Hydrogen is already sounding the death knell for kranky all electric cars which have only a limited market and a painful long recharge time.

Hydrogen has it all over all electric as hydrogen can be used to power large semi trailers and trucks whereas all electric CANNOT due to the enormous size of the battery.

What would be hilarious is a Tesla car with a flat battery being towed by an hydrogen powered tow truck!!!!!



The breakdown: hydrogen on the horizon
David McCowen  23 June 2017

Five things you need to know about the rise of fuel cell vehicles.

VIDEO: Hyundai's hydrogen car put to the test. Three countries and 1000 kilometers in the ix35 Fuel Cell.

What's going on?
There have been important breakthroughs in the drive for hydrogen-powered cars this month.

The South Australian Government announced on Thursday that it will grant $8.2 million over four years for a hydrogen production and distribution site for fuel-cell-powered electric vehicles including at least six buses.

Up in Sydney, the University of NSW has developed a more efficient catalyst for separating water into hydrogen and oxygen without the use of exotic metals, making the technology cheaper to access.

Chinese scientists have been working on a similar theme by pushing to make hydrogen production less energy-intensive, while the US Department of Energy is funding a Penn State project to find efficient ways to store hydrogen. 

In Seoul, Hyundai insiders reportedly told Business Korea that the manufacturer is planning a 15-fold increase in the number of hydrogen-powered cars it sells when an all-new model goes into production in early 2018.

And that barely covers the last three weeks of development.

Why the big deal?
As Hyundai Australia environmental policy spokesman Scott Nargar told The Australian Financial Review: "all you need is water and sunshine".

Fuel cell vehicles have been touted as a long-term solution to the problem of personal transportation.

Hyundai, Toyota and Honda have put fuel cell-powered cars into production that offer emissions-free motoring with faster refuelling times than electric vehicles.

Hydrogen for fuel cell vehicles can be sourced from water, which is split into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. After the electrolysis process, hydrogen is stored under high pressure (up to 800bar or 11,600PSI) and pumped into cars at special service stations.   
California has the toughest clean-air rules in the country and mandates for zero-emission vehicles, making it the natural place for Shell and Toyota to team up in the US.



Fuel cell vehicles such as Toyota's Mirai store compressed hydrogen gas in an armoured container in the back of the car, pumping it through to a fuel cell under the bonnet. There, a complex arrangement of thin, sheet-like membranes combines that hydrogen with oxygen sourced from ambient air around the car. The fuel cell's catalyst triggers a chemical reaction that divides hydrogen molecules into positively charged protons and negatively charged electrons that create an electric current before fusing with oxygen to become water.

The current is then used to power electric motors to provide propulsion, while the water leaves the car as waste.

Hydrogen's key advantage over plug-in electric vehicles is that a car can take on a full take of hydrogen in a few minutes – roughly the same amount of time it takes to top up a tank of petrol – while electric cars usually require several hours to take a charge.



The hydrogen-powered Mirai has a superior driving range and can be tanked up in three minutes -- no hours-long charging involved. Only harmless H20 dribbles out of its rear end.

The problem is that hydrogen technology is expensive and infrastructure is extremely limited – particularly compared with the power grid. Both of those factors are likely to change in coming years.

Hydrogen power is also inefficient compared with the latest battery tech. But it isn't as materials-intensive, and it looks to be more scalable than battery tech as heavy vehicles look set to be a key battleground for the race between hydrogen and electric power. The gas is lighter than equivalent lithium-ion batteries, making it a better bet for buses and trucks. Toyota revealed a new fuel cell-powered semi-trailer concept in May that produces 500kW of power and almost 1800Nm of torque, offering a payload of 36.2 tonnes and a working range of 320 kilometres.



Toyota's Project Portal hydrogen fuel cell truck has been unveiled ahead of a trail.


Read the exciting rest of hydrogen power for Australian transport here

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/the-breakdown-hydrogen-on-the-horizon-2017062...

juliar wrote on Sep 19^th, 2017 at 10:33am:


Hey dickhead, hydrogen was supposed to be here 20 years ago. Where is it today ?? Concept cars and trucks filling up beside one hydrogen fool bowser at a Toyota R&D center. Give us a break socko LOL

juliar wrote on Sep 19^th, 2017 at 11:00am:


Yeh like hydrogen is really practical that's why everyone is using it LOL

Socko drowning in a sea of weasel words LOL

lee wrote on Sep 19^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:


Try using it to cook your steak and let us know

Lee,

the standard Greeny type argument is, If you don't agree with me THEN YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!

Just see how the Yessers are carrying on with their very aggressive WE are RIGHT YOU are WRONG SSM campaign.

But the misinformed poorly educated Greenies are very much in the minority and contribute ZERO to running the country and so it is like the tail trying to wag the dog.

The Greenies just want an inside run to WELFARE for ALL Greenies.

And the LostSnail keeps sidestepping the issue of the Greenies are poisoning the planet with their renewable rubbish very TOXIC WASTE

.

lee wrote on Sep 19^th, 2017 at 3:56pm:


Get real will you. LOL

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 20^th, 2017 at 10:39am:



Yes. I can understand you not wanting to rebut the science.