you leader (head of state)?



We don't even get to elect our prime minister or governor general, someone else does that. Much like your electoral college electing your president, but you do have the delusion of participation. Something we neither need nor care about.  Wink Wink Wink Wink


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Reply #33 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 11:18am
 
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 10:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:33am:
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect your leader (head of state)?



The elected PM does that.
What is your point of contention?


I've thought your head of state is the British Queen.
Maybe you should learn about that as well.


The acting head of state is the GG.
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Reply #34 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 12:07pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 10:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:33am:
capitosinora wrote on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:21am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
Hi Grappler,
I feel sorry for the North Korean people.
Their dictator leader is a megalomaniac -
he thinks his little tin pot regime can take on the world's superpower.
He doesn't care if all his people die.
What a little prick he is.


When did you last time elect your leader (head of state)?



The elected PM does that.
What is your point of contention?


I've thought your head of state is the British Queen.
Maybe you should learn about that as well.



You know that the Queen of Australia is our head of state


You know that no royalty is elected anywhere in the world


And yet you asked the question as if it had some underlying meaning or purpose

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Reply #35 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:30am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 12:45am:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/22/asia/north-korea-nuclear-test-pacific-explaine...
So how would Pyongyang conduct a nuclear test over the Pacific and what impact would it have?


A nuclear test over or in the Pacific Ocean would affect climate depending on how powerful the explosion and where the detonation takes place. An explosion near the Phillippines or Hawaii would have consequences of seeing ocean temperatures rise in the northern hemisphere. But there is a slight drop in temperatures in the southern hemisphere.

However, the more immediate impact might be the provocation of the United States into attacking North Korea.
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Reply #36 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am
 
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.
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Reply #37 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 8:44am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am:
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.


That's correct.
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Reply #38 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:19pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am:
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.


Depending on how much heat is generated, it could lead to cooler waters off the east coast of Australia. Imagine if the United States decided to do nuclear tests in the South Pacific near South America. The heat generated could impact on currents to the point that Australia does not receive warm water along our east coast.
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Reply #39 - Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:24pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am:
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.


Depending on how much heat is generated, it could lead to cooler waters off the east coast of Australia. Imagine if the United States decided to do nuclear tests in the South Pacific near South America. The heat generated could impact on currents to the point that Australia does not receive warm water along our east coast.



It would not -
a hurricane is a million times more powerful than any atom bomb.
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Reply #40 - Sep 29th, 2017 at 10:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:24pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am:
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.


Depending on how much heat is generated, it could lead to cooler waters off the east coast of Australia. Imagine if the United States decided to do nuclear tests in the South Pacific near South America. The heat generated could impact on currents to the point that Australia does not receive warm water along our east coast.



It would not -
a hurricane is a million times more powerful than any atom bomb.


According to your posts, I will have to conclude that I am far more educated than you. What does the topic of a hurricane have to do with what I wrote yesterday?

And if I can jump on the topic of hurricanes and cyclone, if you detonated one nuclear device after another (in the space of 1-hour intervals), the heat generated would boil enough water to create cyclonic activity. 10 nuclear detonations would be enough to create heavy rainfall to the nearest land mass -- depending on time of year. Even one nuclear detonation would create rainfall along the nearest coastline.
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Reply #41 - Sep 29th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 29th, 2017 at 10:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:24pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 7:15am:
A nuclear test over the Pacific would have no effect on the climate
except for one or 2 days in the immediate area.


Depending on how much heat is generated, it could lead to cooler waters off the east coast of Australia. Imagine if the United States decided to do nuclear tests in the South Pacific near South America. The heat generated could impact on currents to the point that Australia does not receive warm water along our east coast.



It would not -
a hurricane is a million times more powerful than any atom bomb.


According to your posts, I will have to conclude that I am far more educated than you. What does the topic of a hurricane have to do with what I wrote yesterday?

