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Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.
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Reply #2 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:03am
 
because they lack direction in life.
they have fallen for the group think message that the meaning of life is to

1  pleasure yourself
2  just cope.  just cope with this harsh world.

when you have no north star, when you have no passion, when all you can see is "me,me,me and my little story" then you are screwed.

if you cant get into expansive light fun energy which is always associated with moving towards a goal, then you are going to become a drifter.

previous generations could not drift.

the evolutionary blowtorch was applied to them and they contributed value to the tribe or they were treated as garbage.

but now people really feel that they can contribute nothing, just be a little taker, and still maintain "worth".

we all know deep down, that this is untrue.

once you stop contributing
once you lose a north star
once you lose momentum

you are farrrrrrrrked  Wink
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I HAVE passion.

You can see me spit it out every day.
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No, sorry . . .that's venom.
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Reply #5 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:16am
 
your posts are contributory bogarde and there is humor in them
same as herbert
this is part of "raising the vibration".
your aim should be to "leave the forum "better then you found it.
the people who seek to destroy and seek to leave the forum "worse then they found it" are a concern.
a genuine suicide risk.

if ever i get down , i go do some work with landcare or riding for the disabled because it cant help but be "expansive energy"
if you have a section of riverbank and you clear out the stinging nettles and the lantana and the lawyer vine and then you sit on the nice grass, you can literally feel that you have "left something better then you found it".

and when you are doing this, nature will reward you, nature will seep into your neurology and make you mentally  healthy because you are an ally to nature.

i think at a subconscious level a lot of the inner city greens hate and despise themselves because they know they are an imposition on nature. they try to cover this up by driving a prius or eating no meat or having no kids but they still are not really leaving nature better then they found it.

if they come out to my valley, i can give them infinite work to sooth this psychopathology, but if you are stuck in negative self talk, its hard to see your way thru the fog of this toxic self narrative
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bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


What's the go?  Is is 'free kick at Mothra week?'
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Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

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Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

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The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

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The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

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VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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Reply #9 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 12:26pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.

I was just about to say feminists: tho I would suppose Mothra isn't the type to get herself into deep deep water and expect emotional support for the rest of her life!

It takes all types I suppose... Then there's dad!

I bought one of those chilli plants once and my nephew made me throw it out! Not worth it he said and showed me a few videos on YouTube and I put the thing straight in the bin!

Birds eyes are bad enough for me!
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Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:17am:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


What's the go?  Is is 'free kick at Mothra week?'

She loves us!
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bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.
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Reply #12 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.



What? Women you can't stop obsessing over?

That's down to you, Bogey. All down to you.
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Reply #13 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:16pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.



What? Women you can't stop obsessing over?

That's down to you, Bogey. All down to you.



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Reply #14 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

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Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

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The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

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The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.
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cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

Quote:


Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

~~~

The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

~~~

The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.

Men cry: It's just no one gives a shite!

Women don't care when a man cries: I have never understood that!

Why did mum have a kid: she got her house and biscuits and cheese and forgot about her kid... etc!

Suicide normally involves smoking too many drugs before work... but there is a reason why that happens!

Not only mums, but also dads have a lot to answer for: greed is a big reason why people suicide_ if financially you are not keeping up with your mates or the rest of the world then people simple aren't there for you because they are too busy and then it's too late.

It's horrible. I know possibly seven blokes that have suicided and one woman. .... it's very sad !!

That all happened in our twenties.
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Reply #18 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

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Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

~~~

The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

~~~

The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.
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Men do the hard yards in life, thats just a fact.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

Quote:


Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

~~~

The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

~~~

The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.


Indeed. That is what all the evidence suggests.

Toxic masculinity. It's killing men and boys ... and is absolutely no good for women and girls either.
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Reply #21 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:56pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

Quote:


Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

~~~

The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

~~~

The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.


Indeed. That is what all the evidence suggests.

Toxic masculinity. It's killing men and boys ... and is absolutely no good for women and girls either.

Once again: it's all a mans fault as told by the usual suspects  Shocked
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Absolute codswallop. Some professions cant get life insurance due to high suicide rates. These are all highly male dominated professions. Secretarial work hardly exposes anyone to the same trauma. This new age far left lesbo theory of "toxic masculinity" is a load of rubbish invented by the femo nazis.
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rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Absolute codswallop. Some professions cant get life insurance due to high suicide rates. These are all highly male dominated professions. Secretarial work hardly exposes anyone to the same trauma. This new age far left lesbo theory of "toxic masculinity" is a load of rubbish invented by the femo nazis.



It's funny when Rhino tries to think.
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Reply #24 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:06pm
 
Well at least he tries mothra... 
and succeeds where you fail.

Just having a little troll were you dearie?

Others are so much better at it and everything else than you.

Back on topic...

Depression is a main cause.
Brought on by feelings of hopelessness usually.
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There you go, Rhino. Grendel's a fan. Validated?
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Grendel wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:06pm:
Well at least he tries mothra... 
and succeeds where you fail.

Just having a little troll were you dearie?

Others are so much better at it and everything else than you.

Back on topic...

Depression is a main cause.
Brought on by feelings of hopelessness usually.

The hopelessness of being born to a feminazi perhaps  Roll Eyes

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Some professions cant get life insurance due to high suicide rates.


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The highest suicide rates are among the professions which are dominated by men and have constant exposure to trauma. Doctors fit into this category and have a correspondingly high suicide rate. Just the facts, but dont let them get in the way of some crackpot femo nazi theory about men not confronting their emotions. All designed of course by the far left Lesbo man hating movement to show that men would be just like women if only we would get rid of our "toxic emotions" which according to the men haters cause every known problem in the world.
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The myth of toxic masculinity, dont buy into it, its fabricated nonsense.

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The ‘Toxic Masculinity’ Trend Blames Boys For Being Born Male
Healthy masculinity is exactly what our young boys need to be taught right now, not embarrassment at the way they are made.

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rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
The highest suicide rates are among the professions which are dominated by men and have constant exposure to trauma. Doctors fit into this category and have a correspondingly high suicide rate. Just the facts, but dont let them get in the way of some crackpot femo nazi theory about men not confronting their emotions. All designed of course by the far left Lesbo man hating movement to show that men would be just like women if only we would get rid of our "toxic emotions" which according to the men haters cause every known problem in the world.



