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Extreme weather events - the elephant in the room (Read 1759 times)
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Reply #15 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:17pm
 
Ajax wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:29pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Ajax wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 4:46pm:
lee wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 11:53am:
It's whatever it was before we started to pollute the f..k out of the planet !



So how did they determine it?

So taking into account CO2 has been both higher and lower in the past, before this "pollution"; and CO2 apparently the "control knob" of temperature, what changes in atmospheric water vapour occurred in the past? Was it detrimental?


Here you go. Knock yourselves out. The answers to all of your silly rebuttles Wink

https://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

I'm not interested in this tit for tat bullsh.t debate that you denialists always engage in. You can't expect to set fire to all of the fossil fools in the period of a couple of hundred years that has taken nature tens of millions of years to sequester and then expect absolutely no consequences !! That is essentially your perverted argument. "AGW doesn't exist so we can feel good about setting fire to the remaining reserves of fossil fools on the planet and carry on with our fake economies."




If you're that worried sir lastnail I would advise you to go back through our climate history so you can see how atmospheric CO2 and temperature interact with each other.

All will be revealed, all you need to do is look into the past to understand the future...... Wink


That's all been debunked time and time again Angry Instead of using denial as an excuse to do nothing except make yourselves feel better what are you lot going to do about f..king up the planet with your polluting muck out of the ground ?


Well then how about leading the way.

Get out of your home and go live in some cave in the mountains, while Al Gore burns more electricity than the city of Melbourne.

If that's what float your boat be my guest...... Kiss


Many times I suggested electric cars as a way to transition away from fossil fools as a start, but oh no you can't drive from melbourne to sydney on one charge so lets can the idea all together Sad It's all or nothing with you lot. No compromises at all so as long as you are in total denial then it's ok to deplete the worlds fossil fool resources until the planet is a basket case Sad
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Reply #16 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:26pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
but oh no you can't drive from melbourne to sydney on one charge



Poor diiddums. You do realise not everyone lives in Melbourne or Sydney? Some of us live in the country, and range is a big factor in the vehicles we purchase.
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Reply #17 - Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:29pm
 
Hey did you know the last elephant this big to hit Cuba was in 1924....  what were carbon levels then? Cheesy
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Reply #18 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:05am
 
Grendel wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Hey did you know the last elephant this big to hit Cuba was in 1924....  what were carbon levels then? Cheesy

How do you know?
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Reply #19 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:36am
 
Attention seeking by trying to sensationalize fake news by the LotSnail. Must be upset by the swing to Clean Coal here in Australia.
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Reply #20 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:22am
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:05am:
Grendel wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Hey did you know the last elephant this big to hit Cuba was in 1924....  what were carbon levels then? Cheesy

How do you know?

Why don't YOU know?
look it up....
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Reply #21 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:23am
 
TRY using google...

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The 1924 Cuba hurricane is the earliest officially classified Category 5 Atlantic hurricane on the Saffir–Simpson scale, and one of two hurricanes to make landfall on Cuba at Category 5 intensity, the other being Hurricane Irma in 2017.
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Reply #22 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:35am
 
Am I wrong in thinking extreme weather events are increasing in frequency ?

Cry
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ALL AUSTRALIA IS FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS!
 
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Reply #23 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:24am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:35am:
Am I wrong in thinking extreme weather events are increasing in frequency ?

Cry


Yes.

Over 11 years without a cat 3 hurricane or higher hitting the USA.

Contrary to reports there were three hurricanes at the same time in 2010.

And in 1998 there were four at once in the Atlantic Basin.

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ACE - Accumulated Cyclone Energy. Not showing any trend.
It is a measure of intensity.

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Reply #24 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:55am
 
Grendel wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:22am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:05am:
Grendel wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Hey did you know the last elephant this big to hit Cuba was in 1924....  what were carbon levels then? Cheesy

How do you know?

Why don't YOU know?
look it up....

How do you know?
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Reply #25 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 11:55am
 
Grendel wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:23am:
TRY using google...

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The 1924 Cuba hurricane is the earliest officially classified Category 5 Atlantic hurricane on the Saffir–Simpson scale, and one of two hurricanes to make landfall on Cuba at Category 5 intensity, the other being Hurricane Irma in 2017.

Sounds like science  Shocked
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Reply #26 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:09pm
 
When will they ever recognize that Global Warming is nothing more than a GIGANTIC HOAX designed to fool the gullibles ? And there are plenty of those here!!!

Another dog's breakfast by the Leftys. They just can't help themselves.

But it is really that they just cannot focus on any single issue. Socialist indoctrination at skool instead of education ?
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Reply #27 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Christiana Figueres UN Climate propagandist was on you guessed it the ABC tonight...  7:30 Report.  She says we have 3 years to turn things around and of course we also had Australian Greenies showing their ignorance about the Hurricanes O/S...  oh dear.

No one else was invited on just more biased reporting and agenda pushing from the ABC...
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Reply #28 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
Christina Figueres -

""This is  probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history", Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. "

http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-econo...

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Reply #29 - Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:16pm
 
or -
"And as IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer admitted in November 2010, “…one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.  Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth...”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-o...
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