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Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:31am
 
Not that there's anything wrong with that, I love the winter.
But has it been that long? Maybe it's just me but I think your perception of the weather gets reset every year and you don't really remember from year to year. I'm sitting here thinking I've been burning this log fire since April sometime and there's a howling gale outside and it's freezing in the middle of September and it's never gone on this long. But I seem to remember sometimes I've had to put the fire on at the October long weekend.
Your memory plays tricks when it comes to the weather.

Doesn't seem to be a problem with summer though. I judge whether it's been a hot summer according to if and how many 44 or 45 degree days there have been. Last summer there were none. The summer before there might have been one.

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Reply #1 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:38am
 
but according to the loopy's its been the hottest winter Eva  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

and yes... the Climate Hoax Loopy's depend on you forgetting what its been like in other years... when you were growing up etc...

and yes... last summer was very cool with more rain than usual... but lets all forget that... shhhh Wink

but the BOM... they are just out and out crooks adjusting historic temperatures and using temperature gauges that WONT go below a certain temperature..
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Reply #2 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:46am
 
ACT   it was 20 at the beginning of the week.. my ideal temp... today 13  and last night damn cold...

its really spring like...lol..  how unusual.

and those fires in Sydney   a man charged with lighting 3 of them.....so not GW after all.


what is it with men and fires???>...these guys need putting away... they make me sick.
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Reply #4 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:58am
 
Still no sign of spring weather in Melbourne yet.
It' cold & raining every day & it will continue for at least another week.
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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:06am
 
cods wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:46am:
ACT   it was 20 at the beginning of the week.. my ideal temp... today 13  and last night damn cold...

its really spring like...lol..  how unusual.

and those fires in Sydney   a man charged with lighting 3 of them.....so not GW after all.


what is it with men and fires???>...these guys need putting away... they make me sick.


the greens always like to leave out that little FACT cods... wink wink
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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:20am
 
-> Human <- caused climate change.

A human completed one of the loops !
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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:32am
 
____ wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:20am:
-> Human <- caused climate change.

A human completed one of the loops !



maybe this guy they have charged   is a greeny we could find out..

lets face it its the greens that refuse to allow back burn
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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:41am
 
Cods, are you an anti-vaxxer too?

I've heard AGW deniers described as today's Marlboro Man ... yet with your dishonesty, I suspect an anti vaxer would be closer.
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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:49am
 
____ wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:41am:
Cods, are you an anti-vaxxer too?

I've heard AGW deniers described as today's Marlboro Man ... yet with your dishonesty, I suspect an anti vaxer would be closer.


Rack off knob head 99% of the anti-vexes are green lunatics as well  Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:52am
 
Speaking of the BOM, and before my phone battery runs out, I'd like to know how they measure Australia's average temp.

Do they:
1. Take readings all over the country and weight them according to square km at certain temps

2. Take readings all over but weight them according to population density, ie. so you get an average temp according to where most people live.

How do they do it? I mean, it will be hot in the Simpson Desert but I don't. feel much effect from that.
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Reply #11 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:56am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:49am:
____ wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:41am:
Cods, are you an anti-vaxxer too?

I've heard AGW deniers described as today's Marlboro Man ... yet with your dishonesty, I suspect an anti vaxer would be closer.


Rack off knob head 99% of the anti-vexes are green lunatics as well  Roll Eyes




94.5% of the statistics on this site are made up.

Climate Science Deniers are the modern day Tobacco Threat Deniers.

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Reply #12 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:57am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:31am:

Not that there's anything wrong with that, I love the winter.

But has it been that long?




bogarde,

As you get older, the winters tend to get longer.            Wink                 Yes ?          Grin


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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:07am
 
I don't think so Yadda. But I do remember when I was a schoolboy in Sydney we would never wear a jumper in winter
But that was probably bravado and I notice the kids are the same today. Not just the kids but young people generally. But maybe they can't afford warm.clothes. Nobody wears wool anymore, in the land of the sheep, where we once manufactured woolen clothes and Onkaparinga blankets.
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Reply #14 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:16am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:49am:
____ wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:41am:
Cods, are you an anti-vaxxer too?

I've heard AGW deniers described as today's Marlboro Man ... yet with your dishonesty, I suspect an anti vaxer would be closer.


Rack off knob head 99% of the anti-vexes are green lunatics as well  Roll Eyes


Correct.
The lowest rates of vaccination in Sydney is in the inner west.. GREEN
Northern Rivers, Mullumbimby etc... GREEN

The Party for Pedophiles is also the Party for Pestilence   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #15 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:20am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:07am:
I don't think so Yadda. But I do remember when I was a schoolboy in Sydney we would never wear a jumper in winter
But that was probably bravado and I notice the kids are the same today. Not just the kids but young people generally. But maybe they can't afford warm.clothes. Nobody wears wool anymore, in the land of the sheep, where we once manufactured woolen clothes and Onkaparinga blankets.


