Oh well.
That's what you get for invading it in the first place.

But if the USA took the initiative,
it would be like 'going back in time'
and both China & Russia would have an excuse to attack the USA.

The real problem that started the whole 'problem'
is Russia, when it raised its ugly head as the Soviet Union.

You gotta understand that 'Politics' is trying to find an 'eternal' connection 'around' this planet.
So is every other Industry and Race.
"So see in 'every direction'"

By right, the Ring of Politics is from North America, down through Oceania, into Sahul (Australia), then back up to Europe.
But because Australia has been somewhat 'nothing' for so long, but a tiny little 'holiday' camp for Convicts.
The Soviet Union rose up into existence instead.
Don't laugh.
The idea that the World was going to have an 'All-White' Northern Hemisphere via the USSR/USA convergence was a very real thing.
As General Macarthur quoted in the Korean War
"We are here to kick the Yellow Mongols out of Asia"
(and send them where? Australia?)
Yin/Yang was very much perceived as the 'simple answer' for the simpletons who see life as either 'just' Black or White.
Crazy huh? 
But we all know it didn't go that way.
The USSR, after turning China into Communism, failed and turned into Capitalism. It slapped China on the back and said "Join me" and then turned and said "Sorry, I'll take the USA way".
Now Europe, headed by the Ukraine is putting pressure on Russia to become more 'Pro-European'.
"Are you with us or against us?"
Poor Russia, nothing but a Mafia, Gangster run nation of a Military force that is half of what it used to be and semi-rusted away - is now stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If Russia turns its back on China again - China will invade it and take Siberia.
If that happens...
Russia will suddenly call to the USA for help.
USA will be hesitant to get involved, but this is where North Korea (like a son waiting to avenge his raped mother of the Korean War) will bring the USA into the fray.
China would much rather go to war against a crumbling Russia, than the USA ...especially when the majority of its Military are 'ground troops'.

The Yin/Yang 'all white' Northern Hemisphere 'belief' has 'failed'.
Thankfully because the 'connection' has been given a pass to continue here in Australia ...for want of the whole world being destroyed by the 'blackmail' of all out Thermonuclear War - which would have been the case during the very powerful USSR years.

If China invades Russia and takes Siberia, thus giving the 'Yellow' Mongols an access of existence to share the North. The South East Nations of Vietnam, Burma, etc will swipe southern lands from China. Just yesterday, Vietnam has urged their fellow Southern Asia nations to 'Arm Up' against China ...just in case.

So no. North Korea won't 'start' anything.
They are like that little coward in the Pub who waits for his big mate to start the fight and then rushes in to lay the boot in from behind.

The USSR was a great nation. But it was just in the wrong place.
Now the heat is on Australia to stop being the lazy nation that just blames the UK or whoever for 'being chained' from taking more Global Responsibility.

So you see. It's really about the 'Big Picture'. Sure it sounds insane, but it has been an 'insane world' for quite awhile. It's all about every race and 'culture' having a sense of 'equality'.

War will soon start, I reckon next year. It's been practically 100 years since WW1. The world has to 'turn' again.

The 'All-white' Northern Hemisphere attempt, via the USSR has FAILED. Now the 'Yellow Mongols', who now get to stay in Asia - will get revenge for nearly being kicked out.

Get ready to rumble.

Hence why even the UK has sent three 'Super Carriers' into the China Sea.

Sorry Australia. But when Russia is 'gone' as a Super Power, the World will be looking in this direction of the world. Looks like the 'Holiday' is over. The UK (Parents) are about to kick you out of their house to 'grow up' and find yourself in the World, wether you like it or not.

Things will suddenly go 'crazy' in Australia ...if they aren't already. 

Jasin wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 10:04am:


No one invaded it.

Jasin wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:



You mean when North Korea invaded South Korea and the UN and USA helped South Korea?

I wonder how the reunification will go after someone sends him to his ancestors.

Sky News 9th August 17

US President Donald Trump says North Korea 'will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen' if it threatened the United States again.

'North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen,' Trump told reporters at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Mr Trump's comments come amid reports North Korea has successfully made a nuclear warhead that can fit inside its intercontinental ballistic missiles.

If correct, it would be a considerable development in the rogue state's drive to weaponise nuclear weapons - and a significant step on the path to becoming a fully fledged nuclear power, the Washington Post says.


*** If I were Jong un I wouldn't take that as an idle threat because IT AIN'T!

Turnbull would be a massive hypocrite to condemn North Korea.



Calls for Australia to reverse plans to boycott nuclear weapons talks

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/calls-for-australia-to-rev...

Fuzzball wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 10:17am:


Indeed.

His old man gave him his first 14 million, you know.

capitosinora wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 11:22am:


oh wow... 

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 10:57am:



FO you little turd.....

Francis wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 11:43am:


Correct.

capitosinora wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 11:46am:


it means that you are just too stupid to engage..

now there's a good boy.. bugger off... 

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:


No on the contrary. It means that you are an ignorant and arrogant brainwashed, full of inferiority complex, liberal idiot.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:


3500kms. And depending on wind conditions could bite them in the arse. Or China's arse. Which would piss them of mightily.

lee wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:

If he is not stopped soon one will be pointed in our direction, he has already stated that, man your battle stations.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:03pm:



Yes The MOUTH that Roared.

cods wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 4:21pm:


Only if you are not a "watermelon" it seems.

