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Reply #105 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:12am
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:23am:
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:12am:
I agree, Donald Trump would be crazy to make his comments unless an understanding had been reached with China

Don't worry China is going gang busters with their capitalist enterprises

They want Jong un banging on with his Nuclear aspirations like they want a hole in the head

The secret agenda may be that Donald Trump will take care of North Korea whilst China takes a powder

Have you notice that China has been silent as a tomb through all this




China has over 200,000 troops on the border with NK.


They are there to invade if given the order.

Actually China might want this -
some extra free territory for China & with the blessing of the USA.

Everybody wins - even the NK people
as they live under a tyranny.


I do not think the Chinese even want to think about war in North Korea.  It is a very poor country, the agriculture infrastructure was largely destroyed during the last Korean war, and still not recovered after decades of sanctions.  There are alot of starving people who will turn into refugees.  If you think the Syrian migrant crisis in Europe is big, then this is another matter. 

We are looking at literally millions of refugees without food, or shelter.  The 200k or so troops on the boarder would be barely enough to keep order.  How would China hope to feed all these people?  And this is one end of the boarder.  On the other side, people will stream into South Korea - probably not across the land, but cross the sea to South Korea.  That is going to have an enormous economic and social impact on South Korea.  And Japan will not be spared either.  So all of sudden, you have China, Korea, Japan all going down at the same time.  The world economy will suffer, in particular Australia would be finished. 
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Re: North Korea threatens 'thousand time' revenge
Reply #106 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:15am
 
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:12am:
I agree, Donald Trump would be crazy to make his comments unless an understanding had been reached with China

Don't worry China is going gang busters with their capitalist enterprises

They want Jong un banging on with his Nuclear aspirations like they want a hole in the head

The secret agenda may be that Donald Trump will take care of North Korea whilst China takes a powder

Have you notice that China has been silent as a tomb through all this


On the contrary, China will want a North Korea there to act as buffer to USA.  If North Korea goes down, and South Korea takes over, US will build a military base in North Korea in no time.
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Reply #107 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:57am
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:23am:
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:12am:
I agree, Donald Trump would be crazy to make his comments unless an understanding had been reached with China

Don't worry China is going gang busters with their capitalist enterprises

They want Jong un banging on with his Nuclear aspirations like they want a hole in the head

The secret agenda may be that Donald Trump will take care of North Korea whilst China takes a powder

Have you notice that China has been silent as a tomb through all this




China has over 200,000 troops on the border with NK.


They are there to invade if given the order.

Actually China might want this -
some extra free territory for China & with the blessing of the USA.

Everybody wins - even the NK people
as they live under a tyranny.


Correct, everyone wins.

China is paradise compared with North Korea.
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Re: North Korea threatens 'thousand time' revenge
Reply #108 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 12:03pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 10:41pm:
Valkie wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 6:26pm:
Surely tgere is someone, anyone woh could take this lunatic out?

Just think of how many lives it woukd save if every time one of tgese despots was quickly and effectivly removed from the face of the earth.

It cant be all tgat hard surely?

Think of the problems we could have averted if someone took out howard and Turnbull.




A life long Labour supporter?

The reality of this is that any country with even short term foresight policies would opt for killing Kim Jong Un over military options any day. The problem being is who could they get to kill someone so well protected that you might need to see military action as a diversion whilst undertaking the assassination?


Ah.. so solly.. Great Leader die when missile test go wrong.... all engineers now refuse hot chai until absolved from blame... fortunate no other person killed... but Glorious Leader lamented deeply... never see his like again...
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Reply #109 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 12:48pm
 
Jong un reminds me of a kid prodding a tiger through some bars until the tiger is roused to such fury that it leaps over the bars and rips the kid to pieces
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Reply #110 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
Jong un reminds me of a kid prodding a tiger through some bars until the tiger is roused to such fury that it leaps over the bars and rips the kid to pieces


A better analogue would be this.  After Jong Un saw Saddam and Gadafi got eaten alive by the tiger after they try to fend off the tiger with a stick.  He decided in order to survive, he needs a really big gun. 
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Reply #111 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:37pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:12am:
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:23am:
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:12am:
I agree, Donald Trump would be crazy to make his comments unless an understanding had been reached with China

Don't worry China is going gang busters with their capitalist enterprises

They want Jong un banging on with his Nuclear aspirations like they want a hole in the head

The secret agenda may be that Donald Trump will take care of North Korea whilst China takes a powder

Have you notice that China has been silent as a tomb through all this




China has over 200,000 troops on the border with NK.