And if I can jump on the topic of hurricanes and cyclone, if you detonated one nuclear device after another (in the space of 1-hour intervals), the heat generated would boil enough water to create cyclonic activity. 10 nuclear detonations would be enough to create heavy rainfall to the nearest land mass -- depending on time of year. Even one nuclear detonation would create rainfall along the nearest coastline.



I am trying to say that mother nature dwarfs anything we have.

How big would a H bomb have to be to give say a force 8.5 earthquake?
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Reply #42 - Sep 30th, 2017 at 2:50am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 29th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
I am trying to say that mother nature dwarfs anything we have.

How big would a H bomb have to be to give say a force 8.5 earthquake?


The H bomb would have to be detonated around a fault line. Depending on how strong the bomb's detonation, and where the fault line lies would define how much of an earthquake you experience. My knowledge of nuclear detonations are limited to detonations in the oceans.

I can't remember what it was like during the Mururoa nuclear tests but, apparently, the boiled ocean water did enough impact on weather events in Australia and New Zealand. Either we had more rainfall or less than expected. I alleged that the heated ocean would have done something to drag ocean currents south. Therefore I contended that rainfall would be less on the eastern seaboard of Australia in 1995/1996.
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Reply #43 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Fat Kim steals Trump's war plans:


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/north-korea-hackers-us-south-korea-wa...


North Korean hackers stole US-South Korea war plans, official says
Zachary Cohen

By Zachary Cohen, CNN

Updated 1049 GMT (1849 HKT) October 11, 2017



Washington (CNN)North Korean hackers allegedly stole classified military documents from a South Korean Defense Ministry database in September 2016, according to Rhee Cheol-hee, a member of South Korea's National Assembly.
Rhee, who belongs to the ruling Democratic Party and sits on the Defense Committee, told CNN on Tuesday that he received information about the alleged hacking from the Defense Ministry.

He said the documents stolen included the South Korea-US wartime operational plan and a document that includes procedures to "decapitate" the North Korean leadership.

About 235 gigabytes worth of military data was stolen by the hackers, Rhee said.

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My comment.

How could the Yanks be so stupid as to have their war plans connected to the internet?
235 gigabytes is a hell of a lot of data.
Surely it must have been noticed?
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Reply #44 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:32pm
 

Booby Bukkake, you said there was going to be a war.  A nuclear war.

What happened?

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That'll upset the fish.......
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Reply #46 - Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:22pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
Fat Kim steals Trump's war plans:


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/north-korea-hackers-us-south-korea-wa...


North Korean hackers stole US-South Korea war plans, official says
Zachary Cohen

By Zachary Cohen, CNN

Updated 1049 GMT (1849 HKT) October 11, 2017



Washington (CNN)North Korean hackers allegedly stole classified military documents from a South Korean Defense Ministry database in September 2016, according to Rhee Cheol-hee, a member of South Korea's National Assembly.
Rhee, who belongs to the ruling Democratic Party and sits on the Defense Committee, told CNN on Tuesday that he received information about the alleged hacking from the Defense Ministry.

He said the documents stolen included the South Korea-US wartime operational plan and a document that includes procedures to "decapitate" the North Korean leadership.

About 235 gigabytes worth of military data was stolen by the hackers, Rhee said.

.......................................................................

My comment.

How could the Yanks be so stupid as to have their war plans connected to the internet?
235 gigabytes is a hell of a lot of data.
Surely it must have been noticed?


False plan... the man who never was ... the crashed glider at Arnhem.....
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False plan... the man who never was ... the crashed glider at Arnhem.....



Could be but I doubt it.
Why would they have their plans on the internet?

Everyone knows the internet can be hacked.

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Computers can be cracked or hacked. The internet can be "accessed".
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UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 12:03pm:
Computers can be cracked or hacked. The internet can be "accessed".


The story doesn't make sense.

Computers with secret military information on them have no connection to the internet.

That is standard procedure all over the world.
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 12th, 2017 at 12:03pm:
Computers can be cracked or hacked. The internet can be "accessed".