Female doctors and nurses at least three times more likely to commit suicide: study

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-19/female-health-professionals-at-higher-risk...



Over the past 30 years, there have been some great achievements in gender equity. The number of women enrolled in professional degrees, such as law and medicine, rose from less than 25% in the 1970s to more than 50% in 2015. Australia has introduced a number of equal opportunity policies in health care and in 2000 achieved gender parity in medical schools.

Today, women are typically the dominant group within medical schools and yet remain under-represented in formal leadership positions and particular speciality areas. Although today there is greater female participation in medical roles, it still appears that women are hitting the glass ceiling.


https://theconversation.com/female-doctors-in-australia-are-hitting-glass-ceilin...
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No woman ever had a toxic emotion...
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

Quote:


Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

~~~

The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

~~~

The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

~~~

VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

~~~~





do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.



expectations are higher......you are meant to be stronger  and have all the answers..

I find the stats to be very sad and very alarming to be honest...we need to give men back their self esteem  I dont blame the fair sex  entirely  but we never seem to give credit where its due anymore...

I am not sure I would want to be a man to be honest....I have always thought you had the best of the deal....if I can call it that.....but not anymore...I look at  my beautiful grandsons. I have 5   and I am always telling them how important they are and how proud I am of what they do I give them a pat on the back no matter how small the deed...one of them won the Golden Gloves in Qld  I am not happy he is boxing  but I couldnt be prouder of him  not becaus ehe won.. because he keep trying he works two jobs. is studying at CITS.....turns up at all our family do's...hes 21 a credit to mum and dad...

its just what I would want for every young man out there...
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Boxers normally have a clue.
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rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
The highest suicide rates are among the professions which are dominated by men and have constant exposure to trauma. Doctors fit into this category and have a correspondingly high suicide rate. Just the facts, but dont let them get in the way of some crackpot femo nazi theory about men not confronting their emotions. All designed of course by the far left Lesbo man hating movement to show that men would be just like women if only we would get rid of our "toxic emotions" which according to the men haters cause every known problem in the world.



strangely enough the Psychiatry profession has a very high level of suicide  among their  specialists.....


what does that tell us?....


we are not coping and the modern world is getting harder to live in...nothing is simple anymore....

look at us for instance we come on here knowing full well we can end up in a nasty argument   that really goes nowhere.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

we barely make any attempt to see others point of view....

please dont tell me this does not affect people!
  what goes on on here does....some worse than others...but to pretend it doesnt put your back up or makes you flaming angry   I dont believe it...

this is  road rage in cyberspace....

some folks make me want to give up   others just ping me off.....


I cant imagine what it would be like to work day in day out with them.....and probably they think the same with me... Smiley
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TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Boxers normally have a clue.



he would have you figured out thats for sure.. Smiley
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cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Boxers normally have a clue.



he would have you figured out thats for sure.. Smiley

Look for the neck muscles and that's how you spot boxers!
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Reply #37 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:44pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Boxers normally have a clue.



he would have you figured out thats for sure.. Smiley

Look for the neck muscles and that's how you spot boxers!




he is as skinny as can be...yep he has built up a few muscles where he needs too but not in the neck  he doesnt fight with his neck..
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Reply #38 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:58pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:22pm:
Boxers normally have a clue.



he would have you figured out thats for sure.. Smiley

Look for the neck muscles and that's how you spot boxers!




he is as skinny as can be...yep he has built up a few muscles where he needs too but not in the neck  he doesnt fight with his neck..

How does he take a punch?
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They have no path for their valour any more, so they turn inwards and seek to destroy themselves rather than seeking out and destroying their true enemies....

The emasculation of western society is to blame - and the clear reason for that was so as to compel a powerless and compliant working class subject to total control and willing to accept serfdom as their new lot, along with endemic poverty for many.....

Power in their families, their workplace, their daily life in every way has been steadily removed from them and in some cases handed directly to other social groups; they are subject to a reign of terror watching over their shoulder in case the old girl throws a hissy fit and starts a house war with them using the power of the State; in applying for any job they must supplicate themselves to the gods of political correctness and are not permitted to over-perform lest they create stress on their fellow female employees (as in the public service); they are not even permitted a voice in any of the issues that impact directly against them..... and thus so many despair....

No wonder the peasants are revolting......

What is needed are some Camp Grapplers to instill in them a sense of self worth and value and clarify their thinking so they can go forth and trash their enemies.
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We all know today is RU OK day right?

I mean this sincerely..hope we're all OK today  Smiley
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Gordon wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:16pm:
We all know today is RU OK day right?

I mean this sincerely..hope we're all OK today  Smiley




me too......dont forget its OK to speak up if your not...
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TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.
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Reply #43 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:20pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:16pm:
We all know today is RU OK day right?

I mean this sincerely..hope we're all OK today  Smiley




me too......dont forget its OK to speak up if your not...


How about for the rest of the day we all call a truce and put all of the BS aside and talk about food, books, movies, kids, dogs....

We can rip each other to shreds again tomorrow Wink
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mothra wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
The highest suicide rates are among the professions which are dominated by men and have constant exposure to trauma. Doctors fit into this category and have a correspondingly high suicide rate. Just the facts, but dont let them get in the way of some crackpot femo nazi theory about men not confronting their emotions. All designed of course by the far left Lesbo man hating movement to show that men would be just like women if only we would get rid of our "toxic emotions" which according to the men haters cause every known problem in the world.



Female doctors and nurses at least three times more likely to commit suicide: study

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-19/female-health-professionals-at-higher-risk...



Over the past 30 years, there have been some great achievements in gender equity. The number of women enrolled in professional degrees, such as law and medicine, rose from less than 25% in the 1970s to more than 50% in 2015. Australia has introduced a number of equal opportunity policies in health care and in 2000 achieved gender parity in medical schools.

Today, women are typically the dominant group within medical schools and yet remain under-represented in formal leadership positions and particular speciality areas. Although today there is greater female participation in medical roles, it still appears that women are hitting the glass ceiling.


https://theconversation.com/female-doctors-in-australia-are-hitting-glass-ceilin...




That's absolutely appalling.

I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist.

