Auggie wrote on Sep 19
th, 2017 at 4:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19
th, 2017 at 4:13pm:
I don't - I merely say that the best solution is the middle way - if agreed to by a majority of the voting public in a binding vote - for a 'separate but equal' position for Gay Marriage or whatever it will be called, with it is clearly stated that this is a special issue and that churches have the unmitigated option to accept or reject it according to their conscience.
The gays (etc) have always lead life in a parallel universe - let them continue happily there.
Now - where are all these hard facts on all these gays worldwide committing suicide BECAUSE of 'marriage inequality'? It seems to me that if they are that unstable, especially any here in Australia (the only country we have any control over, BTW) before the vote is even counted, they were going to commit suicide anyway.
I honestly believe that the best way - the middle of the road is the have the state abolish legal marriage entirely, and instead establish civil unions. Leave marriage to religious institutions.
That way, eveyone is equal under the law, and the churches can define marriage as they wish.
Fair points, I think.
As long as the rights of all in fixed relationships are protected equally, I'm content. Frankly, the thought that a gay partner of many years has no rights in property or even organising funeral etc is abhorrent to me. I don;t think that is fair in any way... but marriage is not the answer... legal rights are the answer.
As for all the possible outcomes from permitting 'gay marriage', such as the intrusion into schools of hidden agendas and such - surely it is the DUTY of our elected representatives to abide by the rules of decency and common sense.
I hear that in Victoria Safe Schools was booted out, but the public servants are not abiding by the orders of their political masters. Such public servants should be immediately sacked without any rights, regardless of their position and pension rights etc.
If Joe Bloggs the Titter and Furner at Ginamite Blasting Corp disobeyed a clear order, he wouldn't see daylight between himself and the gate... why are public servants a protected species..... unless it is in the interests of their political masters to say one thing but allow the opposite.......
And thereby hangs a tale.....
Absolutely they would be. That's the point of establishing legal Civil Unions. The standard would be 2 consenting adults entering into a contractual arrangement.