The story doesn't make sense.

Computers with secret military information on them have no connection to the internet.

That is standard procedure all over the world.


The story speaks about the commercial value of the information, not the military information. All sensitive military information is protected. I think it is just a breach of the military servers not connected to confidential information. Had it to do with personnel and other information regarding stockpiles of weapons and other inventory, then there would be an extreme concern for the ADF.
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Reply #51 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:15pm
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-15/north-korea-warns-australia-face-disaster-...


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/north-korea-threatens-australia-with-...

North Korea threatens Australia with ‘disaster’ over Julie Bishop’s comments.


North Korea has criticised Australia for supporting America's tough stance on Pyongyang and says if it continues to do so, a disaster will happen.
Key points:

    North Korea says Julie Bishop has expressed support for the US' stance against Pyongyang
    It accused Australia of "zealously joining the frenzied political and military provocations of the US"
    Ms Bishop effectively ruled out sending an Australian delegation to the rogue state

In a statement on the state-run news agency, North Korea accused Australia of "dangerous moves" by joining what it calls the frenzied political and military provocations of the US.

It said Foreign Minister Julie Bishop had personally expressed her support for the US' stance to consider all options including the use of force towards Pyongyang.

"Lately, Australia is showing dangerous moves of zealously joining the frenzied political and military provocations of the US against the DPRK," the statement says.

"The Australian Foreign Minister personally expressed her support for the stand of the US to consider all options including the use of force towards the DPRK.

"And [Ms Bishop] turned up at Panmunjom on October 11 together with the Australian Defence Minister to condemn the DPRK during her visit to South Korea," referring to Ms Bishop's visit to the border between the two Koreas.

In its warning, the North Korean Foreign Ministry statement said Australia would not be able to avoid disaster if it continued to align itself with the US and South Korea.

Ms Bishop last week said she had real concerns North Korea might launch another missile test to coincide with a meeting of China's Communist Party Congress.
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Reply #52 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:17pm
 
you got your bunker ready bobby?....this guy is threatening everyone on all sides....does he know where Australia is do you think??....he might think we are in Sth America somewhere. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:21pm
 
cods wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:17pm:
you got your bunker ready bobby?....this guy is threatening everyone on all sides....does he know where Australia is do you think??....he might think we are in Sth America somewhere. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Hi Cods,
I'm going to the supermarket now to stock up on survival rations.
Plenty of dried food & cans of baked beans and Tuna.
I'll get a large bag of rice too.
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Reply #54 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:21pm:
I'm going to the supermarket now to stock up on survival rations.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #55 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:50pm
 
John likes KY jelly.
not that there's anything wrong with that.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/why-a-north-korean-miniaturised-bomb-would...


If indeed Pyongyang has developed a miniaturised bomb, that would be a game changer.

Because it means North Korea has mastered the technology to build a Hydrogen bomb that is exponentially more powerful than an atomic bomb and could feasibly fit onto the end of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

It would mean the perceived threat from North Korea's nuclear program is far more serious than thought.

And specifically, its threats to attack the US mainland — and potentially its allies, including Australia — can no longer be taken as just sabre rattling.
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Reply #56 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 11:05pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:50pm:
John likes KY jelly.
not that there's anything wrong with that.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/why-a-north-korean-miniaturised-bomb-would...


If indeed Pyongyang has developed a miniaturised bomb, that would be a game changer.

Because it means North Korea has mastered the technology to build a Hydrogen bomb that is exponentially more powerful than an atomic bomb and could feasibly fit onto the end of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

It would mean the perceived threat from North Korea's nuclear program is far more serious than thought.

And specifically, its threats to attack the US mainland — and potentially its allies, including Australia — can no longer be taken as just sabre rattling.


Has Fat Boy Slim also mastered the technology of MIRV warheads on his pissy missiles?  Without a huge arsenal of nuclear warheads and the technology to deliver them in any meaningful way, he has nothing.