I know from close personal observation as a hospital patient that the student nurses, the registered nurses, and the Ward sisters are run off their feet in a very stressful environment.
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Reply #45 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:03pm
 
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Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


Very well said.

Mothra is intelligent, but her years at university corrupted this intelligence with all sorts of Social-Marxist idealism that has stayed with her as an ideology set in concrete, never to be modified by reasonable contradictory argument.

In other words she's a Marxist Cult follower every bit as much in a mental strait-jacket as the deplorable Marla from Colorada who sucks bongs when she's not sucking Whoooaa! This is a Family Friendly program, and so I think we'll hold it right there.
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"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
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Reply #47 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
The highest suicide rates are among the professions which are dominated by men and have constant exposure to trauma. Doctors fit into this category and have a correspondingly high suicide rate. Just the facts, but dont let them get in the way of some crackpot femo nazi theory about men not confronting their emotions. All designed of course by the far left Lesbo man hating movement to show that men would be just like women if only we would get rid of our "toxic emotions" which according to the men haters cause every known problem in the world.



Female doctors and nurses at least three times more likely to commit suicide: study

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-19/female-health-professionals-at-higher-risk...



Over the past 30 years, there have been some great achievements in gender equity. The number of women enrolled in professional degrees, such as law and medicine, rose from less than 25% in the 1970s to more than 50% in 2015. Australia has introduced a number of equal opportunity policies in health care and in 2000 achieved gender parity in medical schools.

Today, women are typically the dominant group within medical schools and yet remain under-represented in formal leadership positions and particular speciality areas. Although today there is greater female participation in medical roles, it still appears that women are hitting the glass ceiling.


https://theconversation.com/female-doctors-in-australia-are-hitting-glass-ceilin...
Thanks Mothra, this article also obviously now supports the fact that it is not maleness which raises suicide rates but exposure to trauma as I stated previously. Congrats for getting there so quickly. And of course high suicide rates in emergency services like Police, Fire etc. which are primarily male.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...


At one time they were at the top of the suicide list.

They commit suicide because after many years of university study to qualify as psychiatrists they then discover that in the real world of clinical practice they are almost always as useless as tits on a bull. For a while they can delude themselves, but after a few years these apologist rationalisations can no longer be sustained, and that's when they reach for the pill bottle, the alcohol, and eventually the rope.

At very best they find themselves doing little more of any practical use than signing prescriptions.

Years of hard study and exams all coming down to being ineffectual pretenders who are denied job-satisfaction because psychiatry in real practice is pretty much a waste of everybody's time.

They also have a ready supply of heavy drugs available to them, and many fall foul of alcoholism.




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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.
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rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

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Australia as a Nation, is a form of Suicide.
The sacrifice of a self-sufficient population growth in favour of a good Economy.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


All my stories are truth..... sorry 'bout that.
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There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
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Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.



My philosophy precisely - don't take out yourself - go to war, undeclared and the war of the flea, with those who have chosen to be your enemies by inflicting harm upon you and yours... and take them out.
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Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.



My philosophy precisely - don't take out yourself - go to war, undeclared and the war of the flea, with those who have chosen to be your enemies by inflicting harm upon you and yours... and take them out.


Exactly
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Convert it to anger and attack everything of theirs you can.
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Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:52pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.



My philosophy precisely - don't take out yourself - go to war, undeclared and the war of the flea, with those who have chosen to be your enemies by inflicting harm upon you and yours... and take them out.


Exactly
There is nothing to loose.
If they destroy your happyness, you drive to live.
Convert it to anger and attack everything of theirs you can.
If they catch you, youbare no worse off, but they are.


Where did you learn that philosophy? I'm a graduate of Ardknox and am now a double professor emeritus and dean of studies at Ardknox College.....

Learned everything the hard way....... ya gotta admit - the Twentieth Century was all theirs .. ALL of it!!
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No woman ever had a toxic emotion...




LOL !!


.....but you can't help but notice, the results of the venom.

The 'dead bodies'.

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No woman ever had a toxic emotion...




LOL !!


.....but you can't help but notice, the results of the venom.

The 'dead bodies'.

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Indeed, the government initiated and supported war between men and women has many casualties on both 'sides'.... and it is the way this artificially created conflict is being handled by those same governments that is causing the casualties.... piling confrontation onto confrontation, violence onto violence, discrimination onto discrimination....

It will all one day end in a bloody war - or in the total suppression of the 'peasants' and their re-making into a set of Neo-Serfs....

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International joke:

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
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Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Seriously ~ Why is the suicide rate in Australia so high?

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Statistics on Suicide in Australia

Suicide remains the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

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The suicide rate amongst Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples is more than double the national rate. In 2015, suicide accounted for 5.2% of all Indigenous deaths compared to 1.8% for non-Indigenous people.

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The ABS recorded 3,027 deaths by intentional self-harm in 2015, the highest number on record.

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VETERINARIANS, paramedics, security guards, truck drivers and engineers share some of the state’s deadliest jobs a new report has found.

A Victorian Coroners Prevention Unit report into suicide rates among workers in key professions raises serious questions about the level of support provided in some occupations.

Employee groups say trauma, isolation, long hours, stress and poor pay contribute to high suicide rates in some professions,

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do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.

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Reply #63 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:43pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
do you think men find it harder to cope?..

disappointment rejection ignorance its there all through our lives..

maybe men are told too often not to cry  why is it shameful for a man to cry I have never understood that.



men are .... scared by emotions.

So immature men used to say 'don't cry'.
That has sort of gone.

but men often lack other men friends.
So all their 'friendship' emotions go to a female.
Or are stifled.

many of the comments on chat sites point to a guy who has few or no real male friends.
Or who has repressed emotions.

Being a bloke can be trying.



expectations are higher......you are meant to be stronger  and have all the answers..

I find the stats to be very sad and very alarming to be honest...we need to give men back their self esteem  I dont blame the fair sex  entirely  but we never seem to give credit where its due anymore...

I am not sure I would want to be a man to be honest....I have always thought you had the best of the deal....if I can call it that.....but not anymore...I look at  my beautiful grandsons. I have 5   and I am always telling them how important they are and how proud I am of what they do I give them a pat on the back no matter how small the deed...one of them won the Golden Gloves in Qld  I am not happy he is boxing  but I couldnt be prouder of him  not becaus ehe won.. because he keep trying he works two jobs. is studying at CITS.....turns up at all our family do's...hes 21 a credit to mum and dad...

its just what I would want for every young man out there...


yes, few men win the golden gloves, study at CITS and work 2 jobs.

