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Re: The stigma of sex work comes with a high cost
Reply #45 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:02am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 12:23am:
Mothra - that is a particularly good topic you have risen.

I apologise for the comments other men have made, but not all us men are the same.

Yes, sex workers are generally female and are falsely heavily biased negatively by society.

(Here comes the abuse against me), A friend of mine used to use female sex workers and commented that they are excellent psychologists.

I would prefer it if you totally ignored the expected trolling comments.

We can have an adult conversation.


I rather thought I was having that adult conversation............

Part of the reason for people becoming sex workers is the money involved... if you wish to trade off you standing in the community for filthy lucre.. that is your own choice.. but you should not complain about it....

The world is full of amateur psychologists..... they always know all the answers, which is why they are where they are.....  Huh
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Reply #46 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:11am
 
Downe at Ye Olde Parent/Teacher Night:-

"Hi - I'm a CBA bank manager!"  (shunned)....

"Hi - I'm an advisor on WMD to John Howard!"  (shunned)

"Hi - I own shares in power companies and toll roads!"  (shunned)

"Hi - I'm a sex worker!"

"Oh, wow - you must have so many stories to tell the kids - let me introduce you around and you can sit down with them and tell them all about it... maybe you could give the girls a few pointers, too!  Your life must be sooo interesting.... how did you get into that business?"
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Reply #47 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:44am
 


Downe at Ye Olde Parent/Teacher Night:-

"Hi - I'm a CBA bank manager!"  (shunned)....

"Hi - I'm an advisor on WMD to John Howard!"  (shunned)

"Hi - I own shares in power companies and toll roads!"  (shunned)

"Hi - I'm a sex worker!"

"Oh, wow - you must have so many stories to tell the kids - let me introduce you around and you can sit down with them and tell them all about it... maybe you could give the girls a few pointers, too!  Your life must be sooo interesting.... how did you get into that business?"



No one has mentioned that its the oldest profession?

It predates humans.

I forget which species of monkey it was but the females had more sex with the males that brought them food.

We cant win,,, its in our genes,,, well in and out of our genes.

I also remember a long time ago when they were legalising prostitution, one anti legalising person asked if they would have kids going to the legal brothel on work experience?

Some people got twisty little minds I tell ya!
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Reply #48 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:53am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
I don't have a problem with those that do it because they want to, at least they're out their trying to get ahead  .... my only problem is the ones who do it because of drug addiction


I don't think you understand the sheer uncompromising slavery that drug-addition imposes on its victims. For years I've been calling for the Death Penalty for those who work in the illicit drugs industry ~ from the Mr. Bigs to the lowliest dealers on the streets who aren't addicts themselves.

If you've never been addicted to smoking or alcohol, then you have zero knowledge of what it's like to become a victim.

It's not a moral problem, it's a medical problem.
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Reply #49 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:05am
 
Giving up smoking was the hardest thing I ever did. I remember walking a long way at 2.00am to buy a packet of cigarettes.

But I never kicked somebody’s door down to rob them, like some prick did to my shop. $600 just to replace the glass! The junky got maybe $10 in silver. He took my change tray with the silver out the tray, so there I was, 8.00 Saturday morning needing to find a bloody change tray to fit my till. Found a place open, bought the tray, put it in the till. Shot out to get a new silver float, come back to the shop at 9.05—and some bastard is grumpy because I was 5 minutes late. He could see the hole the junky had kicked in the glass door, glass all over the floor, grumpy because I opened at 9.05 instead of 9.00am!

Addiction sucks and not just for the addict.
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Reply #50 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:08am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
Jasin wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
I think Liz Hurley and Mariah Carey are prostitutes.

They obviously only date men 'for the money'.



Mariah's more of an escort.

I don't think Packer ever had sex with her.



It was reported that she told him quite explicitly ~ "No sex until the wedding night". Poor sucker had to wank off from the top deck of the luxury yacht into the waters off Monte Carlo or wherever for all the months he spent with her, and meanwhile the poor sap even bought her a 50 million dollar Engagement ring ...

When he finally got tired of jerkin' his gherkin' into the waters off all those Celebrity Holiday Destinations from the top deck of these luxury cruisers ~ that's when he called it "QUITS!" and crawled back to Australia looking like the biggest fool God ever put breath into.

She fleeced him like a lamb. 

Jimmy Packer's pecker spent long, lonely months on those cruise yachts while she teased him along about a Wedding Night that would be filled with bedroom firecrackers and rocketry.
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Reply #51 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:55am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:53am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
I don't have a problem with those that do it because they want to, at least they're out their trying to get ahead  .... my only problem is the ones who do it because of drug addiction


I don't think you understand the sheer uncompromising slavery that drug-addition imposes on its victims. For years I've been calling for the Death Penalty for those who work in the illicit drugs industry ~ from the Mr. Bigs to the lowliest dealers on the streets who aren't addicts themselves.