One hit and he's sh1t - if he was so stupid as to hit the US or Japan with one nuclear warhead, he would be hunted into the ground, as would everyone else who supported him in his insanity.

Let's say he bombs Seattle - how long before NK is ash and dust and huge smoke clouds rising?

Does China intervene?   They'd be crazy to do so.

Does Russia intervene?  They'd be crazy to do so.

This is not 1949 with Communist solidarity and the false belief that the UN and the US would not intervene in Korea if the North invaded.

Remember that bit from Band of Brothers?  ...

... "This wasn't like Korea or Veetnam - our country was under attack! There were three guys in our town, and it was a small town, who were declared 4F....  they couldn't go.. and they committed suicide."

I think Kim Dong On would bite off far more than he could chew....
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Has Fat Boy Slim also mastered the technology of MIRV warheads on his pissy missiles?  Without a huge arsenal of nuclear warheads and the technology to deliver them in any meaningful way, he has nothing.

One hit and he's sh1t - if he was so stupid as to hit the US or Japan with one nuclear warhead, he would be hunted into the ground, as would everyone else who supported him in his insanity.

Let's say he bombs Seattle - how long before NK is ash and dust and huge smoke clouds rising?

Does China intervene?   They'd be crazy to do so.

Does Russia intervene?  They'd be crazy to do so.

This is not 1949 with Communist solidarity and the false belief that the UN and the US would not intervene in Korea if the North invaded.

Remember that bit from Band of Brothers?  ...

... "This wasn't like Korea or Veetnam - our country was under attack! There were three guys in our town, and it was a small town, who were declared 4F....  they couldn't go.. and they committed suicide."

I think Kim Dong On would bite off far more than he could chew....



dear Grappler - prepare your fallout shelter now.

Kim is gunna nuke us.
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Reply #58 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 11:34pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 11:28pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 15th, 2017 at 11:05pm:
Has Fat Boy Slim also mastered the technology of MIRV warheads on his pissy missiles?  Without a huge arsenal of nuclear warheads and the technology to deliver them in any meaningful way, he has nothing.

One hit and he's sh1t - if he was so stupid as to hit the US or Japan with one nuclear warhead, he would be hunted into the ground, as would everyone else who supported him in his insanity.

Let's say he bombs Seattle - how long before NK is ash and dust and huge smoke clouds rising?

Does China intervene?   They'd be crazy to do so.

Does Russia intervene?  They'd be crazy to do so.

This is not 1949 with Communist solidarity and the false belief that the UN and the US would not intervene in Korea if the North invaded.

Remember that bit from Band of Brothers?  ...

... "This wasn't like Korea or Veetnam - our country was under attack! There were three guys in our town, and it was a small town, who were declared 4F....  they couldn't go.. and they committed suicide."

I think Kim Dong On would bite off far more than he could chew....



dear Grappler - prepare your fallout shelter now.

Kim is gunna nuke us.


He hasn't the balls or the range in his missiles to do that.   He's hoping that by acting bad boy the US will offer him the equivalent of the Marshal Plan and develop NK for him..... bring them to the negotiating table and then say:- 

"Look - if you help us we'll help you here... help us develop a viable economy in which I and my mates can be the top capitalists like in China and we won't bomb you or even carry on stupid any more!  Hey, Bro - me old mate!  We could even be an Eastern bastion against China and Russia here... think it over!  Win-win for all when your capitalists share our prosperity!!!"

That'd work a treat... but don't laugh - that's the way most tyrants are conquered - by silver bullets...... in very large brown paper bags.
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The joint naval drills will last for 10 days in the waters of South Korea, according to a US statement, and feature a US aircraft carrier and two guided-missile destroyers.
On Friday, North Korea state media KCNA said "reckless moves" by the United States would force the rogue state to "take counteractions."
"The US military action hardens our determination that the US should be tamed with fire and lets us take our hand closer to the 'trigger' for taking the toughest countermeasure," the KCNA report quoted Kim Kwang Hak, a researcher at the Institute for American Studies of the North Korean Foreign Ministry, as saying.
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As I have been saying, the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all...  Their problem is getting a missile that can reliably be fired and can reliably expect to hit what it is aimed at.  That is still IMHO about five years off.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
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Reply #62 - Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm
 
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?