Few man have male mentors who are  Quote:
...........always telling them how important they are and how proud I am of what they do I give them a pat on the back no matter how small the deed.............


Men have little to fall back on .
Men have little support.

Look at the aggressive shallow 'blokeish' comments from men here.

'....the university of hardknox' .....

' ..... International joke:

Q: How do you kill an Australian?

A: Leave them alone and they will do it themselves. ..... '

' .......... There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top........ '


After 30 years of that attitude, most people would have problems AND have noone to talk to about them
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Reply #64 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:46pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:16am:
your posts are contributory bogarde and there is humor in them
same as herbert
this is part of "raising the vibration".
your aim should be to "leave the forum "better then you found it.
the people who seek to destroy and seek to leave the forum "worse then they found it" are a concern.
a genuine suicide risk.

if ever i get down , i go do some work with landcare or riding for the disabled because it cant help but be "expansive energy"
if you have a section of riverbank and you clear out the stinging nettles and the lantana and the lawyer vine and then you sit on the nice grass, you can literally feel that you have "left something better then you found it".

and when you are doing this, nature will reward you, nature will seep into your neurology and make you mentally  healthy because you are an ally to nature.

i think at a subconscious level a lot of the inner city greens hate and despise themselves because they know they are an imposition on nature. they try to cover this up by driving a prius or eating no meat or having no kids but they still are not really leaving nature better then they found it.

if they come out to my valley, i can give them infinite work to sooth this psychopathology, but if you are stuck in negative self talk, its hard to see your way thru the fog of this toxic self narrative

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Reply #65 - Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:49pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:16am:
your posts are contributory bogarde and there is humor in them
same as herbert
this is part of "raising the vibration".
your aim should be to "leave the forum "better then you found it.
the people who seek to destroy and seek to leave the forum "worse then they found it" are a concern.
a genuine suicide risk.

if ever i get down , i go do some work with landcare or riding for the disabled because it cant help but be "expansive energy"
if you have a section of riverbank and you clear out the stinging nettles and the lantana and the lawyer vine and then you sit on the nice grass, you can literally feel that you have "left something better then you found it".

and when you are doing this, nature will reward you, nature will seep into your neurology and make you mentally  healthy because you are an ally to nature.

i think at a subconscious level a lot of the inner city greens hate and despise themselves because they know they are an imposition on nature. they try to cover this up by driving a prius or eating no meat or having no kids but they still are not really leaving nature better then they found it.

if they come out to my valley, i can give them infinite work to sooth this psychopathology, but if you are stuck in negative self talk, its hard to see your way thru the fog of this toxic self narrative


Yes... your suggestion is certainly something to grab hold of for people stuck in an urban nightmare. Nature heals. Caring for Nature just comes naturally once properly exposed.



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Reply #66 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.


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Reply #67 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:54am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.




As before - I'm well in touch with the issues - I simply do not agree with the way they have been handled over the past forty years and are being handled now.

Do I look like I care if anyone wants to hear my opinions of mothra or anyone else?

Look into my eyes.......... I will give my views anywhere, any time... and you may agree or disagree - but you may not attack my personal integrity in any way.....

Women handle their 'oppression' better?  You surely are kidding..... do you have some objection to people who raise disagreement over obvious wrongs or something and who seek to set right the very serious wrongs within our society at this time?

Time for many to grow up and realise that they need to EARN their way in life and not expect to be handed all the goodies for nothing, and that wrong is wrong no matter how you cloak it in fine raiment and fine words.....


**dusts off hands - another job well done**
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I will give my views anywhere, any time... and you may agree or disagree - but you may not attack my personal integrity in any way.....


I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOUR INTEGRITY IN ANY WAY.

do you have some objection to people who raise disagreement over obvious wrongs or something and who seek to set right the very serious wrongs within our society at this time?

NO I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANYONE SEEKING TO RIGHT WRONGS.


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Reply #69 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 6:36am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 3:28am:
I will give my views anywhere, any time... and you may agree or disagree - but you may not attack my personal integrity in any way.....


I HAVE NOT ATTACKED YOUR INTEGRITY IN ANY WAY.

do you have some objection to people who raise disagreement over obvious wrongs or something and who seek to set right the very serious wrongs within our society at this time?

NO I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANYONE SEEKING TO RIGHT WRONGS.





you sure have problems with me emma...even though we never exchange posts..... Roll Eyes
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Yadda wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

No woman ever had a toxic emotion...




LOL !!


.....but you can't help but notice, the results of the venom.

The 'dead bodies'.

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Reply #71 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:06am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE



Grin Grin Grin

In a certain year at a certain place psychiatrists gathered in conference to agree to no longer describe homosexuality as a mental illness characterised by sexual deviancy. This Agreement was totally political and had nothing to do with clinic findings or new insights into this severe neurosis.

Such has been their lack of academic integrity and their dishonesty ever since Gaydom became a political football with all parties scrambling to take the moral high-ground. The psychiatric profession prostituted itself shamelessly and to its eternal discredit.

It was a great day for the arse-bandits and the pillow-biters.
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Reply #72 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 8:20am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.





some mixed up thinking in there.
You are indeed correct that part of the problem is that many men have become victims and just feel sorry for themselves.
But that is precisely the problem.
men need to be  accept (as do women) that being a victim and feeling sorry for yourself is merely self sabotage and the ONLY way out of this is to give up your addiction to these negative thought loops.

i have to disagree strongly that men are now "burdened ' with all these new and onerous "responsibilities".

men have, in fact, abrogated their responsibilites.

a man , if he is to be any use to a woman or a child or to society has to have "good and positive things" going on in his mind. this is HIS responsibility.

if a woman and eventually children are to be part of his frame of mind, then he better make dam sure that his frame of mind is filled with joy , passion and positive thoughts.

this is where men have gone wrong.

its simply easier to be a butt hurt little "sorry for yourself" puke who wants everyone else to pleasure you.
its childish.

men are told by "groupthink" to attract womenwith money or cars or big muscles or a rolex. these are gimmicks.

eventually, a man has to ask himself one question.

if a woman is to know the real authentic me, if she is to become part of my mental world, then is that world a world of positive emotions, joy, passion, courage, expansive energy and contribution.

if its not, then that man needs to work on himself until he creates that mental frame for himself.
everything short of that is window dressing and will eventually be seen thru and lead to disaster.

and most men will not do it because they are too damm lazy to do it.

laziness has lead to craziness.

men have to own it and do something about it.

they need to shoulder the burden of being men and master their emotions or they will  always know they are a fraud
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Reply #73 - Sep 15th, 2017 at 9:02am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.

Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.





I agree with a lot of what you say Emma
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I think its multi-factorial. 

Mental health is always an area where its chronically under resourced.  And its a real issue.  Its well and truly good when you are healthy, you can say what are you going to do when you feel a bit 'down'. 

Depression is more than about feeling a bit 'down'.   I know, because I have seen this happening to a close family  friend, who you can say by all aspect should not have anything to be depressed about.   To an extend where few of us had to drag him out of bed to go to see the doctor.   At first, he was lumped into the public health system, through the CATT team.  And I tell you, short of him putting a gun to himself or someone else, there are simply not enough resources to get help.  Luckily, he is very wealthy, and we were able to get him a place in a private hospital.   I would hate to think what would happened if he was left to the mercy of the public system mental health.
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tickleandrose wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 9:21am:
]I think its multi-factorial.  [/highlight]

Mental health is always an area where its chronically under resourced.  And its a real issue.  Its well and truly good when you are healthy, you can say what are you going to do when you feel a bit 'down'. 

Depression is more than about feeling a bit 'down'.   I know, because I have seen this happening to a close family  friend, who you can say by all aspect should not have anything to be depressed about.   To an extend where few of us had to drag him out of bed to go to see the doctor.   At first, he was lumped into the public health system, through the CATT team.  And I tell you, short of him putting a gun to himself or someone else, there are simply not enough resources to get help.  Luckily, he is very wealthy, and we were able to get him a place in a private hospital.   I would hate to think what would happened if he was left to the mercy of the public system mental health. 



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Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 11:43pm:
Men have little to fall back on .
Men have little support.

Look at the aggressive shallow 'blokeish' comments from men here.

'....the university of hardknox' .....

' ..... International joke:

Q: How do you kill an Australian?

A: Leave them alone and they will do it themselves. ..... '

' .......... There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top........ '


After 30 years of that attitude, most people would have problems AND have noone to talk to about them


Good God, man - you blew it with that comment on Ardknox College.... I thought, way back in this discussion, I offered one or two deep and penetrating insights into various things, which I note very few respond to - but I feel your generalisations are becoming very (what is that terrible word - shudders) 'mangina-ish'.

I have NO close friends - it's a personal choice.  On the other hand there is not one person who will say that I am not friendly and helpful etc, it's just that people do not get close to me.  They tend to get lost along the way, so I don't go there.  I believe you've seen that elsewhere by now.

Anyway - stop sucking up to the sheilas, mate - men are a varied lot and not all part of some prescription or formula, you know... some of us actually know what we're about and what life can be about ... you're beginning to worry me.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
They have no path for their valour any more, so they turn inwards and seek to destroy themselves rather than seeking out and destroying their true enemies....

The emasculation of western society is to blame - and the clear reason for that was so as to compel a powerless and compliant working class subject to total control and willing to accept serfdom as their new lot, along with endemic poverty for many.....

Power in their families, their workplace, their daily life in every way has been steadily removed from them and in some cases handed directly to other social groups; they are subject to a reign of terror watching over their shoulder in case the old girl throws a hissy fit and starts a house war with them using the power of the State; in applying for any job they must supplicate themselves to the gods of political correctness and are not permitted to over-perform lest they create stress on their fellow female employees (as in the public service); they are not even permitted a voice in any of the issues that impact directly against them..... and thus so many despair....

No wonder the peasants are revolting......

What is needed are some Camp Grapplers to instill in them a sense of self worth and value and clarify their thinking so they can go forth and trash their enemies.



Sorry Grappler,
I did not see that.
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hhmmm.
Am not confident of us.

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There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.
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It does not help when
Women are constantly abusing men and taking them to the cleaners
Women often do the nastyiest things to men when a relationship ends, they can beso visiciously inventive.

Then we have the grubberment, constantly pushing, fining, abusing and taking.
And if a man cannot find a job, they hound him to death
Aftervall, men are the breadwinners arent they?

Men are under constant attack by the PC mob, generally made up of queers, and pseudo male feminists.
Its wrong to be a man, men have to deny their nature to fight and compete, men are expected to go against their nature and show their feminine side.
Men are constantly apologising for being what they are....men.

And now, we have affirmitave action for women, men, more capable and better at a job are being replaced by a less competent and less qualified woman, because she is a woman.
And some professions have been completly taken over by women, men are ostrasized and hounded out so that the lemon club can rule in peace

Finally, men in Australia are under constant attack for being
Invaders
Mysoginistic
Homophobic
Islamophobic
And every other type of PC bull s#$t that these turds can come up with.

Who would want to be a man?

But some of us reject this rubbish
We are too strong for the PC turds
Too confident to accept the rubbish from feminists
Too capable to be replaced by an incompetent.

We are the men who marry real women and have no fear of that woman and her dreams because they are the same
We enjoy life, laughing at the twisting, squishing and hiding that less manly men do to placate the feminists and PC turds.

Ever seen a feminist or PC turd loose it?
If you havent, you aint tried hard enough.
And when you do you lagh at them.

In every case they revert to their base instincts and they attack.
Its really, really funny, they cant fight for s#$t
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Such simplistic ideas.   Obviously you don't like the idea of equality, do you, Valkie?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Oh dearie dearie me.

Bwian trolls and adds nothing to the discussion.
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Such simplistic ideas.   Obviously you don't like the idea of equality, do you, Valkie?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


As a matter of fact, I do believe in equality.......truevequality.

Lets just consider a level playing field.

Same benifits for everyone.
No abbstudy
No affirmative action
No female and male segregated sports
No female only gyms
Male teachers getting thevsame opportunity as female teacher.

But this is not what you mean is it
You want some equality for some people and more equality for others.

When everyone is entitled to exactly the same, then I will be happy.

