Analyst blames teachers and social media for nation of whingers

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/analyst-blames-teachers-and-social-media-for-nation-of-whingers/news-story/ebae1b716908233659c25b41dbd7bdc7

TEACHERS telling students all views are equally valid have helped turn Australia into a nation of whingers, according to one of the nation’s leading social analysts.

David Chalke said the tendency to declare all views as equal and the broadcast platform provided by social media had contributed to the rise of “the permanently outraged”, and the online furore surrounding Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s now infamous baby and beer photo.

The photo of Mr Turnbull kissing his granddaughter while holding a beer in one hand and watching the footy drew criticism on social media over the weekend.

“It is the natural product of the confluence of two forces coming together, one of which is what we’ve seen pushed through education institutions for years which is the importance of identity, and that everyone’s view is equally valid,” Mr Chalke said.

“Mix that with the explosion in social media – Twitter, Instagram, Facebook or whatever – and you have an outpouring of usually uninformed, uninhibited, unmoderated, unedited rubbish and that’s what you’ve got here.”

Mr Chalke also said traditional media had to take a portion of the blame for amplifying the comments.

It is not just online that whingers are venting their frustration, with Brisbane City Council inundated with complaints.

Regular topics include road and footpath safety, animal attacks, horseriding, illegal camping and dodgy parking.

One of the biggest issues for Brisbane residents is noise, with the council receiving 10,745 noise complaints last financial year.

Council’s Lifestyle and Community Services chairman, Matthew Bourke, said animal noise, including barking dogs, crowing roosters and screeching cats, topped the list of annoying sounds.

“This was followed by construction noise occurring out of allowable hours, use of power tools or leaf blowers and noise from entertainment venues,” he said.

Mr Chalke said a sense of feeling entitled to complain had crept into Australian society.

“The Whinger’s Charter is working well and strongly right the way around the country because the squeaky door gets the oil,” he said.

“And of course every one has their own Facebook page. We are living in the world of unmoderated, unedited opinion passing itself off as fact.”

Social media users found other topics to whinge about yesterday, with thousands of people complaining about the controversial NRL Bunker.

Manly Sea Eagles and Cronulla Sharks supporters, bitter after their teams were eliminated from finals football, made the Bunker a trending topic on Facebook, slamming the video referees for their decisions in the respective matches.

Meanwhile, activists blew up the comments sections on a story about Taronga Zoo’s baby gorilla, littering the cute footage with complaints about the zoo being a “prison”, while hundreds of others chose to whinge about McDonald’s rip-offs including staff forgetting to put sauce in the bags and neglecting to mix McFlurry’s.

Teachers are consumate wingers and whiners.

For a group of individuals that work 5-6 hours a day for 4 days a week with 14-18 weeks off every year, they are seriously ovepaid.

And they have failed so many generations of children simply because they cant teach for shite.

No wonder the kids are that way inclined, they simply mimic what they see.

I remember we had a biology exam in high school where one of the other students gave an answer that was demonstrably incorrect, but got nearly full marks for being able to 'explain' it. Obviously the explanation was full of holes also. In other words, being able to bullshit your way through is more important than being correct.

All maths is applied. It's quite easy to invent a new field of maths. But unless it serves a purpose it is discarded because it has no value.

Valkie wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 7:56pm:


Australia has a maximum 38 hour week, Matty. Teachers nearly always work on weekends. It would be nice if you could plan everything in a year, but you get different classes each term. Getting a new HSC class really tests you.

The payoff for getting well-behaved kids in private school is training two nights a week, after-school homework classes and your Saturdays gone. Some schools expect you to attend chapel on a Sunday.

But yes, the holidays are great.

Well like most things - they are probably like Sydney.
Getting paid more - for offering less.
Sydney was once a nicely priced city of quality.
Now its an over-priced city of quantity (mass-production Asia).

Now take it from me, because I did my Biology exam in Morse Code. I still can't see why I failed? 

There are more than just 'one' right answer to a problem - directly.