The fact that we don't know is the problem.

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Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?




The fact that we don't know is the problem.

Never underestimate your opponent.


Be afraid, Booby.

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Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #65 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:57pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?



The fact that we don't know is the problem.

Never underestimate your opponent.


Don't over-estimate his abilities either.  From the evidence before us (the results of the DPRK's test firings) their SRBMs are reliable.  Their IRBMs are reliable.  Their ICBMs and SLBMs are crap.    Roll Eyes   They will not, however always be crap.   Changing from crap to reliable, usable, mature technology will take approximate 5 years in my estimation.  If not possibly longer.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #66 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 17th, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?




The fact that we don't know is the problem.

Never underestimate your opponent.


Be afraid, Booby.

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As laughable as it might appear, in reality always remember that the Pakistani and Indian SRBMs and IRBMs both started out using a 5.25in floppy disk to store their boot and guidance instructions on which was used successfully to guide their missile systems.
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Reply #67 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.

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Reply #68 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?



The fact that we don't know is the problem.

Never underestimate your opponent.


Don't over-estimate his abilities either.  From the evidence before us (the results of the DPRK's test firings) their SRBMs are reliable.  Their IRBMs are reliable.  Their ICBMs and SLBMs are crap.    Roll Eyes   They will not, however always be crap.   Changing from crap to reliable, usable, mature technology will take approximate 5 years in my estimation.  If not possibly longer.    Roll Eyes




dear Brian,
I wouldn't bet on it.
The true threat is unknown.
Remember those old Scud missiles can re-enter the Earth's atmosphere.
How would you like to be at Guam if you knew that a
Kim Jong-Un nuclear tipped missile was on it's way to you?
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Justsayno wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.


Really, JSN?  Evidence please, a link, so we can ascertain what you're claiming is true or not...    Roll Eyes 
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Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:58pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?



The fact that we don't know is the problem.

Never underestimate your opponent.


Don't over-estimate his abilities either.  From the evidence before us (the results of the DPRK's test firings) their SRBMs are reliable.  Their IRBMs are reliable.  Their ICBMs and SLBMs are crap.    Roll Eyes   They will not, however always be crap.   Changing from crap to reliable, usable, mature technology will take approximate 5 years in my estimation.  If not possibly longer.    Roll Eyes


dear Brian,
I wouldn't bet on it.
The true threat is unknown.
Remember those old Scud missiles can re-enter the Earth's atmosphere.
How would you like to be at Guam if you knew that a
Kim Jong-Un nuclear tipped missile was on it's way to you?


SCUD missiles are SRBM, Bobby.  They cannot reach Guam, Australia or the US.  The distance from the DPRK to Guam is 3,122km, Bobby.  The Maximum range of a SCUD is 1.200km (Rodong-1).

I would be worried more about the massive number of reliable, effective, missiles from the PRC than anything Kim Jong Un can light the blue touch paper on...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 3:35pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.


Really, JSN?  Evidence please, a link, so we can ascertain what you're claiming is true or not...    Roll Eyes 

Google it dicko, like you can Google China.
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
SCUD missiles are SRBM, Bobby.  They cannot reach Guam, Australia or the US.  The distance from the DPRK to Guam is 3,122km, Bobby.  The Maximum range of a SCUD is 1.200km (Rodong-1).

I would be worried more about the massive number of reliable, effective, missiles from the PRC than anything Kim Jong Un can light the blue touch paper on...   Roll Eyes



I was talking about a "Kim Jong-Un nuclear tipped missile"
which has greater range than a SCUD missile.