Until then, and sticking to the OP, (obviously something you havevdifficulty with)
Thevreason men commit suicide at 3 times the number of women is as I stated

If you have the cerebral capacity to arguevagainst my statements, rather than trolling an inane and quite frankly boring mantra, you may gain some credability.

But this is obviously beyond you.
So I expect another tsk tsk or ho hum post, because you are too pathetic to resopnd intelligently

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 11:45am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
They have no path for their valour any more, so they turn inwards and seek to destroy themselves rather than seeking out and destroying their true enemies....

The emasculation of western society is to blame - and the clear reason for that was so as to compel a powerless and compliant working class subject to total control and willing to accept serfdom as their new lot, along with endemic poverty for many.....

Power in their families, their workplace, their daily life in every way has been steadily removed from them and in some cases handed directly to other social groups; they are subject to a reign of terror watching over their shoulder in case the old girl throws a hissy fit and starts a house war with them using the power of the State; in applying for any job they must supplicate themselves to the gods of political correctness and are not permitted to over-perform lest they create stress on their fellow female employees (as in the public service); they are not even permitted a voice in any of the issues that impact directly against them..... and thus so many despair....

No wonder the peasants are revolting......

What is needed are some Camp Grapplers to instill in them a sense of self worth and value and clarify their thinking so they can go forth and trash their enemies.



Sorry Grappler,
I did not see that.



Don't apologise - I'm just sensitive... grumpy old bastard etc at times.... and I have my personal sacred cows, as does everyone...
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Quote:
.............Wallabies to beat Argentina.............


hhmmm.
Am not confident of us.

3 games, no wins so far.   Cry Cry Cry


I took All Blecks against Schpringboks...
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rhino wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.
idiotic.



Poor dear.
You just give in and go top yourself do you?

There is not one person on this planet more important or better than me.

And

I am the worst person I know

So everyone else is not worth thinking about.
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Valkie wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 8:28am:
rhino wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.
idiotic.



Poor dear.
You just give in and go top yourself do you?

There is not one person on this planet more important or better than me.

And

I am the worst person I know

So everyone else is not worth thinking about.


I'm with you Valkie  Smiley Smiley
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Valkie wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 8:28am:
rhino wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.
idiotic.



Poor dear.
You just give in and go top yourself do you?

There is not one person on this planet more important or better than me.

And

I am the worst person I know

So everyone else is not worth thinking about.
People with severe depression cant somehow "will themselves out of it" you idiot. Its like saying people with cancer can will themselves out of it, both are illnesses. Every single one of your posts exposes you for what you are, an ignorant loud mouth buffoon.
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Come on Guys.

I hear why you are really saying.
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Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
Australia as a Nation, is a form of Suicide.
The sacrifice of a self-sufficient population growth in favour of a good Economy.

We're just a mining outpost for the global economy! That's why we're giving copper internet to our kids after a once in a century mining boom!

Shocked Shocked Shocked


Perth is just an outpost within an outpost  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

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Reply #92 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:09am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.




DON'T TELL GRAPPLER WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T POST ABOUT!

THAT'S NOT YOUR CALL EMMA/MOTHRA ETC
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TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:41pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
Australia as a Nation, is a form of Suicide.
The sacrifice of a self-sufficient population growth in favour of a good Economy.

We're just a mining outpost for the global economy! That's why we're giving copper internet to our kids after a once in a century mining boom!

Shocked Shocked Shocked


Perth is just an outpost within an outpost  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



.. with far more than its share of Mandarins commuting to Canberra by VIP jet... I'll bet they still are but the media has allowed this to die down.  Nothing is too good for our Elected Royalty in Canberra... they're 'entitled' you see....
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Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:09am:
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.




DON'T TELL GRAPPLER WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T POST ABOUT!

THAT'S NOT YOUR CALL EMMA/MOTHRA ETC



Actually, looking at the second highlighted segment, I seems that Emma is being very tongue in cheek over criticising me for critiquing Mothra.  I have a great deal of respect for mothra and feel she is a very caring person etc... but that is not the only thing that come into discussion of issues, and she is very selective.

I mean, the discussion of in-the-closet gay men being homophobic (a sideways suggestion that any Man who disagrees with a homosexual idea is homophobic and thus must be a closet gay etc - utter nonsense) is ludicrous, since such in-the-closet gays would be a tiny minority and have little to no impact on Gay issues.

As I said - the whole idea was to cast some mud around, as the gays etc love to do, by suggesting or insinuating the anyone on the 'opposite' side**, even if they are simply indifferent and couldn't give a damn, my dears - must be a closet homo.

As I said - utter nonsense.

** I've laid out for you before the fate of the citizens of the ancient spiritual capital of Viet Nam, Hue, in their pursuit of the 'Middle' or 'Third' Way of non-involvement in the civil war raging - the 'communists' slaughtered them and dumped them in roadside ditches for wanting to be neutral - under the concept that 'if you're not 200% with us, you are against us'....  again - utter nonsense ....

Interestingly Tad William's series of the angel Bobby Dollar and the eternal struggle twixt Heaven and Hell delves into the development of a Third Way .... of non-alignment with either......
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I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad
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I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


the most common time for a man to kill himself is within the first year after retirement.
this is one of the key things to understand about the "narrow road to success".
you HAVE to maintain momentum
you HAVE to keep growing.

fat steve probably wont suicide. he is just a butt hurt little taker and he is in lower consciousness.

but someone who is in contribution (ie working and contributing) is getting joy and passion from this (even if he doesnt know this). the modern social conditioning tells him that "relaxing" and " retiring" will be a big reward and that work is "punishment".

WRONG.

relaxing and retiring and being all lazy are NOT a reward.
they will see you going down.
when a guy who is in a good place mentally starts to go down, he may become acutely mentally distressed.

dont buy into the groupthink narrative that you are going to retire and love becoming a taker.

if you dont find some passion and some reason to get up in the morning and keep contributing, you are screwed.

leave that sort of mediocre existence to fat steve, find yourself an area to contribute and NEVER LOSE MOMENTUM


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aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


the most common time for a man to kill himself is within the first year after retirement.

this is one of the key things to understand about the "narrow road to success".
you HAVE to maintain momentum
you HAVE to keep growing.

fat steve probably wont suicide. he is just a butt hurt little taker and he is in lower consciousness.

but someone who is in contribution (ie working and contributing) is getting joy and passion from this (even if he doesnt know this). the modern social conditioning tells him that "relaxing" and " retiring" will be a big reward and that work is "punishment".

