In our societies [in the West], circa 2017, not all profess to be atheists.

In the very highest echelons of our societies [in the West], circa 2017,
we still see many people [e.g. many of whom are politicians - who colloquially, are the 'princes' and the 'priests' of our age] who publicly account themselves as being Christians, and as being church goers, and as being believers in a real and living God.



And we hear many of those same persons will claim, that we [both moslems and Christians] all worship the same God.

And, they tell us all, that the God of ISLAM and the God of Christianity [and the God of Jewish people] is the same God!

And if you too account yourself as a person of faith, perhaps you believe that too.

How very 'ecumenical' of you!


Q.
Did God [the God of the bible] ever declare that he would 'join himself' to all religions, or, to the peoples of those religions ?

"You only have I known of all the families of the earth..."


"For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure."

To those people who account themselves, as being 'Israel', our God say's.....

Isaiah 43:3
For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour....


Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.



We all worship the same God ?


Google;
a different god allah

Google;
allah another god




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Koran 9.30, 31

that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah [e.g. a Christian], is a good and virtuous person who will enjoy 'Paradise' when he dies,
all Christians are cursed by Allah,
all Christians are the enemy of Allah,
that Jesus was not God's son, and has no divinity,
that Jesus was not crucified [moslems claim that Judas, or another person, was Jesus 'stand in' at the crucifixion],
that Jesus did not die, and was not resurrected...
that Jesus is not the messiah, the redeemer [of all mankind]...

IN THE KORAN.....

" "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them;- "
Koran 4.157-159

"....we [both moslems and Christians] all worship the same God."

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James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.


Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Matthew 12:47
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48  But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49  And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50  For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

There is only one God. That is not philosophy, its dogma.

Yadda insists on using the Philosophy Forum as a pulpit from which to preach his dark-age superstition and non-verifiable mumbo jumbo. I call on the moderators to do what they are so fond of doing in busier categories and move this thread to a more suitable location, "Spirituality."

It will be more appreciated there, due to the high percentage of fruit-cakes, wackos and Jonestown Koolaid drinkers.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 9:36pm:




Dictionary;
philosophy = =
1 the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence.        a set of theories of a particular philosopher.
2 the study of the theoretical basis of a branch of knowledge or experience.
3 a theory or attitude that guides one’s behaviour.




Q.
In a non-religious sense,          why do many men(1) [in this age] object to other persons(2) professing a philosophy which they(1) reject or have rejected ?

Surely if they(1) have rejected a specific philosophy, belief, or hypothesis, then that is what they(1) believe.


But why should some people(1) [in this age] so 'violently'** object to other persons(2) holding differing beliefs, from themselves(1), [about the nature of reality and the nature of the observed 'universe'] ?

** i suggested; " 'violently' object"   e.g. according to 'issuevoter', another person should not be permitted to express their views or beliefs in this board, if those views or beliefs are absurd, according to the person known as 'issuevoter'.


That 'intellectual position' appears to be, intellectually, very contrary to notion of the rigour, which supposedly is the basis of scientific method, of open examination and investigation of all things.



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I know next to nothing, about the area of quantum physics,
but those who are studiously examining the 'area' of quantum physics have proposed that it is possible for particles (of light, and electrons) to be in two places, at the same time.


Quote:






Particles (electrons, and photons, particles of light) can be in two places, at the same time ?

That suggestion is, is, is,        just absurd !

I refuse to entertain such an idea!!!!!!

And i certainly don't want to see anyone posting that tosh and nonsense, here on OzPol !!

And certainly not on the Philosophy Forum !!!!!



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John 8:32
....ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


1 Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.






It is clear, that in this modern, scientific, and technological age,
that some that many people(1)         hate even the suggestion or the 'idea' of any intellectual enquiry,
which may produce an examine-able 'hypothesis' [whose precepts] with which they(1) violently disagree.


We live in an age, when we are surrounded by so many wanna-be tyrants, wanna-be murderers and small minded bigots.




Dictionary;


n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

Yadda wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2017 at 9:21pm: