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A SMALL-BUSINESS owner has sacked a staff member who came out in support of the “no” campaign in the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite.

Madlin Sims, who runs a party entertainment company in Canberra, said she was taking a stand on the issue, likening it to employing a staff member who posted racist material online.

The sacked contractor was a woman who took photos of events and often posted them on Facebook. “Today I fired a staff member who made it public knowledge that they feel ‘it’s okay to vote no’,” Ms Sims wrote on Sunday.


“Advertising your desire to vote no for SSM is, in my eyes, hate speech. Voting no is homophobic. Advertising your homophobia is hate speech. As a business owner I can’t have somebody who publicly represents my business posting hate speech online.

“1. Its bad for business. 2. I don’t like s**t morals. 3. I don’t want homophobes working for me, especially in an environment with children.

“It’s not okay to vote no. It’s not okay to be homophobic. This isn’t a matter of opinion or even religion. It’s a matter of the love and livelihood of real human beings. Freedom of speech is there for a reason and so are consequences. Vote against homophobia. Vote for equality. Vote yes.”

She added that it wasn’t a “you’re voting no, you’re fired situation”.

“There were prior conversations had,” she wrote. “As a business that works with children of all kinds, we have a responsibility to working with vulnerable people and having someone who is out and proud about their beliefs (of which are statistically proven to have horrible effects on young members of the gay community) is a risk for the wellbeing of the children we work with.”

She said “freedom of speech and hate speech are very different things”. “We have members of the gay community all over the world committing suicide because of inequality but we aren’t going to have anti-SSM supporters killing themselves over equality,” she wrote.

Ms Sims’ original post has been shared more than 140 times and sparked fierce debate.


“I was reading comments the other day that were saying like everyone is allowed an opinion/freedom of speech etc. etc. but like when did blatant discrimination become acceptable,” wrote Squizzy Skeels.

“Those people aren’t just having an opinion, they are discriminating against [SSM] and yes it is hate speech to come out on social media and express so.”

Rania Yallop said she had “nothing but respect”. “Good job for standing up for equality and sticking up for what you believe in will certainly getting my business in the future,” she wrote.

John Dale added that if a church could cancel a couple’s wedding because they supported same-sex marriage on Facebook, “I fail to understand how an employer should be forced to ignore an employee of an equality employer taking the same (if morally more acceptable) position”.

But Lysa Ant said it was “unfair and hypocritical”. “Some homosexuals have expressed they will vote no, are they homophobes?” she wrote. “I think you need to be respectful of people’s opinion and belief.”

Michael Duggan said firing someone for having a different opinion “makes you a bigot”. “If I was that person you sacked I’d be finding a solicitor real quick for unfair dismissal,” he wrote.

Jason Owen said voting no “doesn’t make someone a homophobe”. “Lots of people including gay people are voting no because of behaviour like this,” he wrote. “Not to mention what’s happened in countries where SSM has been legalised. I hope the person you fired takes you for unfair dismissal and wins.”

In a follow-up post responding to the controversy on Tuesday, Ms Sims said she stood by her decision to sack the contractor, despite receiving a torrent of abuse.

“This contractor was approached in a civil manner by my brother who is a friend of hers and also works for the business,” she wrote. “He got in touch with her about the damage her publicising her views could cause to friends they share who are gay.

“The contractor’s response was to verbally attack my brother and refuse to take the post down (which she is well within her human rights to do). This contractor being let go ... was not because I oppose her views on marriage equality.

“She was let go because her actions showed she is extremely out and proud about her views on homosexuals ... I stand by my decision to let go of this contractor and her actions since being let go have justified for me that I made the right choice in doing so.”

Ms Sims said she had been called “skank, whore, bitch, putrid, slut”. “Someone even brought up my stance on refugees and said they hope [my] two-year-old son gets raped for it,” she wrote. “My brother has received death threats and been called horrible names.”

News.com.au has contacted Ms Sims for comment.

On Tuesday, the Coalition for Marriage said the sacking proved the “real agenda behind same-sex marriage proponents”. “
Today’s report indicates that there is an appetite on the part of ‘yes’ campaigners not only to silence, but punish, those who disagree
,” Coalition for Marriage spokeswoman Monica Doumit said in a statement.

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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:11pm
 
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............On Tuesday, the Coalition for Marriage said the sacking proved the “real agenda behind same-sex marriage proponents”. “Today’s report indicates that there is an appetite on the part of ‘yes’ campaigners not only to silence, but punish, those who disagree,” Coalition for Marriage spokeswoman Monica Doumit said in a statement.

This won’t stop if the law changes. On the contrary, same-sex marriage activists will feel emboldened by the change in law and seek out dissenters for ruin. We’ve seen it happen overseas, and you would have to be very naive to think it wouldn’t happen here.


“If same sex marriage becomes law anyone who disagrees with gay marriage could face similar situations or worse. Australians are left with no other option but to vote no.”

The Australian Bureau of Statistics began mailing out the Australian Marriage Law postal surveys last week. All survey forms should be received by September 25, and must be mailed back by October 27. The survey closes at 6pm November 7, and the results will be published on the ABS website on November 15.

It comes as a Guardian Essential poll shows public support for legalising same-sex marriage has dropped four percentage points in the past two weeks, down from 59 per cent to 55 per cent. That contrasted with an earlier Fairfax-Ipsos poll which put the “yes” vote at 70 per cent among those intending to take part in the survey.

A raft of Australian Muslim leaders have also come out against same-sex marriage. Islamic Friendship Association of Australia head Keysar Trad compared gay partnerships to incestuous relationships.

“We might love our mum and dad intensively but you don’t denigrate that love with sexual behaviour,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

Meanwhile, a campaign called “Muslims for Marriage Equality” launched in Sydney on Monday night. The group said many Muslims were “supportive” of a yes vote but were unwilling to speak out...............


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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:22pm
 
well I have said all along  if our MPs do the voting it will be all about votes..


now it seems its all about business......god help us   an opinion now is more important the job ethics or loyalty..


we are in for even worse times the divide is getting bigger  and its got nothing to do with rich or poor.

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You shall have no opinion other than the approved opinion lest ye be severely punished, so sayeth the left, so sayeth everyone.

The latest reason of very many to hate fkking socialists.


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Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.
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Reply #5 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
You shall have no opinion other than the approved opinion lest ye be severely punished, so sayeth the left, so sayeth everyone.

The latest reason of very many to hate fkking socialists.





Thats going to cause a crush in my day, being hated by a glorified petrol pump attendant.
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Reply #6 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm
 
I hope Ms Sims is properly punished for her offence against democracy.... I won't hold my breath... we all know these 'tribunals' set up to resolve discrimination and such are only there to serve specified groups already accorded Accredited Victim Status and not everyone equally.

If someone was sacked for openly supporting the YES campaign....................................... you would hear no end of screeching about it.......
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #8 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?
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Reply #9 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?
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Besides this will be sorted in unfair dismissal.
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Reply #11 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:47pm:
You shall have no opinion other than the approved opinion lest ye be severely punished, so sayeth the left, so sayeth everyone.

The latest reason of very many to hate fkking socialists.





Thats going to cause a crush in my day, being hated by a glorified petrol pump attendant.



Your insult / troll was so vague and weak, I wondered who the fkk you were talking to.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


try fkkhead greg's potato peeler troll at least I know he's having a go, it's not very good but I can recognise the attempt.



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Reply #12 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:00pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?



She was, thats why she voted yes.
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Reply #13 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.


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BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools
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"SafeSchools' ........ Is that the DoubleSpeak of the month ?
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Reply #16 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:12pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?


'cause the girl made a public statement which she associated with the business, against the owner's wishes?

Tell me, Grappler, how long do you put up with employees going against your wishes and placing your business in a precarious position with a largish slice of the community?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley



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Reply #18 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley






I was talking about the no campaign in general. So if you dont care about homosexuals want, just vote yes and get the argument over with.,
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Reply #19 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:23pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley






I was talking about the no campaign in general. So if you dont care about homosexuals want, just vote yes and get the argument over with.,



Well first up I don't generally vote, unless I think it is important and this isn't.


Secondly it would be funny as fkk to see the socialist lose their sh1t if they lose.  Grin Grin Grin


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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.

Consequences are allowed to be examined: infact, it is the way society works!

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley






I was talking about the no campaign in general. So if you dont care about homosexuals want, just vote yes and get the argument over with.,

Consequences: don't you teach your kids to examine the consequences?

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Reply #22 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 3:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:12pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?


'cause the girl made a public statement which she associated with the business, against the owner's wishes?

Tell me, Grappler, how long do you put up with employees going against your wishes and placing your business in a precarious position with a largish slice of the community?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


"As a business owner I can’t have somebody who publicly represents my business posting hate speech online."

What part of 'represents' are you confusing with 'presents' - the girl posted on her own time and on her own line, and doesn't mention the business.  she made NO public statement involving the business.

Apart from that where does a person get off arbitrarily labeling opposition to something as 'hate speech'?

I, too, hope she is done for unfair dismissal - that should show people where the line is drawn.  Contractor, huh?  So she's not an employee as such, but the owner wants to treat her as both an employee and a contractor - been there, done that.... doesn't wash.  You're either one or the other and if you have an ABN you are a business separate from your personal views - to which you are entitled.

A business is ONLY entitled to consider someone paid by them to be 'going against their wishes' when it is direct company business.  These lines need to be clearly drawn since businesses have been getting away with petty dictatorship and abuse for far too long.
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Reply #23 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 4:12pm
 
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What part of 'represents' are you confusing with 'presents' - the girl posted on her own time and on her own line, and doesn't mention the business.  she made NO public statement involving the business.


Yes, good point.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 3:58pm:
Apart from that where does a person get off arbitrarily labeling opposition to something as 'hate speech'?


I agree with this statement. The business owner stated that there was a 'difference' between Free Speech and Hate Speech. This is incorrect - hate speech is free speech, otherwise it's not Free Speech.

I also agree that the Business Owner was within her right to fire the employee as it is a private business, but she shouldn't say that she supports Freedom of Speech when she fires someone who expresses a different opinion to her.
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Do what the Yessers do, collect forms from letter boxes and buy them on eBay and vote multiple times.
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So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

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Reply #26 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

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Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....
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Reply #27 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....


If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

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Reply #28 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:04pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....



If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

Huh Huh Huh



A baker is providing an optional service - an employee or contractor has rights in terms of employment and conditions...... and it's not discrimination, it's personal choice based on claimed religious belief.
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YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes
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A SMALL-BUSINESS owner has sacked a staff member who came out in support of the “no” campaign in the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite.

This kind of conduct is not exclusive to one side of the debate.

Church cancels wedding because bride and groom supported gay marriage on Facebook

This sort of conduct is not acceptable, no matter which side perpetuates it. Do we really want to live in an Australia where expressing political views brings this kind of "punishment"? Of course not.

People on BOTH sides of the discussion should be allowed to express their views freely, and people on both sides also have the responsibility to refrain from attacking others with different views by word or deed.

Do you want to live in an Australia where all people are equal before the law? Choose Yes.
Do you have legitimate concerns on religious grounds? Choose No.

I have chosen Yes, by the way, but I'm otherwise not wasting my time on this distraction. And that is what it is - a distraction, to divert the attention of the public from the continuing ineptitude of this bad government.
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YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

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Bam wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
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A SMALL-BUSINESS owner has sacked a staff member who came out in support of the “no” campaign in the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite.

This kind of conduct is not exclusive to one side of the debate.

Church cancels wedding because bride and groom supported gay marriage on Facebook

This sort of conduct is not acceptable, no matter which side perpetuates it. Do we really want to live in an Australia where expressing political views brings this kind of "punishment"? Of course not.

People on BOTH sides of the discussion should be allowed to express their views freely, and people on both sides also have the responsibility to refrain from attacking others with different views by word or deed.

Do you want to live in an Australia where all people are equal before the law? Choose Yes.
Do you have legitimate concerns on religious grounds? Choose No.

I have chosen Yes, by the way, but I'm otherwise not wasting my time on this distraction. And that is what it is - a distraction, to divert the attention of the public from the continuing ineptitude of this bad government.


Church has the right to cancel the wedding. If they don't want to marry the couple, they shouldn't be forced to.
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Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:11pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
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A SMALL-BUSINESS owner has sacked a staff member who came out in support of the “no” campaign in the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite.

This kind of conduct is not exclusive to one side of the debate.

Church cancels wedding because bride and groom supported gay marriage on Facebook

This sort of conduct is not acceptable, no matter which side perpetuates it. Do we really want to live in an Australia where expressing political views brings this kind of "punishment"? Of course not.

People on BOTH sides of the discussion should be allowed to express their views freely, and people on both sides also have the responsibility to refrain from attacking others with different views by word or deed.

Do you want to live in an Australia where all people are equal before the law? Choose Yes.
Do you have legitimate concerns on religious grounds? Choose No.

I have chosen Yes, by the way, but I'm otherwise not wasting my time on this distraction. And that is what it is - a distraction, to divert the attention of the public from the continuing ineptitude of this bad government.


Church has the right to cancel the wedding. If they don't want to marry the couple, they shouldn't be forced to.

As long as they are willing to bear the cost of any litigation and damages. If the couple are forced to pay additional costs, it's likely they will be sending the church the bill.

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Reply #34 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:44pm
 
Sorry Sprint, I posted a thread and hadn't seen this yet.

Strange how the left support this but apparently are the ones who wanted fairer workplace conditions. Clearly only when it suits, it is okay to unfairly dismiss a conservative.
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Reply #35 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.
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Reply #36 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:48pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools


All of that could happen and more. It is a Pandora's box. But why don't we focus on the topic of issue here, unfair dismissal.
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Reply #37 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:12pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?


'cause the girl made a public statement which she associated with the business, against the owner's wishes?

Tell me, Grappler, how long do you put up with employees going against your wishes and placing your business in a precarious position with a largish slice of the community?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The girl's post had nothing whatsoever to do with the business. She posted I think on her own personal Facebook account.
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Reply #38 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:51pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley






I was talking about the no campaign in general. So if you dont care about homosexuals want, just vote yes and get the argument over with.,



Well first up I don't generally vote, unless I think it is important and this isn't.


Secondly it would be funny as fkk to see the socialist lose their sh1t if they lose.  Grin Grin Grin




Fortunately we saw that last November and boy o boy was it orgasmic.
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Reply #39 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:55pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....


If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

Huh Huh Huh


Because you go to a baker and a priest to get food and get married, respectively. They are optional services. When you are an employee or contractor you have signed mutually agreed terms and conditions of employment, which are legal.
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A SMALL-BUSINESS owner has sacked a staff member who came out in support of the “no” campaign in the same-sex marriage postal plebiscite.

This kind of conduct is not exclusive to one side of the debate.

Church cancels wedding because bride and groom supported gay marriage on Facebook

This sort of conduct is not acceptable, no matter which side perpetuates it. Do we really want to live in an Australia where expressing political views brings this kind of "punishment"? Of course not.

People on BOTH sides of the discussion should be allowed to express their views freely, and people on both sides also have the responsibility to refrain from attacking others with different views by word or deed.

Do you want to live in an Australia where all people are equal before the law? Choose Yes.
Do you have legitimate concerns on religious grounds? Choose No.

I have chosen Yes, by the way, but I'm otherwise not wasting my time on this distraction. And that is what it is - a distraction, to divert the attention of the public from the continuing ineptitude of this bad government.


Did the church and bride and groom sign a list of terms and conditions?
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Reply #41 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 11:41pm
 
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:51pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:04pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?




Because it is a stupid waste of time and needs to be ignored.






Then just vote no and stop banging on about the following


1. It will lead to paedophilia
2. It will lead to transsexuals raping women in toilets
3. It will lead to people marrying their dogs
4. The children of gay couples ar ethe new stolen generation
5. Its about political correctness
6. Safe Schools



I have never said any of that ya fkkhead, you're just confused and stupid.  Grin Grin Grin


I couldn't care less about how the homos are feeling, or what they want. I just hate fkkheaed socialists demanding everyone agree with everything they say and think.  Smiley Smiley Smiley






I was talking about the no campaign in general. So if you dont care about homosexuals want, just vote yes and get the argument over with.,



Well first up I don't generally vote, unless I think it is important and this isn't.


Secondly it would be funny as fkk to see the socialist lose their sh1t if they lose.  Grin Grin Grin




Fortunately we saw that last November and boy o boy was it orgasmic.


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Reply #43 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 12:05am
 
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 2:12pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


Why wasn't the business owner who sacked that girl?


'cause the girl made a public statement which she associated with the business, against the owner's wishes?

Tell me, Grappler, how long do you put up with employees going against your wishes and placing your business in a precarious position with a largish slice of the community?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The girl's post had nothing whatsoever to do with the business. She posted I think on her own personal Facebook account.


