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Reply #315 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:15pm

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:35am:

Bobby the oligarchy fleeces us (you, me the country) to the tune of billions, $122 million is but a pebble in a lake.

No it's not - that money could be used to house homeless people -
to do something - anything - worthwhile -

not just make printers rich.

The elitist politicians don't have the right to upturn the most important society institution we have, that is for society itself to decide, and hang the costs.
They will only spend the money on importing terrorists anyway.

Shouldn't it be for individuals to decide?

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Reply #316 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:22pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

It is a religious institution formed to ensure that a man and a woman are joined in holy matromony with the intent of having children.

So, if it's a religious institution, then why not abolish the legal definition of marriage, institute instead Civil Unions, and allow religious institutions to define and confer marriage on couples?

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

No they dont, in virtually every religion, the joining of same sex is seen as a sin or at tge very least ill advised.
Simply because the primary purpose of marriage is to propergate the species.
Something same sex couples can never do.

Most religions consider ALL SEX to be a sin, but realize that it's necessary for procreation. So, given this, all 'married' couples who have protected sex are actually committing a sin, and shouldn't be considered 'married' until they give birth to children?

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

If same sex joining is repugnant to religion, and marriage is a religious insitution, why do gays so vehemently want to be married?

They don't. They want equal legal recognition concerning their contractual arrangement with another person.

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Simply because they want to punish those who they see as holding their mental illness back..

Are you trolling? Or are you serious? The entire psychological community worldwide doesn't consider homosexuality a mental illness? Are you denying what 99.9% of science has proven?

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

There will be cheering and rampant sexual orgies to celebrate thier win.

So, men and women don't have sexual orgies? What if a married man has an orgy with several women? Should his married status be annulled due to his/her action?

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Because its all about LUST not LOVE so without binding
love, the sham marriages will all fal apart.

So, that means then that all marriages shouldn't involve sex, because sex is lustful and is inherently sinful. That means that the majority of marriages in Australia should be annulled.

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Reply #317 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 5:50pm

As predicted, plebiscite brings out the crazies

"The remarkable thing about Shakespeare," Robert Graves said, "is that he is really very good – in spite of all the people who say he is very good."

And the unremarkable thing about the plebiscite on marriage equality is that really has unleashed precisely the demonisation of gays that we all feared would happen, just as we had predicted would happen. Instead of the parliament resolving the issue quickly and easily with a conscience vote, we go to a non-compulsory, non-binding, glorified opinion poll costing $122 million, which in the process gives a platform to every homophobe in the land to unburden themselves of their bigotry.

And yes, I accept plenty of decent people, who are not homophobes, are against marriage equality for all kinds of reasons. But, in the meantime, you only had to see Bronywn Bishop among the crazies on Sky the other night to realise the damage it does. Apparently, if we allow marriage equality in Oz, if we recognise the rights of gays, we are only one step away from men marrying dogs, and allowing five people to marry!

Oh, and according to Tony Abbott, did you know this is all about religious freedom and stopping political correctness in its tracks, not basic human rights. The Australian Christian Lobby has the hide to refer to the children of gay parents as the "stolen generation". Can you imagine the hurt such words cause?

Meanwhile, on Twitter, you have to see it to believe it. My own favourite so far, is an image of a happy groom and his bride, above the line, "I will never get to call her my wife …" Yup. If we allow marriage equality, all of us in traditional marriages will be diminished!

And far more to the point than the public figures and institutions above, is what is happening among the folk. A friend's daughter called her in tears on Friday, because an online forum at her high school discussing the plebiscite had resulted in endless posts saying gays were sick, should be lynched, etc. How would a gay teen go, reading such posts. This is happening, now, across the land, all because the government in general, and Malcolm Turnbull in particular, did not have the strength to do what needed to be done.

And to those of the commentariat who sneer that the government had to keep their promise on the plebiscite, I ask: where the hell were you when the Abbott government broke their promises on "no cuts to education, no cuts to health ... no cuts to the ABC"?

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/as-predicted-plebiscite-brings-out-the-crazies-201...

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Reply #318 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:14pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:13pm:

Ok

Lets look at this from a purely logical perspective.

Where does marriage come from?

It is a religious institution formed to ensure that a man and a woman are joined in holy matromony with the intent of having children.

No.

Why do you people keep getting this so wrong?

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Reply #321 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

Ajax wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:30am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:19am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:11am:

Marriage is between a man and a woman, they usually get married to start a family and have children.

I don't see many married couples down the toilets of the local parks after dark waiting wanting for a sexual interlude with some stranger.

Okay, I have to ask: why are you down the toilets of the local parks after dark?

If you know so little on the activities of these people why are you defending them.

Anyone who has been out and about knows about that gay men gather in the public toilets of our parks and gardens to blow each other.

Ask one of them, there not shy in telling you all about it.

Now if these people who are in dire need of a psychiatrist have the right to marry then they will have rights to children.

Do you really want these people to bring kids up Gregg...??

They can bring up kids now.

You do know that, don't you?

They don't have to be married.

Well then the day that hetrosexuals will become the minority has started.

Let me guess: you think that children brought up by gay parents will turn out gay as well?

That's what you actually believe, isn't it?

'Brought up by straight parents = turn out straight'.

'Brought up by gay parents = turn out gay'.

Well, how do you explain the millions of gay people who have been brought up by two straight parents?

I'm curious.

Greg thinks his curly thinking will break western civilisation!

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Reply #322 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:19pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:15pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:49am:

Ajax wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:35am:

Bobby the oligarchy fleeces us (you, me the country) to the tune of billions, $122 million is but a pebble in a lake.

No it's not - that money could be used to house homeless people -
to do something - anything - worthwhile -

not just make printers rich.

The elitist politicians don't have the right to upturn the most important society institution we have, that is for society itself to decide, and hang the costs.
They will only spend the money on importing terrorists anyway.

Shouldn't it be for individuals to decide?

Ideas exist in your head buddy!
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Reply #323 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

Auggie wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 4:22pm: