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Labor Demands Michella Cash Face inquiry
Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
Michaelia Cash: Labor demands Minister face inquiry for possible breach of ministerial standards

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September 18 2017


Federal Labor is demanding an independent inquiry into whether Employment Minister Michaelia Cash breached ministerial standards and tried to keep allegations against the former head of the construction watchdog quiet from Cabinet.   Sad
Key points:

    Cash knew of allegations Hadgkiss breached Fair Work Act
    Cash did not notify Cabinet of breach when Hadgkiss was appointed ABCC commissioner
    Turnbull says Hadgkiss' appointment to ABCC was act of Parliament
    Shadow employment minister says legislation would need Cabinet approval

Nigel Hadgkiss resigned as commissioner of the Australian Building and Construction Commission (ABCC) last week, after admitting he broke Fair Work Act laws between January 2014 and July 2016.

In the Federal Court, Mr Hadgkiss admitted he knew about material distributed by the precursor to the ABCC, the Fair Work Building and Construction Commission (FWBC), that suggested employers could make reasonable requests to stop union officials holding meetings in workplaces.

Under changes to the laws, the employer no longer had that right and unions could meet workers in meal rooms for talks if needed.

Mr Hadgkiss was the head of the FWBC at the time.

Last week, Senator Cash told Parliament she had been made aware of the allegations In October 2016 — but Mr Hadgkiss was appointed commissioner of the ABCC in December 2016.

Shadow employment minister Brendan O'Connor argued the resignation of Mr Hadgkiss should not mean the search for accountability ends.

"Of course the Government doesn't have a loyalty gene, of course they were going to immediately throw Mr Hadgkiss under the bus," Mr O'Connor told ABC RN.

    "But this is about whether in fact the Minister should have reported this matter, disclosed this matter to Cabinet."

The allegations by the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU), prompted Senator Cash to defend her handling of the matter.

She said it would be wrong for the Government to stand down a government official every time the CFMEU made an accusation against them — suggesting the union had a reputation for being litigious.

    "The litigation that is referred to was public knowledge, so that's the first point," Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told reporters.

"Secondly, it obviously had to take its course.

"Thirdly, Mr Hadgkiss became the ABCC commissioner by virtue of an act of Parliament, because he was already the commissioner of the Fair Work Building Commission, which then became transformed into the Australian Building and Construction Commission, and given obviously stronger powers and the ability to levy greater fines."

But Mr O'Connor argued that legislation would have had to be signed off by Cabinet, which was either not told about the allegations by Senator Cash or ignored them.

"If Cabinet made a decision about the transitional provisions without being provided information about the allegations against Mr Hadgkiss, yes, then I believe there is a ministerial breach here," Mr O'Connor said.   Sad

"We've asked the Prime Minister to examine this independently and come back with the answers.
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Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
"Of course the Government doesn't have a loyalty gene, of course they were going to immediately throw Mr Hadgkiss under the bus," Mr O'Connor told ABC RN.   Smiley   
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Reply #2 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:52pm
 
Nothing would make me happier than someone stomping on her head
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Reply #3 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 6:50pm
 
The ultra Lefty BlackDay is ramping up the onslaught of meaningless fake GetUp! propaganda.

What will Bull S. have as a scare campaign this election for GetUp! to harass citizens with fake telephone calls like the Medicare FRAUD last time ?
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Reply #4 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:12pm
 
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
The ultra Lefty BlackDay is ramping up the onslaught of meaningless fake GetUp! propaganda.

What will Bull S. have as a scare campaign this election for GetUp! to harass citizens with fake telephone calls like the Medicare FRAUD last time ?


Juliar, you're a fortune cookie that keeps on giving. All the way to indigestion!
Love those Confucius-like Mal-inspired aphorisms  that you brighten our day with!
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Reply #5 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:26pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Michaelia Cash: Labor demands Minister face inquiry for possible breach of ministerial standards



There has been a dearth of ministerial standards on both sides for years. Why start now? Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:42pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
whiteknight wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Michaelia Cash: Labor demands Minister face inquiry for possible breach of ministerial standards



There has been a dearth of ministerial standards on both sides for years. Why start now? Roll Eyes


Yes, both sides are culpable. But if you never start, you never start.

The govt will ignore all criticism. They do that because they have contempt for the public.

After all, what are you or I going to do??

Vote them out in X number of years??

But both sides do it.
So then vote the other mob out??

Blah blah deja freakin vu.
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Reply #7 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:44pm
 
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
The ultra Lefty BlackDay is ramping up the onslaught of meaningless fake GetUp! propaganda.

What will Bull S. have as a scare campaign this election for GetUp! to harass citizens with fake telephone calls like the Medicare FRAUD last time ?

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.
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Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
whiteknight wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Michaelia Cash: Labor demands Minister face inquiry for possible breach of ministerial standards

There has been a dearth of ministerial standards on both sides for years. Why start now? Roll Eyes

To give the Coalition a chance to win the next Federal election.

If the Coalition won't sack poorly-performing Ministers, the people will surely do it for them at the next election.
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Reply #9 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
The ultra Lefty BlackDay is ramping up the onslaught of meaningless fake GetUp! propaganda.

What will Bull S. have as a scare campaign this election for GetUp! to harass citizens with fake telephone calls like the Medicare FRAUD last time ?

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.


I don't know is it against ministerial standards to appoint someone to head the building commission which is the building industries industrial watchdog when you are aware that the person has deliberately breached industrial laws ???

In the Liberals view being willing to disadvantage workers by breaching industrial law is a desirable characteristic for the head of the Building watchdog.

Very much in line with Liberal party standards of recent decades.
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Reply #10 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 8:17pm
 
www.pmc.gov.au/resource-centre/government/statement-ministerial-standards

Statement of Ministerial Standards

Ministers and Parliamentary Secretaries are entrusted with the conduct of public business and must act in a manner that is consistent with the highest standards of integrity and propriety.
In addition to those requirements, it is vital that Ministers and Parliamentary Secretaries conduct themselves in a manner that will ensure public confidence in them and in the government.

Pardon??
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Reply #11 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 8:19pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
The ultra Lefty BlackDay is ramping up the onslaught of meaningless fake GetUp! propaganda.

What will Bull S. have as a scare campaign this election for GetUp! to harass citizens with fake telephone calls like the Medicare FRAUD last time ?

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.


I don't know is it against ministerial standards to appoint someone to head the building commission which is the building industries industrial watchdog when you are aware that the person has deliberately breached industrial laws ???

In the Liberals view being willing to disadvantage workers by breaching industrial law is a desirable characteristic for the head of the Building watchdog.

Very much in line with Liberal party standards of recent decades.


Less party standards and more party requirements?
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Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 8:25pm
 
Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
To give the Coalition a chance to win the next Federal election.

If the Coalition won't sack poorly-performing Ministers, the people will surely do it for them at the next election.



Seems a win-win for Labor, if they do nothing. Wink
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Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 9:05pm
 
The people demand Michaela Cash face a court...
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Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 9:07pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:26pm:
whiteknight wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
Michaelia Cash: Labor demands Minister face inquiry for possible breach of ministerial standards



There has been a dearth of ministerial standards on both sides for years. Why start now? Roll Eyes


Start with the most rotten fish and move on from there...
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Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
To give the Coalition a chance to win the next Federal election.

If the Coalition won't sack poorly-performing Ministers, the people will surely do it for them at the next election.

Seems a win-win for Labor, if they do nothing. Wink

It's already too late for the Coalition. Acting now though may save a few seats. Dutton must be getting nervous.
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Reply #16 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 12:04am
 
The Lefties are doing their silly copy and Xing out caper that ONLY a Lefty would bother with as it is so ineffective and nothing more than an admission of failure to be able to present any argument.

But enuff on the boring Lefties and back to the TOPIC.

Now what this is REALLY all about, dispensing with the GetUp! style bulldust, is that Mrs Cash has gotten Bull S. on the hot plate over his GetUp! involvement and so the Labor drongos are trying to trump up some fake stuff about Mrs Cash.


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juliar wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 12:04am:
The Lefties are doing their silly copy and Xing out caper that ONLY a Lefty would bother with as it is so ineffective and nothing more than an admission of failure to be able to present any argument.

But enuff on the boring Lefties and back to the TOPIC.

Now what this is REALLY all about, dispensing with the GetUp! style bulldust, is that Mrs Cash has gotten Bull S. on the hot plate over his GetUp! involvement and so the Labor drongos are trying to trump up some fake stuff about Mrs Cash.

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.
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Reply #18 - Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:30pm
 
Bam wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 12:04am:
The Lefties are doing their silly copy and Xing out caper that ONLY a Lefty would bother with as it is so ineffective and nothing more than an admission of failure to be able to present any argument.

But enuff on the boring Lefties and back to the TOPIC.

Now what this is REALLY all about, dispensing with the GetUp! style bulldust, is that Mrs Cash has gotten Bull S. on the hot plate over his GetUp! involvement and so the Labor drongos are trying to trump up some fake stuff about Mrs Cash.

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.


Since the answer is 'yes', the only defense left is deflection and diversions.
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Reply #19 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:04pm
 
stunspore wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
Bam wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
juliar wrote on Sep 19th, 2017 at 12:04am:
The Lefties are doing their silly copy and Xing out caper that ONLY a Lefty would bother with as it is so ineffective and nothing more than an admission of failure to be able to present any argument.

But enuff on the boring Lefties and back to the TOPIC.

Now what this is REALLY all about, dispensing with the GetUp! style bulldust, is that Mrs Cash has gotten Bull S. on the hot plate over his GetUp! involvement and so the Labor drongos are trying to trump up some fake stuff about Mrs Cash.

The topic is whether Michaela Cash is in breach of Ministerial standards. Do try to keep up.

Since the answer is 'yes', the only defense left is deflection and diversions.

If Turnbull refuses to sack this Minister, the only action left is for the people to do it for him at the next election.
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