There is no mention of the sacked contractor quoting the company or anything like it.  It was entirely on her own personal Facebook page according to the news post, and in no way did she connect her personal view with the company.  On the other hand, the company owner did...... which clearly falls under lese majeste....
I
am the boss -
I say what you can and can't do on your own time.....


Time that nonsense was brought under tight control..... and bosses severely chastised for it.

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what about the new laws?

is she being dragged into court?

or does the law only work for the YES voters?
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parents have already lost their rights to their children education in regards to Social Engineering...

  • There is no opt-out for students who don’t want to participate.


  • Parents cannot sign a form that prevents their child from participating.


  • Parents can not sit-in on the training sessions.


http://concit.org/safe-schools-meet-the-new-parents-of-victoria/

just wait till SSM goes through... the lid will be open to the freaks to run riot...
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Reply #46 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 7:31am
 
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....


If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

Huh Huh Huh


Because you go to a baker and a priest to get food and get married, respectively. They are optional services. When you are an employee or contractor you have signed mutually agreed terms and conditions of employment, which are legal.


So it is ok for a shop owner to tell a customer they are not welcome in their shop because they are gay but it is not ok to end a contract with a contractor for what ever reason....The first instance would violate the discrimination act as it stands now and the second instance is a business decision that is legal....You have no idea do you???

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parents have already lost their rights to their children education in regards to Social Engineering...

  • There is no opt-out for students who don’t want to participate.


  • Parents cannot sign a form that prevents their child from participating.


  • Parents can not sit-in on the training sessions.


http://concit.org/safe-schools-meet-the-new-parents-of-victoria/

Sounds like neoliberalism.
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Looks like there may a lesson to learn for the nut bag hateful lefties; don't be a fkken b1tch and expect everyone to be fine with it.



THE businessowner of a children’s party business who sacked one of her workers for promoting the “no” vote has had a Facebook post deleted for apparently causing hate speech.
It comes as she cops a series of abusive messages and death threats herself.
The 18-year-old worker, who has been identified only by her first name Madeline, was let go as a contractor by the Canberra small business for posting a Facebook profile picture with a filter saying “It’s OK to vote no”.
Capital Kids Parties business owner Madlin Sims said she fired Madeline because “advertising your desire to vote no for SSM [same-sex marriage] is, in my eyes, hate speech”.
She says she has since been called a skank, wh**e, b**ch, putrid and a sl*t.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/no-voter-fires-back-after-getting-...
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I have a think about this over the last couple of days, and I think that people should be able to express an opinion without having to worry about their livelihoods being destroyed.

I oppose government censorship. Internal or social censorship is pretty much the same thing.

Therefore, I'm inclined to support unfair dismissal laws that make punish employers for firing employees who express an opinion. There must also be some caveats. For e.g.

- the employee/contractor must state that the opinion which she/he holds is not that of the business, and that she/he does not represent the business in her/his comments in any way.

- the employee/contractor must not use expletive language when making the opinion.

Thoughts?
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BigOl64 wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Looks like there may a lesson to learn for the nut bag hateful lefties; don't be a fkken b1tch and expect everyone to be fine with it.



THE businessowner of a children’s party business who sacked one of her workers for promoting the “no” vote has had a Facebook post deleted for apparently causing hate speech.
It comes as she cops a series of abusive messages and death threats herself.
The 18-year-old worker, who has been identified only by her first name Madeline, was let go as a contractor by the Canberra small business for posting a Facebook profile picture with a filter saying “It’s OK to vote no”.
Capital Kids Parties business owner Madlin Sims said she fired Madeline because “advertising your desire to vote no for SSM [same-sex marriage] is, in my eyes, hate speech”.
She says she has since been called a skank, wh**e, b**ch, putrid and a sl*t.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/no-voter-fires-back-after-getting-...


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Reply #51 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?
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Reply #52 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm
 
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

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Reply #53 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:42pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:30pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Looks like there may a lesson to learn for the nut bag hateful lefties; don't be a fkken b1tch and expect everyone to be fine with it.