You can get a down jacket which is cheaper and warmer Smiley

We had mid 30s on Wednesday, perfect beach weather. Thursday was freezing!!!
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Reply #16 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:11am
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:20am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:07am:
I don't think so Yadda. But I do remember when I was a schoolboy in Sydney we would never wear a jumper in winter
But that was probably bravado and I notice the kids are the same today. Not just the kids but young people generally. But maybe they can't afford warm.clothes. Nobody wears wool anymore, in the land of the sheep, where we once manufactured woolen clothes and Onkaparinga blankets.


You can get a down jacket which is cheaper and warmer Smiley

We had mid 30s on Wednesday, perfect beach weather. Thursday was freezing!!!


but they didn't talk about "Thursday" ...

but boy.. did everyone in the entire Australia hear about Wednesday...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

how convenient..

yesterday for instance...

Melbourne didn't reach its highest temperature until 5.30 pm... like WTF??

how is the possible when the suns going down and everywhere else is freezing??

oh, thats right.. everyone starting their cars up and going home in bumper to bumper traffic close to weather temp gauges...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #17 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:37am
 
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/australias-snow-depth-reaches-new-peak/526860
Australia's snow depth reaches new peak



Ben Domensino, Friday September 15, 2017 - 09:28 EST

The Australian alps are having their best snow season in nearly two decades and the base just keeps getting deeper.

Snowy Hydro's weekly snow depth readings at Spencers Creek in NSW are a reliable way to keep track of Australia's natural snowpack.

These measurements have been taken at the same site once a week - usually on Thursday - since the mid 1950s.

Yesterday's natural snow depth was 239.7cm, which maintains last week's ranking as the highest level in 17 years for Spencers Creek.

The current natural snowpack is 69cm higher than last season's peak.

Another impressive feat this season has been the lack of snow loss, with ten out of the past 11 weeks experiencing a net snow gain at Spencers Creek.

The last two and a half months have been an impressive recovery from one of the slowest starts to a season on record. There was only 4cm of natural snow at Spencers Creek at the end of June.

Another 20-30cm of fresh snow should fall in the alps during Friday and Saturday due to the passage of a cold front.

Clear skies and lighter winds will develop on Sunday as a high pressure system drifts over the mountains, producing flawless conditions at the resorts.

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Reply #18 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 2:00pm
 
Where are the climate scientists???????

I repeat:

Speaking of the BOM, and before my phone battery runs out, I'd like to know how they measure Australia's average temp.

Do they:
1. Take readings all over the country and weight them according to square km at certain temps

2. Take readings all over but weight them according to population density, ie. so you get an average temp according to where most people live.

How do they do it? I mean, it will be hot in the Simpson Desert but I don't feel much effect from that.
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Reply #19 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 5:56pm
 
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You know, it's a shame that ignorance is so prevalent amongst the Climate Change deniers.  I suppose they can always turn to their Bibles for inspiration.   It is afterall, the word of god, isn't it?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:51am
 
If you can't actually answer my question why waste my time with dribble.
Not that I would expect logic from a notorious Muslim apologist. Your time would be better served over at the Europe board explaining away yet another terrorist outrage.

I'm looking for a serious answer from a serious person, not babbling from a baboon.
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Reply #21 - Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:26am
 
I might continue to prompt a response from time to time but it appears nobody here knows  the answer or is prepared to say.
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Reply #22 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:55am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Speaking of the BOM, I'd like to know how they measure Australia's average temp.

Do they:
1. Take readings all over the country and weight them according to square km at certain temps

2. Take readings all over but weight them according to population density, ie. so you get an average temp according to where most people live.

How do they do it? I mean, it will be hot in the Simpson Desert but I don't feel much effect from that.


Option 1 is correct
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Reply #23 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:56am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:55am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Speaking of the BOM, I'd like to know how they measure Australia's average temp.

Do they:
1. Take readings all over the country and weight them according to square km at certain temps

2. Take readings all over but weight them according to population density, ie. so you get an average temp according to where most people live.

How do they do it? I mean, it will be hot in the Simpson Desert but I don't feel much effect from that.


Option 1 is correct


Where do you get that information from?
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Reply #24 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 12:20pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:56am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 11:55am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 2:00pm:
Speaking of the BOM, I'd like to know how they measure Australia's average temp.

Do they:
1. Take readings all over the country and weight them according to square km at certain temps

2. Take readings all over but weight them according to population density, ie. so you get an average temp according to where most people live.

