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Reply #75 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:17pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,


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People who are unable or unwilling to empathise with the suffering of innocent animals or people are moral imbeciles.
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Reply #76 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:18pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Female prawns are having their eyes sliced open and cut off!



Prawn farms are performing a cruel procedure on live prawns to make them breed faster. Female prawns have their eye sliced open and squeezed out, or cut off with a heated blade — usually without any pain relief. This practice, called 'eyestalk ablation' happens in almost all prawn hatcheries around the world — including Australia.

A female prawn has a hormonal gland behind her eye that moderates reproduction, only allowing her to breed when conditions are suitable. The stressful and crowded conditions on farms can make prawns reluctant to reproduce. By cutting her eye, prawn farmers destroy the gland, forcing her into rapid sexual maturity.

Scientists have found that prawns who have their eye sliced open or cut off become disoriented, flick their tails (an escape reflex) and rub the traumatised area — all behaviours associated with pain.

Research has found that, given the right environment, female prawns will breed without having their eye cut off. One of Latin America's largest group of prawn farms, SeaJoy, has already phased out this gruesome procedure.

If you believe that all animals deserve compassion, send a message to the heads of the Australian Prawn Farmers Association and tell them to stop cutting eyes off prawns.





Sign the petition here:


https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/prawns-eyes-cut-off/


You're a fargin prawn.

How about you worrying about the imported prawns that have caused the outbreak of whitespot disease in QLD prawn farms costing people their livelihood & possibly bankrupting them.

And to the farmed asian green prawns that imported for nongs like you to eat that are pumped full of some chemical concoction to increase their size and weight?




I'm sorry Gnads. Did i not cover enough ground?

Any other prawn related subject matter i should have included to justify me caring about prawns being so stressed by their farming conditions, they only reproduce if you cut the end off their eye-stalks and squeeze out their eyes.

I'll make sure i don't do it again.

Do you have a petition about white spot i can sign? I'll sign it happily.
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Reply #77 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Gee Mothra. I could see you at Marathon telling the invading Persians that you have a Petition while holding a Protest Sign above your head. Yep that'll work  Roll Eyes

I love it when Park Rangers shoot Poachers dead in their tracks.
I can't agree with the 'Western' Hollywood/Media perception of getting kids dressed up as Pirates to show them that Piracy is a 'fun' thing.  Roll Eyes

Protests & Petitions are a 'political' avenue - which is ironic because Politics does not succeed at Conservation, rather - it has left open many a door for so much conservational damage over the century.



You've absolutely no idea what i've done or do.

Or what i have seen done.

Suffice it to say, achievements are made through nonviolence. I know this to be true. It is indisputable.
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Reply #78 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:22pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.


Exactly how i see it too, Herbie. Well put!


Anyone who has been circumcised unjustly should be signing this petition.  Smiley


Now that is funny  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #79 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:23pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Gee Mothra. I could see you at Marathon telling the invading Persians that you have a Petition while holding a Protest Sign above your head. Yep that'll work  Roll Eyes

I love it when Park Rangers shoot Poachers dead in their tracks.
I can't agree with the 'Western' Hollywood/Media perception of getting kids dressed up as Pirates to show them that Piracy is a 'fun' thing.  Roll Eyes

Protests & Petitions are a 'political' avenue - which is ironic because Politics does not succeed at Conservation, rather - it has left open many a door for so much conservational damage over the century.



You've absolutely no idea what i've done or do.

Or what i have seen done.

Suffice it to say, achievements are made through nonviolence. I know this to be true. It is indisputable.


Yep - Mr 'non-violence' Gay Gandhi told his people to go out and make love not war against the British.
Look at the country now.  Roll Eyes
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #80 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:29pm
 
Commentator: "It's at this point of the Topic folks that Mothra is on the verge of wanting to physically hit JaSin."

You know you want to Mothra  Wink



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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #81 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm
 
I love King Prawns or Tiger Prawns and always try to buy 'Australian'.

I usually buy $10 worth every few weeks and then pig-out on them with vinegar while watching TV in the evening.

And then I occasionally stuff myself with New Zealand Green Lipped Mussels dipped in a bowl of vinegar.

To die for.

I bought a tin of Crab Meat that was bland as hell and that was that.

I haven't eaten a piece of lobster since I was a boy. I must see about that.

Had battered New Zealand Hoki last week with a squeeze of lemon - again, to die for.

Used to LOVE salted sun-dried octopussies when I lived in Hong Kong. It was like beef jerky or biltong. Delicious.

Just sayin'.

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PS. The only use I've ever found for Calamari is to hold my socks up ...
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Reply #82 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So you think every animal feels pain the same way humans do?

I hope you do not take antibiotics when unwell.  Painful death for all those organisms in your body.
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Reply #83 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm
 
Not at all JaSin. I'm quite happy to respectfully disagree with you.
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Reply #84 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm
 
i can see good arguements from both Jasin and mothra on this one.

blame the prawn farmers..possibly
blame the protestors ..possibly.

but the main cause of animal cruelty lies fairly and squarely at the feet of "fat steve" and his "fat wife" .

you see, theres this thing called "the marketplace"
another name for this is "reality".

fat steve and fat janeen just want to pleasure themselves.
they are in lower consciousness.
they just want to slide those prawns into their mouths along with the cage eggs, the factory sow bacon, the $2 milk brought at the expense of the slaughter of male claves.
fat steve wants his dog (doesnt care if it comes from a puppy farm). he wants his XXXL tracky pants (doesnt care if a bangladeshi kid gets $1 a day to make them).
he wants his internet porn .
he wants his iphone (made by some little asian kiddie).

steve wants it all and as cheap as possible , because steve has a lot of "pleasuring himself to do" to make up for his mediocre failed life.

and the market responds to steve.
there are simply "too many steves".
the politicians, the market, the economy are driven by fat steve , fat janeen and their entitled kids.

now mothra is right ...its a disgrace.
jasin is right...it aint going to change.

i cant get thru to steve to make him aspire to more then mediocrity and mothra cant get thru to steve to make him aspire to more then pleasuring himself.

best to just move up the narrow road to success and pity steve...he is beyond help...this is true for 90 % of the population who are asleep at the wheels of their own lives.
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Reply #85 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.
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Reply #86 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm
 
Cruelty will never fall out of fashion with certain people.
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Reply #87 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



Here's our latest generation exuding sympathy and a care for this highly sensitive animal's pain ...

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Reply #88 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm
 
I believe it can change. I further believe the best possible chance in it changing is by raising awareness, consumer boycott  and campaigning (including actions,demonstrations, protests, petitions, letter writing etc).

I can assure you that achievements have been won for humans and animals all over the world .. every day ... through mechanisms such as this.

I can absolutely guarantee you that saying nothing is ever going to change so why bother trying is the single best way to ensure nothing ever changes.

If one person who has read this thread starts ethically sourcing their prawns because of reading it .. do you not think that is a achievement?

So you not think people being educated on the subject will lead to people putting pressure on those who can make a difference?

Why do you think we have a (nowhere near good enough but better than it was by a long way) free-range chicken industry? Why do you think some people ask about where their flesh came from? Why do you think vegetarians and vegans are rapidly growing in number?

Through violence?
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Reply #89 - Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.
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