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Reply #30 - Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.
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Reply #31 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:01am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.


The law, as it stands regarding Visas, is that if you commit an offence punishable by more than 12 months jail you will have your Visa revoked and you will be deported. In other words, behave or you'll be kicked out. It doesn't get any simpler than that, yet Triggs is clearly trying to overstep the bounds of her authority out of what can only be sheer spite.
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Reply #32 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:10am
 
Its time wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
She will be sorely missed , a fantastic ambassador for HR 



she was the wrong sort of person for this gig.

ever noticed how psychiatrists all become a bit nutty from hanging out with nutty people.
ever noticed how cops start off all smiling and enthusiastic but by 50 , they look beaten into the ground, irritable and have a pissed off vibe.
ever notice how people like Leo Di Caprio in the wolf of wall street, just get amped up by their peers to become more and more unhinged.


you will "become" the personality of the people you interact with unless you take massive action to nurture yourself, have the right inputs, hang out with the right people and absorb their "frame".


Now , triggs or any HRC staffer id surrounded by

victims
failures
whining and complaining
people who have had mediocre lives
people who are living in extreme scarcity and have the "frame" of humiliation, shame, misery, hopelessness, apathy, despair, grief, fear  and withdrawal.

Only a very strong noble rightard can work with these types of very very negative influences and remain "on point".  and even then , the noble rightard would have to be hitting the gym, eating well, he would need an awesome partner to nourish and recharge him. he would need passions and hobbies that give him joy.

A leftie (like triggs) with leftie mates will have none of these safety mechanisms. she may well be taking this frame home with her, watching tha ABC or SBS , talking to other lefties who are in a downward spiral.
she needs to stop the carnage and get out and try and get back on the narrow road to success.

gillian should hit the gym, eat well, turn off the ABC, get her phone and delete every handwringer and leftie contact.
she needs to find joy by becoming strong and powerful and influential and hanging out with people who are moving up in the world. she could go to a Tony Robbins seminar, join an entrepreneurs group, take up hunting fishing surfing skiing. she needs to drastically change her physiology to change her psychology.

good luck gillian, you have a lot of work in front of you to detox.
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Reply #33 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:28am
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:21pm:
We have the right to allow who we want and stop those we dont want.


That right has never been allowed to be exercised by the public having a credible Opposition Party.



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Reply #34 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:48am
 
salad in wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:00pm:
Gillian Triggs no less. Wow.



let her pay for the 'human rights' of other people.
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Reply #35 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:51am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 8:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
Trigg had a mental problem.


A.K.A. Liberal Party


You cannot possibly agree with a woman who tried to block the deportation of a man who killed his wife and then tried to compensate him with taxpayer funds. Surely you're not so stupid?



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and ALL OUR money she wanted to give away .
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Reply #36 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 8:14am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:01am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.


The law, as it stands regarding Visas, is that if you commit an offence punishable by more than 12 months jail you will have your Visa revoked and you will be deported. In other words, behave or you'll be kicked out. It doesn't get any simpler than that, yet Triggs is clearly trying to overstep the bounds of her authority out of what can only be sheer spite.


except that there are more laws at play than just those regarding visa's.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #37 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:21am
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:14pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
“Unlike almost every other comparable country Australia has no bill of rights against which government policies can be benchmarked,” Triggs said.


That's right because Australia's political system is based on the tradition of 'parliamentary supremacy', which means that the Parliament is supreme above anything else. The Judiciary cannot dictate to the Parliament what it can and can't do.

mothra wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
“As there is no bill of rights, the courts are very very hamstrung in standing up for human rights.”


The last thing we want is the High Court ruling on human rights. They've already whipped one right out of thin air; if we have a bill of rights, then they'll go out of control. Just look at the US Supreme Court.




So privileges and obligations it is then.


It helps that people are too fkken stupid to realise they are being fkked by the government, so easy peasy.




Oh yes, BigOl, because I'm feeling so oppressed by the Ausralian Government.....

Oh my.....



You wouldn't know a basic right if it was jammed up your back passage sideways, like most Australians, you are blissfully ignorant and damn happy to be that way.

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Reply #38 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:35am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:01am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.


The law, as it stands regarding Visas, is that if you commit an offence punishable by more than 12 months jail you will have your Visa revoked and you will be deported. In other words, behave or you'll be kicked out. It doesn't get any simpler than that, yet Triggs is clearly trying to overstep the bounds of her authority out of what can only be sheer spite.


As the law stands he was a refugee and cannot be sent back to his home country....But don't let facts get in the way of your rant???

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Reply #39 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:52am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:35am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:01am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.


The law, as it stands regarding Visas, is that if you commit an offence punishable by more than 12 months jail you will have your Visa revoked and you will be deported. In other words, behave or you'll be kicked out. It doesn't get any simpler than that, yet Triggs is clearly trying to overstep the bounds of her authority out of what can only be sheer spite.


