The human race.... or some therein.. somewhere someone once said that Neanderthals were actually more intelligent than Homo Sapiens.... they could be right based on observation.... and there is much Neanderthal DNA around in humans....

As an Alien myself - with Rh- blood etc - I have no place to say anything here..... what is is what is....

How the FORK do I get a blood group that is almost exclusively Flathead Indian or Basque?  I'm a forking Irish/Scottish/German/Jewish/Plains Indian... fer chris' sake.... Far Ken Flatheads?**

**Ah - that explains it - they lived between the Cascade Range and the Rockies.... Eastern slopes ...That's IT!! 

The Japanese are the smartest followed by the Chinese.

The Tour de France

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 6:51am:


I wouldn't quite say that. They have a really low gene pool variation. Can't think for themselves. 'Replicate' like a photo-copier only. Punch one and 10 of them fall over.

Basically, every race has its 'intelligence' and its 'stupidity'.
A black man in North America is just a big dumb labourer who is more interested in the size of his penis. Unlike a black man in Asia who comes across as more 'Academic' (unlike the blonde white guy). This is why Obama was more interested in being President of Asia - they made him look smarter.

Anyway. Every Race (x8) has their role to play in each of the (x8) Regions of the world. My race, is a family man in one part of the world, a labourer in another, a clerk in another and an Academic in another - with the other four being in support of the 'female' version of my race.

If you think Asians are smart - then you are an American.
In Australia - the 'yellow' man's future is to be a Labourer. Which is somewhat started via the Polynesians ...though they are yet to man up and play the big man's game of AFL.

We are coming towards a cultural change as well.
Where Politics will find its 'breeding' and something like Art will find its 'Academic' and individuality.

Trust me. Everything equalises, and always will.
No race is smarter than another - overall.
Sure, in America - the tiny 'white collar' Yellow man may be smarter than the 'blue collar' black labourer.
But remember, in another part of the world, its the reverse.

Enjoy 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

Jasin wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 9:11am:



You're wrong - research IQ tests -
the Japs win easily.

While only about 2% of the U.S. population is of full Jewish descent,[2] 27% of United States Nobel prize winners in the 20th century,[2][3] 25% of Fields Medal winners,[4] 25% of ACM Turing Award winners,[2] 9 out of the 19 world chess champions, and a quarter of Westinghouse Science Talent Search winners have either full or partial Jewish ancestry.[4]

White people. White people are both a mixture physicality and intellect. Asians are smart but physically weak. Blacks are strong but dumb.

Fuzzball wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Generally they are small people. They are smart though.

noones mentioned abbos, maoris or africans

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 4:11pm:


They're not worth mentioning. 

Jasin wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:


Everything what you've said is just a nice consolation for a white man with low self esteem.

thecuriousmail wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 5:09pm:
Im familiar with his work, hes been discredited by subsequent scientific studies though.

Agnes wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 6:00pm:


It's culture driven.  Indians are good at maths because they've been doing advanced mathematics for 1000s of years.  Aboriginals not so much.

thecuriousmail wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 6:29pm:
For one thing we now know for sure there is a direct correlation between brain size and IQ. Also, Gould used  pre 50s research and ignored contemparary studies.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mismeasure_of_Man

for sure there is a direct correlation between brain size and IQ

Really? And yet Einstein had an average-sized brain. Perhaps there is more to the answer.
Re brain size-IQ.
From Stanford University Neurosciences Institute, 2015:

"Some studies claim the answer is yes.

The emergence of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has made it possible to compare brain sizes of living humans, and in the ongoing hunt for a physical metric of intelligence, several researchers eagerly sought to correlate MRI measures of brain volume with IQ. Ten years ago, a meta-analysis that examined the results from 26 imaging studies concluded that the correlation between IQ and brain volume is consistently in the 0.3-0.4 range. More recently, a genome-wide association study which included 20,000 human subjects was widely reported by the media to have discovered an “IQ gene.” According to their results, certain variations in the HMGA2 gene, which codes for a protein that helps regulate DNA transcription and cell growth, are correlated with increased intracranial volume as well as enhanced IQ.