Anyway - Kim can always put a nuke in a mini sub and send it into any harbor in the world.
He's quite a threat.
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Reply #73 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 6:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.


Really, JSN?  Evidence please, a link, so we can ascertain what you're claiming is true or not...    Roll Eyes 

Do a google Brian, your an expert at it.
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Reply #74 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 8:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 3:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
SCUD missiles are SRBM, Bobby.  They cannot reach Guam, Australia or the US.  The distance from the DPRK to Guam is 3,122km, Bobby.  The Maximum range of a SCUD is 1.200km (Rodong-1).

I would be worried more about the massive number of reliable, effective, missiles from the PRC than anything Kim Jong Un can light the blue touch paper on...   Roll Eyes



I was talking about a "Kim Jong-Un nuclear tipped missile"
which has greater range than a SCUD missile.


You said (and I note you don't quote here):

Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 8:58pm:
dear Brian,
I wouldn't bet on it.
The true threat is unknown.
Remember those old Scud missiles can re-enter the Earth's atmosphere.
How would you like to be at Guam if you knew that a
Kim Jong-Un nuclear tipped missile was on it's way to you?


You implied you were talking about SCUD SRBM.   As I pointed out, SCUDs do not have the range to reach Guam.   Tsk, tsk.  Please be more exact and stop muddying the waters, Bobby.

Quote:
Anyway - Kim can always put a nuke in a mini sub and send it into any harbor in the world.
He's quite a threat.


Fantasies, Bobby, just fantasies.  Been watching James Bond movies again?

The DPRK mini-submarines are quite short range.   ROC/PRC/Russia are the only harbours they can reach.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 3:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.


Really, JSN?  Evidence please, a link, so we can ascertain what you're claiming is true or not...    Roll Eyes 

Google it dicko, like you can Google China.
Stupid old woman.


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Reply #76 - Oct 21st, 2017 at 8:42pm
 
Justsayno wrote on Oct 21st, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 4:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
Justsayno wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 7:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 16th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
the DPRK's missiles are unreliable and lack range to hit most of Australia, if at all... 


They did not make them Brian they purchased them, how do YOU know how good/bad or useless they are?
Did you buy them?


Their reliable SRBMs are basically copies of and improvements to SCUD missiles, which were originally designed in the early 1950s in the fUSSR.   Their IRBM missiles are improvements on the SCUD design but were redesigned in the DPRK..  Their ICBMs are their own design.  All are manufactured in the DPRK by DPRK people.    Roll Eyes

The DPRK has not bought any missile technology since the ~late 1980s.   Not sure where you are getting your claims from but they are bullshit.   Roll Eyes


The ICBM rockets North Korea have were purchased from an ex Russian territory, or so says American intelligence. You should leave wiki for your history lessons and read more current topics if you wish to keep up to date.


Really, JSN?  Evidence please, a link, so we can ascertain what you're claiming is true or not...    Roll Eyes 

Do a google Brian, your an expert at it.


I have, JSN.  I have.  According to this report, the DPRK appears to have accessed ex-Soviet rocket engine technology.  Either they have a limited number of engines or they are attempting to produce their own version of it.   From the evidence, they are not being terribly successful...

Rocket engines, BTW, are not missiles, JSN, in care you're confused.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - Oct 26th, 2017 at 6:00am
 
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Pyongyang (CNN)A senior North Korean official has issued a stern warning to the world that it should take "literally" his country's threat to test a nuclear weapon above ground.
The official, Ri Yong Pil, told CNN in an exclusive conversation in Pyongyang that the threat made by North Korea's foreign minister last month should not be dismissed. North Korea "has always brought its words into action," Ri said, visibly angry.


Speaking on a visit to New York for the United Nations General Assembly last month, Ri Yong Ho, the foreign minister, raised the possibility that North Korea could test a powerful hydrogen bomb over the Pacific Ocean. The threat came hours after US President Donald Trump threatened to "totally destroy" North Korea in a speech to the UN.
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