THE businessowner of a children’s party business who sacked one of her workers for promoting the “no” vote has had a Facebook post deleted for apparently causing hate speech.
It comes as she cops a series of abusive messages and death threats herself.
The 18-year-old worker, who has been identified only by her first name Madeline, was let go as a contractor by the Canberra small business for posting a Facebook profile picture with a filter saying “It’s OK to vote no”.
Capital Kids Parties business owner Madlin Sims said she fired Madeline because “advertising your desire to vote no for SSM [same-sex marriage] is, in my eyes, hate speech”.
She says she has since been called a skank, wh**e, b**ch, putrid and a sl*t.


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/no-voter-fires-back-after-getting-...


Hate speech = free speech. There is no difference.



It can be, but it doesn't have to be.


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Reply #54 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.
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Reply #55 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!
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Reply #56 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:52pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!



BTW, speaking of mental illness.
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Reply #57 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:54pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!



BTW, speaking of mental illness.

I'm not pro gay marriage: you are!  Cheesy
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Reply #58 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm
 
But you are given to histrionics, exclamation marks and wild claims.
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Reply #59 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?
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Reply #60 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:57pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!



BTW, speaking of mental illness.

I'm not pro gay marriage: you are!  Cheesy


Yes, but you're an anti-Semite....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #61 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?

You said 'would' not 'could' buddy!

Cheesy
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Reply #62 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!



BTW, speaking of mental illness.

I'm not pro gay marriage: you are!  Cheesy


Yes, but you're an anti-Semite....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Only Ben Shapiro!
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Reply #63 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:02pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?

You said 'would' not 'could' buddy!

Cheesy


If the situation happened, would....

A person could....

Get the difference? The first is the conditional tense, the second is 'to be able to'. Didn't you learn grammar in high school?
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Reply #64 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:03pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:54pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:55pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.



So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  Grin Grin Grin Grin





Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?


The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.

Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  Wink Wink




So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.

So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro!



BTW, speaking of mental illness.

I'm not pro gay marriage: you are!  Cheesy


Yes, but you're an anti-Semite....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Only Ben Shapiro!


That's just the cover. We all know the facts.
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Reply #65 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:05pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?

You said 'would' not 'could' buddy!

Cheesy


If the situation happened, would....

A person could....

Get the difference? The first is the conditional tense, the second is 'to be able to'. Didn't you learn grammar in high school?

No I didn't go to boarding school and get beaten up to raise kids with a dumb blonde and make her family watch  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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[quote author=augcaesarustus link=1505790546/64#64 date=1505887386][quote author=AnotherJourneyByTr link=1505790546/62#62 date=1505887198][quote author=augcaesarustus link=1505790546/60#60 date=1505887034][quote author=AnotherJourneyByTr link=1505790546/57#57 date=1505886845][quote author=Pastafarian link=1505790546/56#56 date=1505886762][quote author=AnotherJourneyByTr link=1505790546/55#55 date=1505886661][quote author=Pastafarian link=1505790546/54#54 date=1505886507][quote author=AnotherJourneyByTr link=1505790546/52#52 date=1505886000][quote author=matty link=1505790546/35#35 date=1505825238][quote author=Pastafarian link=1505790546/8#8 date=1505793460][quote author=bigol64 link=1505790546/7#7 date=1505793345][quote author=Pastafarian link=1505790546/4#4 date=1505793185]Again, the no campaign reaching for any issue other than the one we're actually voting on.[/quote]


So?


If the left keep attacking people it won't change their mind it will merely harden their resolve.


It happens everyone some d1ckhead socialist wants to change something


Good luck with the yes campaign.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


[/quote]


Why arent these people just focusing on what the question is about?[/quote]

The initial post had nothing to do with gay marriage and was about unfair dismissal. You made it about marriage so perhaps heed your own advice when talking about focusing on what the question is about.[/quote]
Pastafarians need a slippery substance to digest their birdseed ... Reject the ragu and you reject the pastafarian  ;) ;)[/quote]



So why not put it about unfair dismissal and not aggressive left sacks those voting no. It may have meant to be about unfair dismissal but the topic title is a loaded one.[/quote]
So,Pastafarians refuse to read between the lines ay: that's called being a pedant bro![/quote]


BTW, speaking of mental illness.[/quote]
I'm not pro gay marriage: you are!  :D
[/quote]

Yes, but you're an anti-Semite....  ::) ::)[/quote]
Only Ben Shapiro!
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That's just the cover. We all know the facts. [/quote]
You know what a normal person is: anti inflammatory Jew!
He seeks to inflame people and you can't correct me on that  ;)
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Reply #67 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:08pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?

You said 'would' not 'could' buddy!

Cheesy


If the situation happened, would....

A person could....

Get the difference? The first is the conditional tense, the second is 'to be able to'. Didn't you learn grammar in high school?

No I didn't go to boarding school and get beaten up to raise kids with a dumb blonde and make her family watch  Shocked Shocked Shocked


So, you went to a boarding school. That makes sense. 'I can see clearly now the rain is gone...'
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #68 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:10pm
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:56pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING.

UNFAIR DISMISSAL AND ALL SORTS OF LEGAL SHYTE NEEDS TO BE TOSSED AT THIS TWERP


This is the sort of demented mindset that No voters have to face. Roll Eyes


G, you would be well within your right to fire an employee if they insulted Jesus.

It goes both ways you know.

Are you serious?


So, you disagree that an employer does not have the right to fire an employee if they express an opinion against the mainstream? Many on here have said that 'those who are against SSM' will have to put up with this crap. But, the same could apply to any person who opposes a mainstream belief, right? What if you believe that Australia is racist country? Does an employer have the right to fire her/him for that reason?

You said 'would' not 'could' buddy!

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If the situation happened, would....

A person could....

Get the difference? The first is the conditional tense, the second is 'to be able to'. Didn't you learn grammar in high school?

No I didn't go to boarding school and get beaten up to raise kids with a dumb blonde and make her family watch  Shocked Shocked Shocked


So, you went to a boarding school. That makes sense. 'I can see clearly now the rain is gone...'

I just said that I did not ....  Shocked
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #69 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 6:19pm
 
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

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Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....


If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

Huh Huh Huh


Because you go to a baker and a priest to get food and get married, respectively. They are optional services. When you are an employee or contractor you have signed mutually agreed terms and conditions of employment, which are legal.


Bullshit....It is against the law in Australia right now under the discrimination act to refuse service to anyone based on their sexual orientation....Churches and religious groups want exemptions so they are treated differently from other Australians who are not free to discriminate....It is you who want to change the laws and be treated special!!!

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Discrimination on the basis of sex, marital or relationship status, pregnancy or potential pregnancy, breastfeeding, family responsibilities, sexual orientation, gender identity, and intersex status.

Sexual harassment is also prohibited under this Act.


http://www.humanrights.gov.au/employers/good-practice-good-business-factsheets/q...

There are even laws protecting peoples religious beliefs....Wanting the right to discriminate against the gay community is disgusting, petty and typical of the right!!!

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Reply #70 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 7:27pm
 


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..............Liberal Senator Eric Abetz, a former Employment Minister, said yesterday the action could be a breach of Fair Work laws.
“It is unlawful for an employer to take any action against an employee on the basis of a political opinion,” he said............


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/angry-australian-no-voters-for-sam...
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #71 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
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..............Liberal Senator Eric Abetz, a former Employment Minister, said yesterday the action could be a breach of Fair Work laws.
“It is unlawful for an employer to take any action against an employee on the basis of a political opinion,” he said............


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/gay-marriage/angry-australian-no-voters-for-sam...


Well I "could" be a vampire, but I'm not.
See Federal Court, Australian Defence Force v Bernard Gaynor. He was sacked by the ADF for his political opinions. Termination upheld by the court.
Abetz is an idiot.
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Reply #72 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:00pm
 
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The Australian Defence Force has won an appeal to overturn the reinstatement of an army major who made a series of anti-gay comments including some about a transgender senior officer.

Reservist major Bernard Gaynor was dismissed in 2013 for making “offensive and divisive” statements about homosexual and transgender people and criticising Muslims.

Last year he won an appeal against his sacking, with Federal Court judge Robert Buchanan finding his comments — made online and in press releases — were protected by freedom of political communication laws.

But the Chief of the Defence Force, Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin, launched an appeal, ­arguing political freedom of speech laws do not overrule ADF regulations that allow for an officer to be dismissed if his service is not in the interest of the ADF.

Yesterday, the Full Federal Court, comprising judges Nye Perram, Debra Mortimer and Jacqueline Gleeson, found in the ADF’s favour.

The judges said they believed the primary judge erred in the level at which he applied the Lange test — a test to decide whether a law breaches the implied freedom of political communication.

