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She was right to tell them to shut their bubs up. (Read 1132 times)
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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:58pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:48pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Looks to me like the Owner went about it in an over the top manner.


You might be right, but she said she told them in a 'friendly' manner.

THEY said she shouted.



No doubt both are true. You would have to shout to be heard over the screaming babies. Perhaps they misinterpreted. It can be hard to shout in a friendly manner. The Chinese manage though.
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Reply #16 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:02am
 
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, where anything goes. No, it's a cafe, & a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.


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Reply #17 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:16am
 
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, anything goes. No, a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.




Yes indeed
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Reply #18 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:08am
 
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, where anything goes. No, it's a cafe, & a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.





what a load of crap .... if you accept kids thinking they're quiet little angels who sit still in a corner while you finish your coffee or meal, then you shouldn't be running a cafe.

Like I said, if they don't want kids, put a sign up at the front of the shop saying so, BEFORE all the parents  come in and order ..... once you've accepted their order, you accept their kids might act like kids.
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Reply #19 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:08am:
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, where anything goes. No, it's a cafe, & a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.





what a load of crap .... if you accept kids thinking they're quiet little angels who sit still in a corner while you finish your coffee or meal, then you shouldn't be running a cafe.

Like I said, if they don't want kids, put a sign up at the front of the shop saying so, BEFORE all the parents  come in and order ..... once you've accepted their order, you accept their kids might act like kids.


Show me a sign anywhere where is states "Kids Accepted".

No, they are permitted when accompanied by an adult. An adult to keep them in line. It's not the fault of the kids that is the problem, but the fault of the adult who can't keep them in line. Therefore asking them to leave, as a last resort, is the responsible way to resolve the problem if the adults can't act like adults, & demand acceptable behavior from their unruly children, in a place of business where such behavior is detrimental to that business.

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Reply #20 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:38am
 
we live in pretty petty sicko times..

so bwave they go on FACEBOOK...\][


and I will killya stone dead..

Angry Angry Angry

what an unpleasant group of mums..

lets not forget they are in charge of babies who will eventually grow up with an attitude. Angry
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Reply #21 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:39am
 
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:30am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:08am:
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, where anything goes. No, it's a cafe, & a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.





what a load of crap .... if you accept kids thinking they're quiet little angels who sit still in a corner while you finish your coffee or meal, then you shouldn't be running a cafe.

Like I said, if they don't want kids, put a sign up at the front of the shop saying so, BEFORE all the parents  come in and order ..... once you've accepted their order, you accept their kids might act like kids.


Show me a sign anywhere where is states "Kids Accepted".

No, they are permitted when accompanied by an adult. An adult to keep them in line. It's not the fault of the kids that is the problem, but the fault of the adult who can't keep them in line. Therefore asking them to leave, as a last resort, is the responsible way to resolve the problem if the adults can't act like adults, & demand acceptable behavior from their unruly children, in a place of business where such behavior is detrimental to that business.



If the door is open to the public then kids are allowed unless otherwise stated. I know of several restaurants that have a 'no children allowed' policy.
The problem is that this cafe owner wants it both ways, she doesn't want the kids but she wants the parents money. It doesn't work that way.
If you've ever had kids you'd understand that the whole 'responsible adults' line is a load of sh1t. Sometimes kids are scream and cry and when that happens nothing you do will stop it. You just have to let it ride out.
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Reply #22 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:46am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:39am:
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:30am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:08am:
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:02am:
I think this guy says it for me.

"when I go out for "chow" I do not expect to be in the unwanted company of spoiled screaming snit-fit children, as their "parents" act like this is normal......maybe it is....in THEIR home.....but no place in a restaurant. most of the times "parents" do NOT want to act like "parents" and instead be "friends" with their children, which leads to even more disruptive behavior."

Since when is a business required to accept the actions of some of their patrons, to the detriment of all their other patrons? It's not a social free-for-all, where anything goes. No, it's a cafe, & a cafe is a place of business, where people congregate in a mild, gentle, easy going atmosphere, to enjoy a cuppa, & there is something called acceptable behavior respecting the rights of others when doing so.





what a load of crap .... if you accept kids thinking they're quiet little angels who sit still in a corner while you finish your coffee or meal, then you shouldn't be running a cafe.