North Korea likes Nukes....then get ready to meet Duke Nukem who will flatten your sh.tty little Country like the proverbial pancake if you attack Guam as referred to by your fat little President

Valkie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:26pm:


The problem is Seouls proximity to the DMZ and NK rockets and artillery.

I still reckon they should have started doing limited Tomohawke strikes to try and slow him a down.

162,742 people currently reside on Guam.

Hmmmm.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:40pm:



Hi Lisa,
I don't think he's silly enough to nuke Guam.

capitosinora wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:36pm:


Christ Almighty....you can't be serious!

North Korea STARTED THIS SHYTE.

Stop narrrating the story midstream. It's dishonest and wrong!

North Korea is a rogue nation holding the world to ransom. It's been like this for ages (esp since 2012).

Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:44pm:


I don't think he's silly either.

He's just freaking insane.

red baron wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:



Here are the plans of Trump:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/us-north-korea-war-signals/index.html

red baron wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:



You're conflating Jong Fatty with Hitler. Jong-Un isn't expansionist; he just wants to stay in power, screw his harem of women and make cheesy threats.

Hitler wanted to conquer the world.

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:

I agree.  I have no idea why we have not left the idiot to his own devices.

He's entitled to have nasty toys just like Trump is.

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:58pm:


No.

The concern is this :

BOTH = insane megalomaniacs who think they can hold the world to ransom.

Quote:


How is that Fat Kid holding the World to ransom?  Seems to me that it is the World (through sanctions) holding him to ransom.

Aussie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:07pm:


Stick to licking toads and sweating into your beaded seat cover 

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:




Ok so next time I want more food..I'll be sure to spend whatever money I have.....on nukes.

You really need to think more before posting.

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:


I don't think he's a psychopath,  just a product of his upbringing and he acts as he's expected to.

Don't forget, behind fatso operates the world's craziest most dysfunctional party machines and ultimately,  fat is just the figurehead of it.

Gordon wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:


Yes, good call, and also the military leadership.

Although I think Fat is psychopath. You have to be able to run a country like that. I think that's why the brother turned down the job in the first place.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:


China makes more of a killing exporting to the rest of the world.

NK serves only to be a buffer state between China and South Korea. NK's strategic importance is no longer as vital for China.

Since North Korea started it's shenanigans this year.
China has increased its shipments into North Korea by 40% when the spy satellites showed the proof.
China flatly denies it.
Because all Americans are dumb.

Then along comes Trump, hated and despised by the Media of his own country.
Suddenly China is like "He's a little bastard like us!"

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:22pm:


You're saying all North Korea wants is more food.

And that Fatty has no choice BUT to pursue a nuclear weapons program.

I'm saying ^^^^ that's bollocks.

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:33pm:


Oh this just gets even better.

Now you're saying that Fatty is pursuing a nuclear weapons program to strengthen his regime.

And he has no choice in the matter.

Now explain to me how anyone can strengthen their regime by starving it.



Oh and you typed something quite different to that inside MY own post too 

capitosinora wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:36pm:



Got a reference for that? I hope you don't consider the rest of what you wrote as proof.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:42pm:


He has a choice. Everyone has a choice. He chooses to dabble with nuclear weapons.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:42pm:


The Kim Regime, under former leader Kim Jong-Il institute the 'military first' policy in which all resources were first designate to the military.

As long as the military are well fed and paid, then they will be satisfied.

Now, the common people, however, are a different matter. Malnourishing people is a way to control them more easily with their bullshit propaganda of Juche. Sure, the elite of Pyongyang are doing fine, and are buying in to the whole thing; but so long as the majority of the people are malnourished, Kim can control his people.

One of the reasons why North Korea has lasted for as long as it has is because it's managed to balance all of these things. It is, in one sense, the most perfect totalitarian regime. There's a massive Cult of Personality followed by a military elite.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:29pm:


So, you disagree with how the Kim regime maintains power? You don't believe that the majority of his people are malnourished? They have several famines over the course of many years. China sends the regime food supplies (among other things).

Malnourishment is an important aspect in the Kim Dynasty maintaining control over their mind. Do you disagree?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/31/north-korea-warns-new-famine-as-kims-wei...

Auggie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:


The Mechanic will need to run that one past his Russian sources, Caesar.

He'll be back in due course.

I believe North Korea are s hitting themselves.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:
There's one big issue that will keep China out of it. It's economy relies on trade with the US and other countries allied to the US.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:
This has been going on long before Trump. North Korea was always next on the list after the yanks buttered up the Shia in Iraq and got in the good books of the Iranians.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:


I agree. It's also true that China is the solution to North Korea's problem.

The old Chinese regime propped up the Kim Dynasty because ideologically they were more similar to Mao than to Deng. The current regime though would most likely not get involved in another war if one were to occur.

As I've said before, the best solution is for China to annex North Korea.

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:45pm:


I think the whole Iran thing is driven in part due to Saudi Arabia and their wahhabhist ideology. They don't want a Shia state to be dominant in the Middle East.

The mistake that Iran made was pursuing nuclear weapons. At least Saudi Arabia cottoned on to this a long time ago.

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:


Indeed.

I said Donald will do nothing.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 9:10pm:


Donald is a just another bluffing real estate agent.

Valkie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 6:26pm:


A life long Labour supporter?

The reality of this is that any country with even short term foresight policies would opt for killing Kim Jong Un over military options any day. The problem being is who could they get to kill someone so well protected that you might need to see military action as a diversion whilst undertaking the assassination?