They are there to invade if given the order.

Actually China might want this -
some extra free territory for China & with the blessing of the USA.

Everybody wins - even the NK people
as they live under a tyranny.


I do not think the Chinese even want to think about war in North Korea.  It is a very poor country, the agriculture infrastructure was largely destroyed during the last Korean war, and still not recovered after decades of sanctions.  There are alot of starving people who will turn into refugees.  If you think the Syrian migrant crisis in Europe is big, then this is another matter. 

We are looking at literally millions of refugees without food, or shelter.  The 200k or so troops on the boarder would be barely enough to keep order.  How would China hope to feed all these people?  And this is one end of the boarder.  On the other side, people will stream into South Korea - probably not across the land, but cross the sea to South Korea.  That is going to have an enormous economic and social impact on South Korea.  And Japan will not be spared either.  So all of sudden, you have China, Korea, Japan all going down at the same time.  The world economy will suffer, in particular Australia would be finished. 



You're wrong.
The population of NK is a drop in the bucket compared to
the population of China.

China would love to have some more territory.
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Re: North Korea threatens 'thousand time' revenge
Reply #112 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:10pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:37pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:12am:
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:23am:
red baron wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:12am:
I agree, Donald Trump would be crazy to make his comments unless an understanding had been reached with China

Don't worry China is going gang busters with their capitalist enterprises

They want Jong un banging on with his Nuclear aspirations like they want a hole in the head

The secret agenda may be that Donald Trump will take care of North Korea whilst China takes a powder

Have you notice that China has been silent as a tomb through all this




China has over 200,000 troops on the border with NK.


They are there to invade if given the order.

Actually China might want this -
some extra free territory for China & with the blessing of the USA.

Everybody wins - even the NK people
as they live under a tyranny.


I do not think the Chinese even want to think about war in North Korea.  It is a very poor country, the agriculture infrastructure was largely destroyed during the last Korean war, and still not recovered after decades of sanctions.  There are alot of starving people who will turn into refugees.  If you think the Syrian migrant crisis in Europe is big, then this is another matter. 

We are looking at literally millions of refugees without food, or shelter.  The 200k or so troops on the boarder would be barely enough to keep order.  How would China hope to feed all these people?  And this is one end of the boarder.  On the other side, people will stream into South Korea - probably not across the land, but cross the sea to South Korea.  That is going to have an enormous economic and social impact on South Korea.  And Japan will not be spared either.  So all of sudden, you have China, Korea, Japan all going down at the same time.  The world economy will suffer, in particular Australia would be finished. 



You're wrong.
The population of NK is a drop in the bucket compared to
the population of China.

China would love to have some more territory.


I believe what you are saying is not realistic. 

The population of NK is still 25 million +.  And that means 25 million hungry and poor to feed.  China is a third world country, significant amount of its population are still under poverty.   Pollution, land erosion, deficit in agriculture are real problems.  And not to mention, there is very limited infrastructure in North Korea.

Second, you failed to understand that there is significant differences between Chinese and Korean.  The Chinese had throughout history tried to invade and occupy Korea, but all failed. 

Third, what about South Korea.  Despite the differences, South Korea still consider North Koreans Koreans.  And hope one day that their country will be whole again.   They are NOT going to sit back, and let other foreign powers - USA + China to make a deal behind their back, and give North Korea to China.  This is just simple absurd.

Fourthly, it is the US policy to contain China.  Giving away North Korea will have serious - very serious implications on the securities for both Japan and South Korea.   Even now, North Korea have the capability to bomb Guam.  Imagine if the Chinese takes over North Korea, what can they do to Guam?

Lets just say, it wont happen. 
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Reply #113 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:10pm:
I believe what you are saying is not realistic. 

The population of NK is still 25 million +.  And that means 25 million hungry and poor to feed.  China is a third world country, significant amount of its population are still under poverty.   Pollution, land erosion, deficit in agriculture are real problems.  And not to mention, there is very limited infrastructure in North Korea.

Second, you failed to understand that there is significant differences between Chinese and Korean.  The Chinese had throughout history tried to invade and occupy Korea, but all failed. 

Third, what about South Korea.  Despite the differences, South Korea still consider North Koreans Koreans.  And hope one day that their country will be whole again.   They are NOT going to sit back, and let other foreign powers - USA + China to make a deal behind their back, and give North Korea to China.  This is just simple absurd.

Fourthly, it is the US policy to contain China.  Giving away North Korea will have serious - very serious implications on the securities for both Japan and South Korea.   Even now, North Korea have the capability to bomb Guam.  Imagine if the Chinese takes over North Korea, what can they do to Guam?

Lets just say, it wont happen. 




We'll see who's right very soon.

I am sure China will invade NK.

I think it's a deal that Trump has done behind closed doors.
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Reply #114 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:26pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:10pm:
I believe what you are saying is not realistic. 

The population of NK is still 25 million +.  And that means 25 million hungry and poor to feed.  China is a third world country, significant amount of its population are still under poverty.   Pollution, land erosion, deficit in agriculture are real problems.  And not to mention, there is very limited infrastructure in North Korea.

Second, you failed to understand that there is significant differences between Chinese and Korean.  The Chinese had throughout history tried to invade and occupy Korea, but all failed. 

Third, what about South Korea.  Despite the differences, South Korea still consider North Koreans Koreans.  And hope one day that their country will be whole again.   They are NOT going to sit back, and let other foreign powers - USA + China to make a deal behind their back, and give North Korea to China.  This is just simple absurd.

Fourthly, it is the US policy to contain China.  Giving away North Korea will have serious - very serious implications on the securities for both Japan and South Korea.   Even now, North Korea have the capability to bomb Guam.  Imagine if the Chinese takes over North Korea, what can they do to Guam?

Lets just say, it wont happen. 




We'll see who's right very soon.

I am sure China will invade NK.

I think it's a deal that Trump has done behind closed doors.



A deal Trump has done with China?

What deal? And what for?
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Reply #115 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:28pm
 
capitosinora wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:41pm:
AugCaesarustus wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
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Kim Jong Fatty, schooling the Generals.

It's all part of the Cult of Personality: Kim is most intelligent and greatest human being on earth.

You know North Koreans believe that Kim Il-Sung, the founder of North Korea, could walk on water.



Donald Fatty, schooling the Generals.

It's all part of the Cult of Personality: Donald is most intelligent and greatest human being on earth.

You know Americans believe that Trump senior, the founder of USA, could walk on water.
This has been going on long before Trump. North Korea was always next on the list after the yanks buttered up the Shia in Iraq and got in the good books of the Iranians.


Unless Korea is a 13 year old girl, it's not on Trump's list.

Donald will do nothing about Kim - he's too much of a coward.

The US military establishment is a lot more powerful than Trump.


Indeed.

I said Donald will do nothing.


Donald is a just another bluffing real estate agent.

totally agree with that statement
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Reply #116 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
A deal Trump has done with China?

What deal? And what for?




The deal:

The USA gets rid of the threat of North Korea.

China gets some new territory.
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Reply #117 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:31pm
 
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:29pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
A deal Trump has done with China?

What deal? And what for?




The deal:

The USA gets rid of the threat of North Korea.

China gets some new territory.


Why would China want that? NK serves as a perfect buffer between China and the US. The Chinese like that just fine.

Not to mention, Tickle is dead right in everything she has said.
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Reply #118 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:29pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
A deal Trump has done with China?

What deal? And what for?




The deal:

The USA gets rid of the threat of North Korea.

China gets some new territory.


Why would China want that? NK serves as a perfect buffer between China and the US. The Chinese like that just fine.

Not to mention, Tickle is dead right in everything she has said.

Bobby is right- because he is plausable and you are clueless- question asked and answered
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Reply #119 - Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:37pm
 
Agnes wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Sir Bobby wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:29pm:
mothra wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
A deal Trump has done with China?

What deal? And what for?




The deal:

The USA gets rid of the threat of North Korea.

China gets some new territory.



Why would China want that? NK serves as a perfect buffer between China and the US. The Chinese like that just fine.

Not to mention, Tickle is dead right in everything she has said.

Bobby is right- because he is plausable and you are clueless- question asked and answered



Thanks Agnes,
I know I'm right.
It's all been worked out behind the scenes.
It's the only thing that makes sense.
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