To be honest, I find these correlation a bit unsettling. Clearly, there is more to intelligence than brain size, or classic geniuses like Albert Einstein, who had an average-sized brain, would have been out of luck! It is important to think about how we should actually define intelligence, and to keep in mind that the studies cited above only show a correlation between brain size and a person’s score on an intelligence quotient test. Although IQ is historically the most widely used intelligence measure, by no means does it account for all aspects of human intelligence, nor is it an entirely consistent readout of cognitive ability between individuals. Furthermore, a closer look at the results of the gene-association study reveal that most of the relationship the authors found between HMGA2 gene variations and cranial size could be accounted for by the fact that the gene is also correlated with human height. Correlational studies have only established a weak to moderate linear relationship between brain size and intelligence, which is enough fuel to ensure that the brain size and intelligence hypothesis doesn’t burn out, but does little to explain the true basis of human cognitive capacity.
Luckily, there is much more to a brain when you look at it under a microscope, and most neuroscientists now believe that the complexity of cellular and molecular organization of neural connections, or synapses, is what truly determines a brain’s computational capacity. This view is supported by findings that intelligence is more correlated with frontal lobe volume and volume of gray matter, which is dense in neural cell bodies and synapses, than sheer brain size. Other research comparing proteins at synapses between different species suggests that what makes up synapses at the molecular level has had a huge impact on intelligence throughout evolutionary history. So, although having a big brain is somewhat predictive of having big smarts, intelligence probably depends much more on how efficiently different parts of your brain communicate with each other. "

Lewis et al is the only serious criticism of Gould that I am aware of, and it is discussed here. Discredited? No.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj3grajtODVAhVBTLwKHZAbAcYQFghsMA0&url=https%3A%2F%2Fphilpapers.org%2Farchive%2FKAPGOM.pdf&usg=AFQjCNE9XEYZduM9d4cseJ4oaoBs5j2kMw

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 7:40pm:


Good scaffolders.

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 7:58pm:


I did previously say I thought it was a todger-pulling exercise.

It is the kind of question that is pejorative, as in: "I have a point I wish to make by asking the question", and that point usually involves a denigration or belittlement.

I'm not talking, as far as I remember, about Rhino, but I'm sure the crazy racist comments  of other posters is still there.

thecuriousmail wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:
I just posted a number of researchers discrediting Gould including Jensen Davis Rushton Deary and Flynn. Are you retarded?

You would be better served in asking which ethnic or cultural group has the best education systems and approaches...

Is it not funny how your maths-driven Indians, your Japanese, your Chinese etc all go West (young man) for the best education?

I personally don't think there are huge differences in ethnic groups as such - some are smart and some are not, and the range is from the very smart down to the very dumb.

Then there is the question of sense and sensibility... two people receive the same input but arrive at two totally different outcomes.... and sense is what you receive from your environment, while sensibility is what you actually do with it.

In that context, our education system has flaws, as clearly shown by the graduates of the often 'best' universities here and what they end up doing with their apparently amazing knowledge and ability.... many such behave as children let loose in a lolly shop..... look at out educated politicians of all stamps.... bunch of kids in a lolly shop, and not one solid idea (though perhaps some soiled ones) of real value amongst them other than 'the next business deal or manipulation to suit meself'.

What HAVE we done in this country to deserve this?  Looked at a cross-eyed Chinaman or something?

something in addition to "intelligence" is necessary for success ... grit? persistance?  look at ethnic diaspora, whether the Germans, Chinese, Jews, et al - they have all been successful. it seems that populations that live in the same region generation after generation are the ones who lack success and resent the immigrants with their grit who make it.

Which race is most intelligent?

The HUMAN race of course 

Not whales, sorry

No, m’dear, but whale/dolphin brains just are not of a kind to be highly intelligent.

Yeah, Homo sapience, “wise man” but you wonder some times, just how bloody wise are we anyway? Most animals won’t chit in their nests—but we do!

And we force other species to conform to us. Low level wolves decided it was an easier life hanging around human settlement to life in the pack where higher level wolves bit them and teased them. Poor fools!

Early human no doubt appreciated the early warning mostly–wild wolves around their settlements or camps gave of a big truly–wild animal (lion or bear or truly wild wolves) approaching. Silly wolves, humans drove off the wilder of the semi–wild wolves and gradually tamed the wolves hanging around human settlements.

So now we have Irish Wolf Hounds, Bernese Mountain dogs—and chihuahuas.

What is more useless than a chihuahua? Bugger off! Before my crazed terrier the dog that lived with me was a chihuahua. Yes, yes, a lapdog BUT like all dogs she loved walking! A lapdog, one whose life if devoted to making its pack leader happy, I suppose.

