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Reply #90 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
Ajax wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:58am:
Sex workers are really damaged goods both emotionally and physically.

The job makes them numb to life and all its emotions.



They certainly can be ... but not all are. Not by a long shot.
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Reply #91 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:52pm
 
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Dont like the stigma, then dont do it. The reason they do it is easy money.



Easy? Surely you jest?
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Reply #92 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:19pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
Why are users of prostitutes so universally stigmatised?



hhhmmm, maybe people think they are 'unable' to form a traditional relationship ?
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Reply #93 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:18pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Dont like the stigma, then dont do it. The reason they do it is easy money.



Easy? Surely you jest?
Yet another subject you know little about but pretend knowledge. Speak to these pros as I have many of them (and no, not as a customer) , they do it primarily for the money which they could not make in a normal job. Thats just the facts.  I dont look down on these women (and men), they perform a valuable service as far as I am concerned but thinking that they are somehow forced into it through circumstances is absolute nonsense.
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Reply #94 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:26pm
 


Marriage has a lot in common with prostitution.

Men are exploited in both.

Money is exchanged for sex.

Prostitution is just a bit more honest than marriage.

I think the women that are anti prostitution are unhappy that the sex workers are under cutting the non sex workers.

Makes me wonder if we should have a daily report on the value of sex,,, like we do with gold ,oil, the A$
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Immigration reports that female immigration from Thailand is up 10% for the month, this has sent the price of sex down to an all time low of...
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Reply #96 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:37pm
 
miketrees wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
Marriage has a lot in common with prostitution.

Men are exploited in both.

Money is exchanged for sex.

Prostitution is just a bit more honest than marriage.

I think the women that are anti prostitution are unhappy that the sex workers are under cutting the non sex workers.

Makes me wonder if we should have a daily report on the value of sex,,, like we do with gold ,oil, the A$


Paul McCartney got done for  $50m for 4 years.
A very good case for just using high class hookers.

I suspect he could even have afforded a bipedal one Wink
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Ah yes, Heather Anne Mills was definatly 50% off
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Reply #98 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:45pm
 
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Dont like the stigma, then dont do it. The reason they do it is easy money.



Easy? Surely you jest?
Yet another subject you know little about but pretend knowledge. Speak to these pros as I have many of them (and no, not as a customer) , they do it primarily for the money which they could not make in a normal job. Thats just the facts.  I dont look down on these women (and men), they perform a valuable service as far as I am concerned but thinking that they are somehow forced into it through circumstances is absolute nonsense.



nice to have some mature comments
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Reply #99 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:50pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
Dont like the stigma, then dont do it. The reason they do it is easy money.



Easy? Surely you jest?
Yet another subject you know little about but pretend knowledge. Speak to these pros as I have many of them (and no, not as a customer) , they do it primarily for the money which they could not make in a normal job. Thats just the facts.  I dont look down on these women (and men), they perform a valuable service as far as I am concerned but thinking that they are somehow forced into it through circumstances is absolute nonsense.



nice to have some mature comments



Are you kidding Sprint? Rhino just stigmatised sex workers by saying they all get money in excess of what they could warn in a "normal" job ... easily.

He knows stuff because he's spoken to some sex workers before so can quite confidently speak for all of them.

Anyway, aside from this being a load of utter bollocks, it doesn't address the question i actually asked him .. which was to qualify what he meant about it being "easy" work.
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Reply #100 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:57pm
 

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............ they do it primarily for the money which they could not make in a normal job. Thats just the facts.  I dont look down on these women (and men), they perform a valuable service as far as I am concerned ........


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Reply #101 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:09pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:01pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:36pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
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What use are anybody's morals to this discussion?


This discussion is all about morals. Your morals. You speaking down to everyone about the negative thoughts they have about whores.

Do you think it is immoral to have sex with people for money? Are you so afraid of your own moral values that you would publicly disown them lest they offend prostitutes?



Morals is synonymous with stigma now?

Please explain?


Stigma is more an antonym of moral.



At least it is of ethical .. which i'm considerably more interested in than morality.


I tend to the word "ethical" but so often they are too close to distinguish. I'm not sure it makes a difference. I guess "moral" is just more a word owned by religion.

edit: I see ethics as the personal, morals seems more a tribal/goup thing.


Sure there's some overlap but i'm pretty reconciled with my interpretation of the distinctions between the two.


Do you think it is ethical to have sex with people for money?

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Are you kidding Sprint? Rhino just stigmatised sex workers by saying they all get money in excess of what they could warn in a "normal" job ... easily.


Why else do you think they do it? The flexible hours? The interesting people they meat?
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Reply #102 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:11pm
 
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Do you think it is ethical to have sex with people for money?


Define 'ethics' and whose you are relying upon.
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Reply #103 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:14pm
 
It's the oldest profession in the world.

Outside drug addiction ... it's a career of choice for those who do it professionally.

There are many many women who by their nature & actions are no more than gold digging prostitutes.

My old man always thought that Sonia McMahon fitted that bill .....

and Susan Peacock,Sangster, Renouf wasn't far behind.

She even wrote a book ... How to make a $million with only one tnuc working for you.  Grin

There are many high profile socialites you might hang that descriptor on. Rose Hancock comes to mind.

Some younger women also operate in similar fashion.

Any woman that goes on the "game" or is involved in the porn industry knows full well there would be a stigma attached if it were to become publicly known.
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Reply #104 - Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:25pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:46pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:00pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:22pm:
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mothra wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 9:39pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
Also, people tend to assume women have lower moral standards just because they choose to have sex for money. This is very unfair. They get less respect than someone who flips burgers at Maccas.



Yes. It is. And equally unfair for the male sex workers. And the trans ones.


Are there any criticisms of the moral standards of whores that you consider fair? Or are we to treat all career decisions as being of equal value?


Why are your moral standards and value assessments more important than treating people with basic decency and respect and protecting them by law?


Who said anything about one moral being more important than another? I asked you whether it was fair. If people think it is immoral to have sex with someone for money, is it unfair for them to pass moral judgement on someone who does?

Do you think it is immoral to have sex with people for money?


Sweden fined men for paying for sex, but not women for accepting payment for it... is that where mothra wants us to go?  All men are filthy rapist beasts and women who do sex are not.... that'd go over a treat in the Hunting Grounds..... sexual equality be damned.... women are still victims no matter which way you roll the pork...

Good work if you can get it....  Cool



Why must you obsessively make absolutely everything about gender?

And do so ridiculously?


You do  Roll Eyes
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