The judges argued the primary judge should not have analysed the termination decision from a point which treated Mr Gaynor as having a constitutional right to express himself on political matters that had been unduly infringed by the termination decisions.

The judges said they accepted the ADF’s submission that the ­rationale for the restrictions ­imposed on members was the understanding that personnel ­operating in circumstances of grave danger in which reliance upon one another and acceptance of orders were essential.

“Given that reservists are ­liable to be called up at any time and are in any event subject to the same disciplinary and hierarchical requirements, there is no basis to view their position any differently,’’ the judges’ findings state.

“The circumstances of the ­respondent’s comments are in our opinion aptly described as ­extreme, including his refusal to accept and abide by orders and ­directions given to him,’’ the judgment states.

“Any potential harm to the freedom of political communication is outweighed by the need to reserve ... the ability to terminate the service of individuals whose conduct and behaviour places them in a category where their continued presence in the ADF is assessed to be sufficiently serious ... to justify the considerable step of terminating the service of an officer.”

Mr Gaynor said he would seek leave to appeal to the High Court. “This decision sets a damaging precedent in relation to freedom of speech. It is a decision that must be challenged,” he said.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/adf-wins-right-to-kick-...
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #73 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:15pm
 
The High Court refused him permission to appeal.
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Reply #74 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm
 
Hope she sues their arses off.

A Christian teenager who was sacked for saying on Facebook she would vote "no" for same-sex marriage is entitled to make a legal claim under discrimination law, legal experts say.
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #75 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Hope she sues their arses off.

A Christian teenager who was sacked for saying on Facebook she would vote "no" for same-sex marriage is entitled to make a legal claim under discrimination law, legal experts say.


Would a person have the right to fire an employee if she/he made an insult about Jesus in the same manner?
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #76 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 8:34pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 6:19pm:
matty wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:24pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 7:16pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
So the right are worried about cake makers and religious institutions not being able to discriminate based on their beliefs and then they criticise someone who sacks someone based on their beliefs....Go figure....I thought this is what you wanted???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Now that really is a load of cr@p Phyllis....


If its ok for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for someone based on their beliefs why is it not ok to terminate a contract based on your beliefs....If a pastor can withdraw his services because he opposes the opinions of his client why cant a business sack someone who for the same thing???

Huh Huh Huh


Because you go to a baker and a priest to get food and get married, respectively. They are optional services. When you are an employee or contractor you have signed mutually agreed terms and conditions of employment, which are legal.


Bullshit....It is against the law in Australia right now under the discrimination act to refuse service to anyone based on their sexual orientation....Churches and religious groups want exemptions so they are treated differently from other Australians who are not free to discriminate....It is you who want to change the laws and be treated special!!!

Angry Angry Angry

Quote:
Sex Discrimination Act 1984

Discrimination on the basis of sex, marital or relationship status, pregnancy or potential pregnancy, breastfeeding, family responsibilities, sexual orientation, gender identity, and intersex status.

Sexual harassment is also prohibited under this Act.


http://www.humanrights.gov.au/employers/good-practice-good-business-factsheets/q...

There are even laws protecting peoples religious beliefs....Wanting the right to discriminate against the gay community is disgusting, petty and typical of the right!!!

Angry Angry Angry


It shoudn't be. I'm not obliged to provide you with a service. BTW, if the person refuses service to gay person, that's a stupid business decision. They'll just go somewhere else.
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Reply #77 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:04pm
 
"This establishment reserves the right to refuse service..."
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Reply #78 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
"This establishment reserves the right to refuse service..."


No, Grappler, a person who offers a service has no right, duty or obligation to offer his/her services to a person.

Capitalism is colour-blind; it doesn't care what your race is. If you have money and can afford to purchase the good, then the business owner doesn't care.
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Re: aggressive left sacks those voting NO
Reply #79 - Sep 21st, 2017 at 12:22am
 
Auggie wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:08pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
"This establishment reserves the right to refuse service..."


No, Grappler, a person who offers a service has no right, duty or obligation to offer his/her services to a person.

Capitalism is colour-blind; it doesn't care what your race is. If you have money and can afford to purchase the good, then the business owner doesn't care.


I'll tell the manager that the next time I'm kicked out of a pub because my ex is there with her new bloke....

"We reserve the right to refuse service'....

The business owner can choose..... an arms dealer doesn't have to sell to IS....
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