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Reply #30 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
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Link.

Page 23 of the pdf in the first Link mentioned.

1.  Read about cleaning.

2.  Weep.



I thought you were posting actual legislation


Not some fkken stupid guide.



The 'guide' is a
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production/explanation.

1.  Read.

2.  Weep.
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Reply #31 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm
 
This may well be the situation referred to by the OP...

http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/gun-law/firearms-act-section-8-madness-the-loo...

I remain far from persuaded that the intent of the legislation is the restriction of cleaning to Firearms Dealers only. It's my view that it is implicitly included as part and parcel of ownership and use of a firearm.   
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Reply #32 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:39pm
 
Alinta wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
This may well be the situation referred to by the OP...

http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/gun-law/firearms-act-section-8-madness-the-loo...

I remain far from persuaded that the intent of the legislation is the restriction of cleaning to Firearms Dealers only. It's my view that it is implicitly included as part and parcel of ownership and use of a firearm.   


I also note that the Article (written by a Lawyer...probably the 'mate' claimed by Mr Rort) refers to an administrative decision...not one of the Courts.

The facts on that 'paintball' situation are remarkably different to a mere cleaning of a weapon.....that bloke in the article was in fact manufacturing a weapon (licenced?) from bits taken off other weapons (licenced?)

One aspect of a licencing regime is surely to keep track of individual weapons.  That will be corrupted if what this bloke did was not suppressed.

Still......if I was the author of that Article and had faith in what I was saying, I'd take that Registry decision under administrative review to get a binding Court interpretation.
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Reply #33 - Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
I think Barons practicing some confirmation bias.
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Reply #34 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:31pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
I think Barons practicing some confirmation bias.


Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:26pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:39pm:
Alinta wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
This may well be the situation referred to by the OP...

http://www.sportingshooter.com.au/gun-law/firearms-act-section-8-madness-the-loo...

I remain far from persuaded that the intent of the legislation is the restriction of cleaning to Firearms Dealers only. It's my view that it is implicitly included as part and parcel of ownership and use of a firearm.   


I also note that the Article (written by a Lawyer...probably the 'mate' claimed by Mr Rort) refers to an administrative decision...not one of the Courts.

The facts on that 'paintball' situation are remarkably different to a mere cleaning of a weapon.....that bloke in the article was in fact manufacturing a weapon (licenced?) from bits taken off other weapons (licenced?)

One aspect of a licencing regime is surely to keep track of individual weapons.  That will be corrupted if what this bloke did was not suppressed.

Still......if I was the author of that Article and had faith in what I was saying, I'd take that Registry decision under administrative review to get a binding Court interpretation.


Simon Munslow specialises in firearms laws, other lawyers take note of what he says, I have never met him.

The paintball operator was not manufacturing a paintball gun which arsie calls a weapon he was maintaining  them.

Licensing does not keep track of firearms licensing involves people it's registration that keeps track of firearms, arise claims to be a lawyer yet misses these simple things pretty obvious he is just a taxi driver.

A registered firearm must be produced when police request it , if you cannot produce it you will be charged with fail to prevent the loss or theft of a firearm there is no indication the paintball gun that was used for parts had the receiver which has the serial number disposed of illegally.

The firearms registry is run by the police, what do you think a court will say when they look at section 8 of the 1996 firearms act which says firearm license holders can only use or possess a firearm with firearm dealers having  authority to maintain (clean) and repair firearms?
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Reply #36 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
When are you handing yourself and your firearms in, Baron?   If your view is correct, you've been committing illegal acts for years.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #37 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:57pm
 
Never understood why on earth paintballs are considered firearms.
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Reply #38 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:59pm
 
hatman92 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Never understood why on earth paintballs are considered firearms.


Ever been hit with a paintball?   It hurts - a lot!
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Reply #39 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
When are you handing yourself and your firearms in, Baron?   If your view is correct, you've been committing illegal acts for years.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I don't do anything illegal bwian.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

When are you going to close your forum down bwian, nobody goes there you have to troll other forums to feed your internet addiction.
Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #40 - Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:54pm
 
hatman92 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:57pm:
Never understood why on earth paintballs are considered firearms.


The bedwetters probably crap their pants in fear when guns are mentioned, the police even want to ban toy guns.
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Re: Section 8 of 1996 firearms act,idiotic legislation
Reply #41 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:20am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Victoria:

Link.

Page 23 of the pdf in the first Link mentioned.

1.  Read about cleaning.

2.  Weep.



I thought you were posting actual legislation


Not some fkken stupid guide.



The 'guide' is a
Government
production/explanation.

1.  Read.

2.  Weep.



Still asked for the legislation and section that deals with it.


If I wanted an opinion I would have asked for it.


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Reply #42 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 8:14am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
Ever been hit with a paintball?   It hurts - a lot!


So do rocks.

I suspect arrows even more.
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Reply #43 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 8:57am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:20am:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Victoria:

Link.

Page 23 of the pdf in the first Link mentioned.

1.  Read about cleaning.

2.  Weep.



I thought you were posting actual legislation


Not some fkken stupid guide.



The 'guide' is a
Government
production/explanation.

1.  Read.

2.  Weep.



Still asked for the legislation and section that deals with it.


If I wanted an opinion I would have asked for it.



There is no Legislation which deals directly with it.  Just like there is no legislation which says you may use a pencil.
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Reply #44 - Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:20am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 8:57am:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:20am:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:23pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Victoria:

Link.

Page 23 of the pdf in the first Link mentioned.

1.  Read about cleaning.

2.  Weep.



I thought you were posting actual legislation


Not some fkken stupid guide.



The 'guide' is a
Government
production/explanation.

1.  Read.

2.  Weep.



Still asked for the legislation and section that deals with it.


If I wanted an opinion I would have asked for it.



There is no Legislation which deals directly with it.  Just like there is no legislation which says you may use a pencil.



So they should just trust a 'guideline', and hope that the government treats gun owners in a fair and reasonable manner shall they?


Considering the way that governmentstreat law abiding gun owners I wouldn't trust then to take out my garbage.

The governments job is to ensure the ongoing hysteria and mistrust of law abiding gun owners is maintained at all costs, otherwise the gun laws would be seen to be what they are; a deliberate, hysterical, over-reaction to a tragic event involving a certified retard that should have been in an asylum.



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