If you've never been addicted to smoking or alcohol, then you have zero knowledge of what it's like to become a victim.

It's not a moral problem, it's a medical problem. 



I pretty much agree with this.

Most addictions are a byproduct of an obsessive nature
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Reply #52 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:05am:
Giving up smoking was the hardest thing I ever did. I remember walking a long way at 2.00am to buy a packet of cigarettes.

But I never kicked somebody’s door down to rob them, like some prick did to my shop. $600 just to replace the glass! The junky got maybe $10 in silver. He took my change tray with the silver out the tray, so there I was, 8.00 Saturday morning needing to find a bloody change tray to fit my till. Found a place open, bought the tray, put it in the till. Shot out to get a new silver float, come back to the shop at 9.05—and some bastard is grumpy because I was 5 minutes late. He could see the hole the junky had kicked in the glass door, glass all over the floor, grumpy because I opened at 9.05 instead of 9.00am!

Addiction sucks and not just for the addict.



I have heard that cigarettes is the hardest habit to give up.

Harder than heroin.
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Re: The stigma of sex work comes with a high cost
Reply #53 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:00am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:53am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 10th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
I don't have a problem with those that do it because they want to, at least they're out their trying to get ahead  .... my only problem is the ones who do it because of drug addiction


I don't think you understand the sheer uncompromising slavery that drug-addition imposes on its victims. For years I've been calling for the Death Penalty for those who work in the illicit drugs industry ~ from the Mr. Bigs to the lowliest dealers on the streets who aren't addicts themselves.

If you've never been addicted to smoking or alcohol, then you have zero knowledge of what it's like to become a victim.

It's not a moral problem, it's a medical problem. 



of course not herb .... this is another area of expertise that you have zero experience in Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
that's why you know better than everyone else. Just like you're expertise with women and children. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #54 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:02am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:56am:
I have heard that cigarettes is the hardest habit to give up.


I think if you really want to give them up, it's fairly easy ....... it's when you try to give them up for other reasons that it gets difficult.
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Reply #55 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:08am
 
When I found the motivation it was pretty easy. Many long years trying to give up tho.
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Reply #56 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:23am
 
the phenomenom of stigmatising women who work in the sex industry falls into the frame of what i call "slut-shaming".

again, this phenomenom needs to be seen for what it is.

the beta male, the pathetic little puke, fat steve sitting on the couch with his fat wife has to maintain "state".

he cant acknowledge that he is a pathetic puke and he has a fat wife and they dont have good sex.

he and his fat wife (lets call her fat jenny) could hit the gym, eat good food, stop whining and complaining to each other and become awesome lovers.
but this would require a lot of "work " and "effort" and fat steve and fat jenny dont like that idea.

so how can these two scrubs feel good about themselves when they see a woman who is very sexually active, not conforming to "group think", is taking massive action, is courageous, not seeking approval and is living life on "her" terms.

they shame her.

group think and modern social conditioning call on all the scrubs and lazy layabouts to shame those who stray from the herd.

what the sex worker needs to do is use their failed lives and mediocre existences as a "cuationary tale".

she needs to "draw state from within", be "grounded in her own life", basicly not give a f*ck and then continue towards her north star.

women who find a champ of a man to be with , can be very sexual and dont need to "wear the pants" and "man up".
But there are so few "real men" and so many "fat steves" that women are forced to take control of their own lives and their own sexuality and this is totally the fault of fat steve and his fat co dependant wife.

those at the bottom of the pyramid, who hate their mediocre lives will always hate on success.
because there are so many of them (most people are failures), the social narrative will always hate on a woman in such an industry.

the fact they hate you, usually means you are doing something right  Wink
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Reply #57 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:50am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:08am:
When I found the motivation it was pretty easy. Many long years trying to give up tho.


Oh hell no. I didn't have 'many long years trying to give up'.

I had many long years of enjoying every cigarette I smoked. I gave up in sympathy when my brother was told he either give up smoking or lose a leg to poor circulation.
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Reply #58 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:57am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:50am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:08am:
When I found the motivation it was pretty easy. Many long years trying to give up tho.


Oh hell no. I didn't have 'many long years trying to give up'.

I had many long years of enjoying every cigarette I smoked. I gave up in sympathy when my brother was told he either give up smoking or lose a leg to poor circulation.


You enjoyed every cigarette?

That you could give up in sympathy with your brother is remarkable.
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Reply #59 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 8:02am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:56am:
I have heard that cigarettes is the hardest habit to give up.


I think if you really want to give them up, it's fairly easy ....... it's when you try to give them up for other reasons that it gets difficult.


They were always known as a "working man's pleasure' when they were dirt cheap and there were no restrictions on where you could smoke.





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