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Reply #45 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:58pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
In case you hadn't noticed EV's come with batteries to store the energy and rooftop solar PV charging stations are possible



Very good. What is the despatchable power of the PV battery charging technology. And you only want to recharge your car during the day?

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
the beauty of reducing IR losses by high voltage transmission



Do you mean Infrared Radiation or Current  (I) Resistance (R)?

So the Resistance of the line is a fixed ratio, dependant on its structure. It will increase linearly. The Voltage  (E or V) which is generally controlled to be constant and Resistance from a fixed line length, where do you see savings in I?

Now if you were talking DC there will be a saving in Capacitance (C) losses and Inductance (H) losses.

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
Note how Australia is still lagging way behind other countries when it comes to cleaning up vehicle emissions.


You do realise that Australia is a carbon sink? Therefore there are no NET emissions.
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Reply #46 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:50am:
are you pretending that building EV's produces more emissions than building petrol driven cars?



Try reading the literature. Wink
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Reply #47 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:03pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Tesla's Gigafactory will produce as much renewable energy as it uses (net zero energy)



While the sun shines or the storage device lasts. I see no figures
for how long that will be.

Did you read the post how long the lithium would last?
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Reply #48 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:15pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:50am:
are you pretending that building EV's produces more emissions than building petrol driven cars?



Try reading the literature. Wink

Are you pretending you've read 'the literature'?
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Reply #49 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:29pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Are you pretending you've read 'the literature'?



I have even posted some of it. Do try to keep up. Wink
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Reply #50 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:40pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
Are you pretending you've read 'the literature'?



I have even posted some of it. Do try to keep up. Wink

So you say!
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Reply #51 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:43pm
 
If they are going to ban all internal combustion motors it'll be to make room in the atmosphere for the scores more coal-fuelled power plants to come online.
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Reply #52 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
If they are going to ban all internal combustion motors it'll be to make room in the atmosphere for the scores more coal-fuelled power plants to come online.


And still the emissions from the use of EV's will be much lower even with coal fired power. Just look at all of the energy expended and GHG generated getting the crude oil out of the ground to the fossil fool bowser. So much  processing, refining and transportation involved. Hardly call that an efficient means of energy transference Sad
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Reply #53 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:20pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:59pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:50am:
are you pretending that building EV's produces more emissions than building petrol driven cars?



Try reading the literature. Wink


white flag accepted
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Reply #54 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:21pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
If they are going to ban all internal combustion motors.


rubbish. I've still gotta get my 69 Mustang
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Reply #55 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
Coal powerful electric cars. Lawl.
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Reply #56 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
white flag accepted



You believe I have offered a white flag, when in reality I offered you the opportunity to read. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #57 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:35am:
And a lot less to produce than your typical fossil fool vehicle and a lot less emissions, replacement of parts after delivery to the customer

Have you got figures for that? Estimated GHG's for making the battery -

"In this
study, by establishing a life cycle assessment framework, GHG emissions from the production of lithium-ion batteries in China are estimated. The results show that for the three types of most
commonly used lithium-ion batteries, the (LFP) battery, the (NMC) battery and the (LMO) battery, the GHG emissions from the production of a 28 kWh battery are 3061 kgCO 2 -eq, 2912 kgCO 2 -eq and 2705 kgCO 2 -eq, respectively. This implies around a 30% increase in GHG emissions from vehicle production compared with conventional vehicles. The productions of cathode materials and wrought aluminum are the dominating contributors of GHG emissions, together accounting for around three quarters of total emissions."

www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/9/4/504/pdf



Look above. Net emissions from Tesla factory will be zero and no gas lines are used at all. Can you say the same for any fossil fool car manufacturer ?
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Reply #58 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
In case you hadn't noticed EV's come with batteries to store the energy and rooftop solar PV charging stations are possible



Very good. What is the despatchable power of the PV battery charging technology. And you only want to recharge your car during the day?

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
the beauty of reducing IR losses by high voltage transmission



Do you mean Infrared Radiation or Current  (I) Resistance (R)?

So the Resistance of the line is a fixed ratio, dependant on its structure. It will increase linearly. The Voltage  (E or V) which is generally controlled to be constant and Resistance from a fixed line length, where do you see savings in I?

Now if you were talking DC there will be a saving in Capacitance (C) losses and Inductance (H) losses.

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:44am:
Note how Australia is still lagging way behind other countries when it comes to cleaning up vehicle emissions.


You do realise that Australia is a carbon sink? Therefore there are no NET emissions.


You come right out of a comic book mate. Show me where you get emissions free petrol supply for free at any time ? Those pricks wouldn't give you the vapours for free Cheesy LOL
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Reply #59 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:04pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Show me where you get emissions free petrol supply for free at any time ?



What are you on? Can I have some?

Where have I said anything abut emissions free petrol?

You do understand Australia is a NET carbon sink?  Do you understand what NET means? That means that our pitifully small emissions, by world standards, are swallowed by our plant life.
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