Like I said, if they don't want kids, put a sign up at the front of the shop saying so, BEFORE all the parents  come in and order ..... once you've accepted their order, you accept their kids might act like kids.


Show me a sign anywhere where is states "Kids Accepted".

No, they are permitted when accompanied by an adult. An adult to keep them in line. It's not the fault of the kids that is the problem, but the fault of the adult who can't keep them in line. Therefore asking them to leave, as a last resort, is the responsible way to resolve the problem if the adults can't act like adults, & demand acceptable behavior from their unruly children, in a place of business where such behavior is detrimental to that business.



If the door is open to the public then kids are allowed unless otherwise stated. I know of several restaurants that have a 'no children allowed' policy.
The problem is that this cafe owner wants it both ways, she doesn't want the kids but she wants the parents money. It doesn't work that way.
If you've ever had kids you'd understand that the whole 'responsible adults' line is a load of sh1t. Sometimes kids are scream and cry and when that happens nothing you do will stop it. You just have to let it ride out.



what you are saying is..

dont dare ask anyone to behave in your business   unless you want nasty attacks on facebook...

because you havent said a word about that..


she was not dealing with ONE child  but a group
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Reply #23 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:50am
 
cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:46am:
what you are saying is..

dont dare ask anyone to behave in your business   unless you want nasty attacks on facebook...

because you havent said a word about that..


she was not dealing with ONE child  but a group   


no, what I am saying is that if you don't want kids, say so. Don't wait until after everyone has ordered and is into their meal or coffee before you whinge. Kids will be kids and sometimes that means they carry on.  I'm happy to not bring my kids into your coffee shop as long as you don't take my money first.
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Reply #24 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:54am
 
what makes it even worse is that this cafe in particular promotes itself as a child friendly cafe. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:56am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:54am:
what makes it even worse is that this cafe in particular promotes itself as a child friendly cafe. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



so you have no right to ask a simple ... can you keep it down a bit for my other customers....



got it!

she may have had to raise her voice to be heard over the noise... Roll Eyes

I dont know I wasnt there..
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Reply #26 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:57am
 
cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:56am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:54am:
what makes it even worse is that this cafe in particular promotes itself as a child friendly cafe. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



so you have no right to ask a simple ... can you keep it down a bit for my other customers....



got it!

she may have had to raise her voice to be heard over the noise... Roll Eyes

I dont know I wasnt there..



she kicked them out cods.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #27 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:03am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:39am:
If the door is open to the public then kids are allowed unless otherwise stated.


Yes. Allowed if they are made to behave appropriately by their parental guardians.

And just like adults must act, they are expected to act properly, & if they can't, they can, along with their children, be asked to leave if they fail to get the children to act respectfully. The ADULT is not there to let them run free & do as they wish, the ADULT is there to make sure they act properly in a place of business.


That's what's wrong with society today. It's the lack of respect for others. Lack of respect for the business owners & the other patrons. The parents fail in their main responsibility to parent. They set a poor example for their children in how they need to act in public. The way they act at home is one thing, but the way they act in public leaves much to be desired.

If they wish to run free to do as they wish the parents should not be taking them to a place of business, no they should pack up some food & take them to a park, where even dogs must be picked up after. That is if dogs are even permitted.

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Reply #28 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:05am
 
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:03am:
And just like adults must act, they are expected to act properly,



but they're kids, not adults .... and unlike most adults kids do not always have control over their emotions. Sometimes that means they carry over the slightest thing. If you accept kids you accept that they act like kids. Expecting kids to act like adults is naive.


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Reply #29 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:05am:
LearJet wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 9:03am:
And just like adults must act, they are expected to act properly,



but they're kids, not adults .... and unlike most adults kids do not always have control over their emotions. Sometimes that means they carry over the slightest thing. If you accept kids you accept that they act like kids. Expecting kids to act like adults is naive.



The business owner or the other patrons did not give birth to them, therefore they are not given free go to do whatever they wish to do, unrestrained.

Like I said, pack lunch & take them to a public park. They aren't fit to eat in a cafe, & neither are their children.

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