WRONG.

relaxing and retiring and being all lazy are NOT a reward.
they will see you going down.
when a guy who is in a good place mentally starts to go down, he may become acutely mentally distressed.

dont buy into the groupthink narrative that you are going to retire and love becoming a taker.

if you dont find some passion and some reason to get up in the morning and keep contributing, you are screwed.

leave that sort of mediocre existence to fat steve, find yourself an area to contribute and NEVER LOSE MOMENTUM



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Valkie wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 8:28am:
rhino wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
There are two ways to look at being driven to suicide.

One is to beva pussy and give in, taking your own life.

The other, and my choice, is to take out that which drives you to this point.
If its too big, start small, destroy the tools, the mechanisms, the people involved.
If you get a chance, head for the top.
But never, ever give in.
idiotic.



Poor dear.
You just give in and go top yourself do you?

There is not one person on this planet more important or better than me.

And

I am the worst person I know

So everyone else is not worth thinking about.
People with severe depression cant somehow "will themselves out of it" you idiot. Its like saying people with cancer can will themselves out of it, both are illnesses. Every single one of your posts exposes you for what you are, an ignorant loud mouth buffoon.


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Umm - lock in A), Eddie.. 'Because So Many Duckheads Want To Argue and Put Them Down All The Time."

This entire strand proves the point....... get your act together, children.... I may not always be here to guide you on the path of the straight and narrow .....
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TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #102 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:14pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


Well - Rugby IS the game they play in Heaven... so you can't blame some men for wanting to score between the Pearly Gates ...... mind you, those are not the pearly gates I was thinking of.....

My views are like Rugby - on the ball and happy with the open field or the ruck ...... it's genetic - my son and I both love playing Number 7..... but my lucky number is 5..... I've played wing, fullback, centre, flanker and second row.... open side flanker is my favourite spot... fast off the mark and terrifying to opposing number 10s.... they'd better be quick to offload that ball one way or the other... once dominated a game by terrorising that number 10 and all he did all day was kick it quick.... hopeful... also charged down a kick with my face - out of it on the ground and one of our guys scored off my face shot...... I was seeing angels if not stars which proves Rugby is played in Heaven, don' cha think?

Some say it proves that I'm crazy, but what cares I for high praise?
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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #103 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:57pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:09am:
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.




DON'T TELL GRAPPLER WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T POST ABOUT!

THAT'S NOT YOUR CALL EMMA/MOTHRA ETC


NOT YOUR CALL either TOOTS.

You can TELL me  though, eh?. Roll Eyes

Get over yourself. And your comprehension could improve.


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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #104 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:11am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:02pm:

Love you too rhino.
Your avitar says it all.
Big, blind and charges in without a thought in your tiny little brain.
Despite the fact I dont display an avatar it doesnt say much for your posts if a dummy like me can own you so easily. Keep posting bullshit mastermind and you will continue to be shown as foolish, thats just the way it is so cry me a river.
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Reply #105 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:14am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


Lol at this maroon pretending to be a wise man. If the word knucklehead didnt exist we would have to invent it just to describe Valkie.
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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #106 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:16am
 
Emma wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:09am:
Emma wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 12:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 4:22pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:32am:
Maybe it's because there are women like mothra around.


I don't find Mothra too bad at all.

I think it does her credit that she starts threads on subjects that have plenty of scope for discussion and diverse opinions.

Isn't that just called stirring the pot?


The trouble with mothra is she always wants to discuss pan-socialist ideas rather than sticking to the issues that are most relevant to Australia.  We all sympathise with the plight of the slave labour in Sri Lanka etc, but the reality for most of us here in Realityland is that we have no impact on that and little to no choice but to tolerate it - until this nation can stand on its own two feet again after ridding itself of all its social and economic evils that have held sway for forty odd years now.

Mothra is clearly intelligent, but lacking in (gasps) emotional intelligence.... and often feels that confrontation brings the best results... a bit like longie in that way - the way to negotiate is to tear their balls off, call them stupid or deranged or 'out of touch'** or whatever, and then dictate terms....


**I can assure you I am fully 'in touch' with issues - I just happen to disagree with the way many of them are handled and sold in the futile hope that a gullible community will continue to assist in putting on its own chains to benefit the 'inside' groups.


You shouldn't be like that Grappler.
Nobody asked or wants to know your opinion of Mothra.
You know what your mother used to say..if you can't....   !!!!???

Your opinions are often way outside MY comfort zone, but I respect you nevertheless.

Men are in a hard place, this is true.
I think that many men live lives of resentment and victimhood.
(as do women, they just generally handle it better, having had all of history to get used to it..)

Men have heard all their lives of their role in the world, and now, that is radically different in many ways.

For some men..responsibility and expectations never really held before are now weighing on their shoulders.

It is scary. It isn't YOUR world anymore. You have to share.
You have to GROW UP.
Inevitably those unable to adapt will fall by the way.
This is LIFE.




DON'T TELL GRAPPLER WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T POST ABOUT!

THAT'S NOT YOUR CALL EMMA/MOTHRA ETC


NOT YOUR CALL either TOOTS.

You can TELL me  though, eh?. Roll Eyes



It IS my call and my oath I will.

Bugger off and let Grappler post away.

He's a good guy, a free spirit....honest and sincere.





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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #107 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:18am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


Well - Rugby IS the game they play in Heaven... so you can't blame some men for wanting to score between the Pearly Gates ...... mind you, those are not the pearly gates I was thinking of.....

My views are like Rugby - on the ball and happy with the open field or the ruck ...... it's genetic - my son and I both love playing Number 7..... but my lucky number is 5..... I've played wing, fullback, centre, flanker and second row.... open side flanker is my favourite spot... fast off the mark and terrifying to opposing number 10s.... they'd better be quick to offload that ball one way or the other... once dominated a game by terrorising that number 10 and all he did all day was kick it quick.... hopeful... also charged down a kick with my face - out of it on the ground and one of our guys scored off my face shot...... I was seeing angels if not stars which proves Rugby is played in Heaven, don' cha think?