My present dog is a terrier. Some Jack Russel (gives her that HUGE prey drive I reckon) some Maltese some—who knows, all terrier tho! Demi loves nothing so much as to spend every day exploring the back yard, looking for scent of possible prey. So far, 3 rats, 2 chickens and one lizard that I know of!

Terriers make up the largest class of dogs. The biggest terrier is the Airedale terrier, the result of a cross between the Welsh Terrier and the Otter Hound. When you are paying £1000 in the 19thC for a mile of trout or salmon stream you don’t want any *&@$ otters catching and eating trout/salmon and STUFF The Wind in the Willows!

Yorkshire terriers. Read Jerome K Jerome “Three Men in a Boat” about these “angelic” dogs! One day at Earth Dog practice a Yorkie was being coaxed to go though a “tunnel” (a three sided bit of woodwork (2 sides and a roof) and the instructor put treats every few cm along the length of the bit of tunnel sitting on the ground. Nope, the spoiled @$%*& Yorkie wanted N O T H I N G to do with it. I was next, walked into the ring with my mutt, took the lead off—and, ZZZZOOM! there she went eating all the treats the instructor had put down for the Yorkie  Not silly!

Very far from silly indeed: she would go down the tunnel and even reached the (abattoir–slaughtered) rabbit but she always knew the easier way was above ground: oops,  fence was in the way.

Demi was rather better at Tracking: someone would leave an article at the start point then walk out a simple rectangular track (gets bigger and more complicated as you move up the ranks) and Demi was pretty good at following a track. The Bernese Mountain dogs and collies were more anxious to please their owners/pack leaders than a bloody terrier! Maybe I am unfair, she passed one trial fairly easily, the other two trials (to give us the Tracking Dog title) the bitch was more interested in following the thousand or so scent trails left by sheep, wallabies, rabbits and hares, wombats etc etc.

Anyway. We have dogs that can run faster, see better, smell better etc than a wild wolf. But the poor creatures gave up a HUGE amount of brain to live with us. Guess our ancient ancestors did not like too wild a wolf living around the perimeter of the campsite or maybe they liked the more docile wolves better?

Where packs of wild wolves and packs of feral dogs both live in the same area the wolves do much better than the feral dogs. We did ask our doggy friends to give up a lot to share our campfires and be thrown the odd bone even if they later left us to go back to the wild.

Some religions abhor dogs. Silly twits!

Dogs are bloody useful! Are you a bit deaf? A dog will let you know, oh yeah, that some cretin is standing at your front door—and if a burglar has broken in your dog will give you the time to barricade the room you are in and call the cops. A Rottweiler will likely deter a burglar anyway  Living alone? Kids have left the nest, the spouse has shuffled off this mortal coil ? With a dog you are never lonely!

But dogs likely have more brains, more of the intelligence that allows them to live in human dwellings than a dolphin or its close relation the killer whale has. The big brain a dolphin has is needed to control its big boody.

Yes, I am sure that eventually we will learn to communicate with dolphins, but it will not be as rich a communication as we have with our dogs.

All carnivores are intelligent, have to be just to get a meal! To a carnivore famine is just one meal away. Carnivores need to be able to follow the herds of herbivores or be able to survive long periods with no meal. Even scavengers (scavenger/carnivores, e.g. hyaenas, Tasmanian Devil) have to be able to cope with no meals or follow the herds of herbivores.

Semi–wild dogs like dingoes or Cape Hunting Dogs have been used in the hunt: they have much more brain capacity than collies or terriers.

Alas! Even the mutt that shares your dwelling has more brains than a dolphin or whale.

rhino wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 8:27pm:


Genetically Maoris are Chinese.
Please next time try to be logical.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 19^th, 2017 at 2:16pm:


No, the RAT RACE!

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 18^th, 2017 at 2:45pm:


Well, anyone can be strong, regardless of race. But I don't think I have seen black people do more than run, jump and steal. White people seem to be multiskilled. Asians flexible.

capitosinora wrote on Aug 19^th, 2017 at 9:43am:



Maoris are Polynesians - you fool.

By the way - there are no full blooded Maoris left.

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The 4th at Randwick ?????

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 19^th, 2017 at 4:11pm:


Er  DHead? there was that matter of the American President.

Whatever your personal view, that cannot be denied..

capitosinora wrote on Aug 19^th, 2017 at 9:43am:
No they arent, try again. Damn theres some fools commenting in this thread.

How very one-eyed of you.

Nothing personal really, except you do post and I do reply, should I consider it warranted.

Que?

I wasn't there Manuel.