Dnarever wrote on Jul 30
th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
I am supportive of the wishes of feminism but hugely disappointed by their failure.
They have made things better for a very small minority of Women while disadvantaging the vast majority. While this has never been their intention it is never the less a fact. The corporate world managed to hijack the agenda.
Women on the whole no longer have the option to raise their children - it has become economically unfeasible for the vast majority. Families are much worse off.
While women have seemed to get more equal pay rates it has been as much a case of the male rate coming down to meet the female level. In the terms of a family the corporate world have ended up with two employees for the effective price of one.
There was a time when an average male wage was enough to pay the bills - that is mostly no longer true, two wages are required to achieve the same result.
One of the bigger issues is the number of professional women who will never have a child. The cost of success in the feminist business world. Just another sad undesired result.
Unfortunately the negative results have far outweighed any positives, the sad result of a good idea with the best intentions.
That's an excellent set of points. However, I would add that equal opportunity is an essential right for everybody. I'm not saying you don't believe that, I'm saying that I (and the majority of people) do believe that.
I have a few things that anyone in this thread may want to consider. I apologise, i'm not allowed to post links to support my arguments because I'm a newbie.
1. Since the rise of feminism, women's happiness index (over decades, many women interviewed) has plummeted. The study was extensive. In fact, the scientific study concluded that men were better off than women with the rise of feminism! Men's happiness had not changed while women's happiness dropped significantly.
2. Wages have stagnated in line with the rise of feminism. As the labour force expanded considerably, so did the supply. Increased supply and stagnant demand drives down wages (as can be seen by studying wage trends).
3. According to wikipedia, less than 20% of women are feminists, yet, 85% of people believe in equal opportunity (ie. feminism does not correlate to equal opportunity in the slightest).
4. Among flawed comments from the original author, the original author said feminism doesn't hate men. How can the original author speak on behalf of all feminists? There are many videos and articles that are vitriolic towards men ("men" collectively, no caveats). In this instance, I would say that I see significant hostility from many feminists toward males.
If you want an insight to feminism, you should listen to the factual feminist. She tells it as it is. If you're looking for someone to bust the many, many myths from feminsts, she is your champion. She's been a feminist for many years and she researches thoroughly. She dispells the "wage-gap" and violence myths (among a long list of others).
For another insightful perspective of feminsm, watch videos by Jordan Peterson. He's a Canadian clinical psychologist from University of Toronto. He has decades of experience and loads of videos on youtube. Look for SJW and feminism along with his name. He has a deep knowlege (eg. the most egalitarian countries have a bigger spread in career choices that men and women choose, which is backed by an indepth study across 35 countries).
There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of women throughout the western world (as stated by wikipedia) are not feminist. If you can defend feminism (like the original author did) after listening to the factual feminist and Jordan Peterson, then I take my hat off to you. The factual feminist wrote a book called "Who Stole Feminism?". At one point she even said she'd seriously thought about stopping using the term "feminism".
Conversely, if you're a guy and you express negative comments toward women because of feminism, keep in mind that about 4 in 5 women (or in Germany and England, where the countries' leaders are female, 9 in 10 women) are not feminists. That's good odds that a woman you are talking to rejects the ideology. If in doubt, don't be afraid to ask them.