How do they do it? I mean, it will be hot in the Simpson Desert but I don't feel much effect from that.


Option 1 is correct


Where do you get that information from?


If you like you can read about it from a denier website

The Bureau’s solution is to select a subset of about 112 stations from the 750. Some of the stations in the subset started recording temperatures in the 1850s, others not until the 1960s. Then the bureau truncates the longer temperature records, in some cases by discarding over 50 years of data, indeed everything before the somewhat arbitrary date of 1910. Data before this date is not considered reliable, but then the Bureau applies corrections to some of the rest of the data even though it should be reliable. Then the adjusted and truncated values from the subset are fitted to a grid to generate an area-weighted average of the data.

http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/01/bureau-confirms-calculating-australias-avera...
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Reply #25 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 12:40pm
 

Well, if you all looked at the Aboriginal 'seasonal' calenders for your part of the country.
You would find that their 8-12 seasons are far more accurate and still accurate compared to the silly 4-season Western one which everyone is fixated on.

That would be a great start ...for starters Tongue
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Reply #26 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 3:52pm
 
Barnacle, what that says to me is that the BOM's average temp for Australia, on the basis of which they tell us it was a hot winter and a hot (Hottest?) year, is a b/s extrapolation.

What matters to us is what is the average temp according to the population density and also according to agriculturally productive areas.
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Reply #27 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 3:52pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 6:51am:
If you can't actually answer my question why waste my time with dribble.
Not that I would expect logic from a notorious Muslim apologist. Your time would be better served over at the Europe board explaining away yet another terrorist outrage.

I'm looking for a serious answer from a serious person, not babbling from a baboon.


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When someone as foolish as yourself treats me with respect, I might deign to answer your question.  However, as you have started out with a negative viewpoint and carried that onto ad hominem insults, I don't see any point.   The knowledge is out there, if you have an open mind and some basic scientific knowledge.   Search for it yourself.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 5:26pm
 
Best snow in years eh bwian, you know how warming affects snow right?
So good in fact they just extended our snow season?
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Pity dropkicks like you and Flannery are always wrong.

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Reply #29 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 6:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:58am:
Still no sign of spring weather in Melbourne yet.
It' cold & raining every day & it will continue for at least another week.


It has been a nice warm and fresh spring week for the last 2 weeks. Coolish the other night, but okay from then onwards. I would swap our winter for your winter next year. See how long you whinge about a dry warm winter with cool nights.
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Reply #31 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 9:37pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 3:52pm:
Barnacle, what that says to me is that the BOM's average temp for Australia, on the basis of which they tell us it was a hot winter and a hot (Hottest?) year, is a b/s extrapolation.

What matters to us is what is the average temp according to the population density and also according to agriculturally productive areas.


Well that's the difference between local weather and long term climate
Climate is calculated independent of population density which is as it should be.
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Reply #32 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 9:52pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:58am:
Still no sign of spring weather in Melbourne yet.
It' cold & raining every day & it will continue for at least another week.


It has been a nice warm and fresh spring week for the last 2 weeks. Coolish the other night, but okay from then onwards. I would swap our winter for your winter next year. See how long you whinge about a dry warm winter with cool nights.


We're getting our first hot day for about 5 months tomorrow   22 degrees!  wow

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Reply #33 - Sep 21st, 2017 at 1:51am
 
Still pretty cool at nights here - on the Mid North Coast of NSW.... brrrrrr... still doona and two blankets...
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Reply #34 - Sep 21st, 2017 at 1:54am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 17th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:58am:
Still no sign of spring weather in Melbourne yet.
It' cold & raining every day & it will continue for at least another week.


It has been a nice warm and fresh spring week for the last 2 weeks. Coolish the other night, but okay from then onwards. I would swap our winter for your winter next year. See how long you whinge about a dry warm winter with cool nights.


We're getting our first hot day for about 5 months tomorrow   22 degrees!  wow

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


We are getting set for our first week-long heatwave, starting Friday. We have been having our 30 degree days for the last month. Only 3 weeks ago since we had below 10 degree nights (save for one night the other week).

I have shut off my hot water system in anticipation for the hot weather. I have not seen 22 degrees as a hot day ever. A hot night for spring or autumn, perhaps. Never for a summer, autumn, or spring day. Even in winter, we would consider it a sunny day.
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Reply #35 - Sep 21st, 2017 at 1:59am
 
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Still pretty cool at nights here - on the Mid North Coast of NSW.... brrrrrr... still doona and two blankets...


I slept from 5am to 3pm today with the fan on, the window open and a fresh set of sheets and doona. Was sweating by 2pm and just lay their like an idiot deciding whether to get up and sleep on. Slept again with the doona off and I felt much better.
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