Some say it proves that I'm crazy, but what cares I for high praise?


League or Union Mr Grappler?
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Reply #108 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 2:44am
 
[quote author=ms.cuteandcheeky lin

[/quote]

DON'T TELL GRAPPLER WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T POST ABOUT!

THAT'S NOT YOUR CALL EMMA/MOTHRA ETC [/quote]

NOT YOUR CALL either TOOTS.

You can TELL me  though, eh?. Roll Eyes

[/quote]

It IS my call and my oath I will.

Bugger off and let Grappler post away.

He's a good guy, a free spirit....honest and sincere.


[/quote]
Pull your head in Lisa.

If it is ANYONE's call it would be Grappler's, not yours,  little girl.

You may appoint yourself to any position you like, in your imagination, but be aware you are nobody's protector, so don't pretend.

I'm quite sure Grappler is capable of looking out for himself, and he doesn't need your input, little girl.
So you bugger off, why don't you?. Smiley
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Reply #110 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:25am
 
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


Lol at this maroon pretending to be a wise man. If the word knucklehead didnt exist we would have to invent it just to describe Valkie.


Such vitriol

Are we getting a little upset dear?

Go and takeva vallium or six, it might calm your precious little, tiny, insignificant mind.

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Reply #111 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 7:08am
 
FraudulentAFL wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:37pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


the most common time for a man to kill himself is within the first year after retirement.

this is one of the key things to understand about the "narrow road to success".
you HAVE to maintain momentum
you HAVE to keep growing.

fat steve probably wont suicide. he is just a butt hurt little taker and he is in lower consciousness.

but someone who is in contribution (ie working and contributing) is getting joy and passion from this (even if he doesnt know this). the modern social conditioning tells him that "relaxing" and " retiring" will be a big reward and that work is "punishment".

WRONG.

relaxing and retiring and being all lazy are NOT a reward.
they will see you going down.
when a guy who is in a good place mentally starts to go down, he may become acutely mentally distressed.

dont buy into the groupthink narrative that you are going to retire and love becoming a taker.

if you dont find some passion and some reason to get up in the morning and keep contributing, you are screwed.

leave that sort of mediocre existence to fat steve, find yourself an area to contribute and NEVER LOSE MOMENTUM



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Retirement Boosts Your Risk of Depression by 40 Percent
According to a new report released by the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA),1 following an initial boost in health, retirement increases your risk of clinical depression by 40 percent while raising your chances of being diagnosed with depression by 60 percent. It also:

Reduces your likelihood of being in self-reported excellent or very good health by 40 percent
Raises your risk of taking medication for a diagnosed physical condition by 60 percent
The study’s author, who called retirement’s impacts on health “drastic,” suggested a later retirement age may actually be preferable, noting: 2

“New research presented in this paper indicates that being retired decreases physical, mental and self-assessed health. The adverse effects increase as the number of years spent in retirement increases.”


people with 'laziness addiction", think that doing nothing is the reward.
they see work as punishment
many lefties see programs like work for the dole as punishment
they just want to sit on the couch and pleasure themselves.

But research shows the leftie to wrong (as per usual)
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Reply #112 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:44pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:25am:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


Lol at this maroon pretending to be a wise man. If the word knucklehead didnt exist we would have to invent it just to describe Valkie.


Such vitriol

Are we getting a little upset dear?

Go and takeva vallium or six, it might calm your precious little, tiny, insignificant mind.

Dont get your panties in a twist, if it hurts so much to be wrong just think a little before you post. I know its difficult for you.
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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #113 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 1:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:18am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:55am:
I could have swore this was about male suicide...

since when is rugby more important than why men kill themselves.. Sad Sad Sad Sad


Well - Rugby IS the game they play in Heaven... so you can't blame some men for wanting to score between the Pearly Gates ...... mind you, those are not the pearly gates I was thinking of.....

My views are like Rugby - on the ball and happy with the open field or the ruck ...... it's genetic - my son and I both love playing Number 7..... but my lucky number is 5..... I've played wing, fullback, centre, flanker and second row.... open side flanker is my favourite spot... fast off the mark and terrifying to opposing number 10s.... they'd better be quick to offload that ball one way or the other... once dominated a game by terrorising that number 10 and all he did all day was kick it quick.... hopeful... also charged down a kick with my face - out of it on the ground and one of our guys scored off my face shot...... I was seeing angels if not stars which proves Rugby is played in Heaven, don' cha think?

Some say it proves that I'm crazy, but what cares I for high praise?


League or Union Mr Grappler?



Both - I played for Newcastle Wests and then changed to Union..... Wests are a big club and they just bought the Knights... hmmm...
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Re: Why do so many men want to kill themselves ?
Reply #114 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 1:58pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:25am:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


Lol at this maroon pretending to be a wise man. If the word knucklehead didnt exist we would have to invent it just to describe Valkie.


Such vitriol

Are we getting a little upset dear?

Go and takeva vallium or six, it might calm your precious little, tiny, insignificant mind.



My stories sing of the people and their relationship with the nation, for those with the ears to hear the harps, violins and trumpets and the roar of the crowd as they realise the truth before them....
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Reply #115 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:18pm
 
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 5:25am:
rhino wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 8:07pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:34pm:
rhino wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
"I know that in the psychiatric profession the psychiatrists have routine scheduled therapy sessions with a fellow-psychiatrist."

Maybe that's what drives them over the edge...
Maybe they have to listen to your stories. That would drive anyone over the edge.


These same psychiatrists who claim to believe that homosexuality is normal.

SAY     NO    MORE

I can't believe that psychiatrists would believe homosexuality is normal!!


They dont.

But some are afflicted with this illness.
Some are politically motivated
Some are themselves confused
And the rest just go with the flow.


Lol at this maroon pretending to be a wise man. If the word knucklehead didnt exist we would have to invent it just to describe Valkie.


Such vitriol

Are we getting a little upset dear?

Go and takeva vallium or six, it might calm your precious little, tiny, insignificant mind.

Dont get your panties in a twist, if it hurts so much to be wrong just think a little before you post. I know its difficult for you.


Yep, too dim to come up with your own comeback, you try mine on.
2nd place is first last loser

Pathetic isnt it?

Poor little rhino, blind, big and stooopid.
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