Also, if someone wants to become a Teacher - they now have to prove that they have been in the workforce for a year (or two?) before they study. So they can show that they know what its like 'out there' and can prepare students with a bit more understanding.
I think that's a good move by the Ed Dept.
Nothing worse than an in-house smart-arse that has never left the classroom from Pre-school to their Honours Degree to their Lecturing about... 

I didn't agree with Tony Wetherill's approach that a kid doing extremely well in the HSC in Mt Druitt has his score 'scaled down' because of his fellow student's dismal efforts, while a kid at some snooty prestigious school could sit around and do nothing, while his dismal score was 'scaled up' because of his fellow student's efforts.
I  bet you know which kid got into Uni. 

I wouldn't say Teaching is totally an over-paid job.
Sure, it might be a 'cruise' in a Private school where every kid is on their best behaviour because their parent's would kill them if they compromised the fees being paid for them with a suspension or expelled.
While Teachers in Mt Druitt Govt Schools get spat on, punched, abused, crap amenities, bashed, ignored, sued, etc ...and that's including from the parents. Punishment is now also compromised ...for legal reasons.

teaching is overated.

the mistake made by "fat steve' and his "fat wife" is to be lazy and hand over this vital role to a low level public servant.

parents need to be good role models and understand how the world works.

i would rather read "the 7 habits of highly effective people" to my kids as a bed time story then read them "to kill a mockingbird".

interestingly, i was talking to my fencer the other day and his son , who dropped out of school at 15 and is now 20 was with him.
the kid just brought his first house for cash at 20!!.

the kid made (mick is no BS artist) 280 k last year fencing.

if your parents are good role models and draw the kids into their world (as opposed to leftard purgatory) then the skys the limit.

i said to this kid (young man), whats next.

he has his eyes on some lovely river flats where he is going to grow sorghum for the feed lot industry.

thats the way...the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
just how nature intended it.

hopefully by 30 he'll be a millionaire and he'll have some kids with uni degrees polishing his boots and cleaning his toilet 

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 7:45pm:



Isn't that rule one of the socialist rule book - bullsh1t baffles brains

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 7:42am:


Oh, ja. In NSW, the syllabus has changed once since the 1960s, Bogie.

My workplace has changed more than that in the last decade.

have any of you critics ever taught a room full of mostly uninterested children???>.

no by these comments I can bet you havent...

no neither have I  but I have known one or two teachers in my time.. and NO their work doesnt stop when the bell goes...99% of them good ones take work home with them...they meet parents in the shopping centre who think now is a good time to get into this person for daring to tell her little man to pay attention...wehave no real idea what the life of a teacher is really like....imagine the talk back in High School.... bad manners and rudeness seem to rule the waves today....

teachers are being  HIT by todays bullies....

if you went to work every day knowing something violent could happen at any tick of the clock......just because you are doing the job you are being paid to do!

would you really enjoy turning up..

cods wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:08am:


Sure have, dear. Kids aren't that bad, but they are tiring.

cods wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:08am:



good grief.

if i spoke to someone who trained horses and he "didnt really enjoy doing it", i would not let him within a kilometre of my $1000 horse.
i believe the OECD cost of raising a child is about $500,000.

so if i found out a teacher "didnt really enjoy doing it", i would not let that teacher anywhere near a child (who is infinitely more valuable then a horse )

teachers should be adults and act like it
teachers have to 'handle their own emotions"
we shouldnt have to set the bar high for teachers.
they should be applying the blowtorch to themselves every moment of every day to be awesome!!!
if they want to be butt hurt little pukes, tell them to go join whiteknight and "complain" a lot but keep their toxic negative energy away from kids

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 8:46am:


What need to do serfs have of science and technology - best leave such things to their betters and masters who can handle it more effectively....

I really dislike they way they try to introduce more academic style learning and lots of homework at earlier and earlier ages. They misrepresent the benefit to promote this. Obviously a kid who has been taught the alphabet in preschool is going to know the alphabet better than his peers in grade 1, but by grade 2 the benefit disappears. It just eats away at childhood.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 11:41pm:


Teachers are quite simply lazy, and in many cases incompetent.
Just look at karntall, as a teacher he is a total failure.
Probably kant add up,
His obvious inability to understand is typical of teachers today
Yet even with all this he still feels superior,

Superior to what?
Poor little dear,
Underachievers always blow their own trumpet the loudest.
This proves that the teacher fraternity are all simply underachievers.

The old saying is
If you can...do
If you cant....teach

Rings true in kantalls situation.

a lot of teachers seem to be lefties
the teachers union seems choc-o-block with lefties.

kids soak up the 'emotional state" of those they spend most time with.

this is called the "law of state transference".

if we want kids to be awesome, then it is vital that parents and teachers should "have the emotional state" of an "awesome person".

if a kid spends the weekend watching his dad, fat steve, sitting on the couch chowing down a pizza and watching netflix, then that kid is soaking up the emotional state of a "dreamcrusher".
its child abuse.
if a kid spends a term in a classroom with a teacher who is stressed, cant cope emotionally, (and a helluva a lot of teachers seem to be almost permanently on and off stress leave) if the teacher tells sad stories about the climate or captain cook. if the teacher is always whining and complaining that kids didnt do their homework, if the teacher doesnt know how to be a good alpha when some kid is acting up....then the kid is soaking up the emotional state of a dreamcrusher.
its a form of child abuse.

any teacher who cant go into a classroom with the intention of doing anything other then offering pure positive expansive energy needs to be brutally removed from perpetrating abuse on young children.

a teacher MUST be grounded in their own awesomeness.

i would get successful small business people to come into the classroom and present a narrative of inspiration to young people.  it must be awful to have fat steve for a dad, fat janine for a mum and a hand wringing anxious nervous "miss nellie" for a teacher.

how awful

Where do you get this stuff from, Aquascoot? I went to school and I taught at schools. There were hardly any lefties I can remember.

Who teaches these things?

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 7:37am:


Zero. Just use some Islamoclean , and all the Muslim stink goes away.

No no, I want a figure left on my desk by next Monday.

Dismissed.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 7:40am:


There you go, Aquascoot. Social Marxists.

Apart from Herbie's daughter, of course.

Actually, I'd like to learn that myself. Thanks, Aquascoot. You've provided a solution: skills.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:05am:



since the lawyer explosion in the west encouraging complaints and the soft life most people enjoy , you may well be right.

it could just be that an important skill to learn to survive in modern "group think" is the skill of "whinging".

but i think its just a temporary fad

red baron wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:58am:


No, Red, teachers are given skills they have to teach - a syllabus. Only in the HSC are they given texts they have to cover.

Curriculums are actually quite broad - Shakespeare in Year 10, Australian history in Year 8, algebra in Year 9, etc, etc, etc. Schools have a lot of leeway to cover different texts and subject matter.

The choice of subject matter usually comes down to how many books are left in the book-room.

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 3:58am:


I don't know any teachers who feel they are owed something, Unsubrocky. The general theme in discussions with teachers - in school and out - is about helping kids.

It's a good income. All the teachers I know are happy with it. The thing that moves teachers is seeing kids grow and learn. Teachers aren't selling financial products on commission. The ones who stay after a year are in it to teach.

It's a profession, and an important one. Aquascoot understands this vibe perfectly.

Been no bloody good since The Invasion Of The Snatch Embodiers....

NRL semi final on.. C YA L8ER

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 17^th, 2017 at 4:29am:


Teachers are tasked with pointing kids in the right direction to learn for themselves. Kids always learn, whether they're at school or not.

All teachers can do is provide a hint of what's on offer if kids read and try out different things. The best teachers can do is inspire and captivate.

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Here's Mark Latham on the deplorable state of our public schools.

Never thought I'd have so much in common with Mark Latham.... oh, well - I'm young yet...