As the law stands he was a refugee and cannot be sent back to his home country....But don't let facts get in the way of your rant???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Send him to ANY other country and get rid of him, refugee or not he is a sub standard human and not deserving or our endless welfare.  Angry Angry


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Reply #40 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 8:01pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Gillian Triggs: Australian government 'ideologically opposed to human rights'


In her last week as human rights commissioner, Triggs says human rights are ‘regressing on almost every front’

Gillian Triggs has accused the Australian government of being “ideologically opposed to human rights”, saying Australia’s human rights are “regressing on almost every front”.

Triggs has used the last week of her tenure as human rights commissioner to say human rights in Australia were going backwards for almost all relevant groups. “Whether it’s women, Indigenous, homeless and most of course asylum seekers and refugees,” she told ABC Radio National on Wednesday morning.

Triggs said the Coalition government held some responsibility for the regression. “I think it’s partly because we have a government that is ideologically opposed to human rights,” she said.

“Mr Abbott, when he campaigned for government, one of those campaign platforms was the elimination of the Australian Human Rights Commission. So in that sense it was part of the platform and it’s been maintained pretty well ever since.”

Triggs also blamed the slipping of human rights in Australia on the lack of a legal protection of rights – a bill of rights – that would ensure governments could not act counter to human rights.

“Unlike almost every other comparable country Australia has no bill of rights against which government policies can be benchmarked,” Triggs said.

“As there is no bill of rights, the courts are very very hamstrung in standing up for human rights.”

She said the fear of terrorism was being exploited to centralise government power “giving ministers really unprecedented power without the supervision of the court.”

She said Australia had produced more counterterrorism legislation than North America and Europe, and since there was no bill of rights in Australia, those measures were not necessarily consistent with fundamental human rights.

Her time in the role was marked by fierce clashes with the Coalition government. She dismissed claims that she acted in a partisan way, instead blaming the government for framing issues that way.

“Firstly I categorically reject any suggestion that we acted in a political way,” she said.

“There is no doubt at all however that rather than take on the substantive factual and legal points that we were making the government decided it was better to attack us on political grounds,” she said.

“I do of course accept that that was the perception created not only by government members but by a major newspaper in Australia.”

She said she had no regrets and was very proud of what the Human Rights Commission achieved under her leadership, with a “miniscule” budget of just $14m.

“I believe we have done a terrific job. We have stuck to the facts. We know the facts are right. We know the law is right. We are very proud that. I think there are no regrets and I very much hope that in the future the commission can continue to be fearless in standing up for the rights of Australians.”


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/26/gillian-triggs-australian...



She lives in the same Denial you do, mothra.

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Reply #41 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:02pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Auggie wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:18pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:14pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 7:12pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
“Unlike almost every other comparable country Australia has no bill of rights against which government policies can be benchmarked,” Triggs said.


That's right because Australia's political system is based on the tradition of 'parliamentary supremacy', which means that the Parliament is supreme above anything else. The Judiciary cannot dictate to the Parliament what it can and can't do.

mothra wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
“As there is no bill of rights, the courts are very very hamstrung in standing up for human rights.”


The last thing we want is the High Court ruling on human rights. They've already whipped one right out of thin air; if we have a bill of rights, then they'll go out of control. Just look at the US Supreme Court.




So privileges and obligations it is then.


It helps that people are too fkken stupid to realise they are being fkked by the government, so easy peasy.




Oh yes, BigOl, because I'm feeling so oppressed by the Ausralian Government.....

Oh my.....



You wouldn't know a basic right if it was jammed up your back passage sideways, like most Australians, you are blissfully ignorant and damn happy to be that way.



Ah no... I know exactly what rights are. I live them everyday.
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Reply #42 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:14pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 9:35am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 27th, 2017 at 7:01am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:28pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
And what about all of the foreign bike gang members this government has tried to deport due to their crimes, only for Triggs to attempt to block them?


triggs job is to uphold the human rights as they stand under Australian law. She doesn't make the laws. If the government has a problem with the legislation it should make it's case in parliament and change the laws rather than try to use the media to blame Triggs for their inadequacies.


The law, as it stands regarding Visas, is that if you commit an offence punishable by more than 12 months jail you will have your Visa revoked and you will be deported. In other words, behave or you'll be kicked out. It doesn't get any simpler than that, yet Triggs is clearly trying to overstep the bounds of her authority out of what can only be sheer spite.


As the law stands he was a refugee and cannot be sent back to his home country....But don't let facts get in the way of your rant???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nor can he be allowed to roam freely in the community due to his Visa having been revoked due to his criminal history, hence his detention. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant???
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Reply #43 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:21pm
 
Criminals aren't allowed free access to Australian society; refugee or not. What's the problem, leftards?
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Reply #44 - Jul 29th, 2017 at 9:02am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Criminals aren't allowed free access to Australian society; refugee or not. What's the problem, leftards?



criminals are released from jail after serving their sentence each and every single day ....
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