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Jul 25th, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
No, the internet is not actually stealing kids’ innocence


The news is constantly awash with stories reporting on – and arguably amplifying – public anxieties over youth and media. The anxieties concern violence and video games, gaming addiction, internet and mental health, and teen suicide.

For example, child psychologist Michael Carr-Gregg recently linked the sexualisation of children and their easy access to online pornography to an increase in sexual and indecent assault allegations at school.

His argument reprised some familiar problems that are common in media panic stories about the supposed loss of childhood innocence.

Problems with the evidence

There are four common steps that are neatly illustrated by Carr-Gregg’s argument: the claim of a media cause, an outcome harmful to youth, evidence that these are causally linked, and a mediating factor that can make or break the causal link.

1. Children are increasingly immersed in pervasive and damaging messages from the media (online, social and mainstream) that objectify women and legitimate sexual assault. The existence of such messages is not in doubt. But children’s immersion in them and their implied lack of critical media literacy is.

2. Sexual assaults among school students are increasing. The increased reporting of such assaults is also not in doubt. However, it’s unclear whether this is a genuine increase in assaults or an increase in their reporting due to greater awareness.

3. Exposure to pornography is causally responsible for the increase in sexual assaults among children. This is often the crucial missing link in such media accounts; there is simply no evidence cited to support this claim.

4. Parents (and society) are unaware of and should be better prepared for the pervasive influence of sexualised media on their children. Again this is likely exaggerated, although not greatly in doubt. But whether it makes a difference to children’s vulnerability to damaging messages or to actual assault has not been established.

But, for each step, the evidence for media harm is insufficient.

Research on children’s exposure to pornography

The conclusions of a recent detailed 20-year review of the research on children’s exposure to pornography were:

Some adolescents – more often boys, “sensation seekers” and those with troubled family relations – tend to use pornography. This in turn is weakly linked to gender-stereotypical sexual beliefs that can be pejorative to women.

There is a link between exposure to pornography and sexually aggressive behaviours in boys. But, for girls, pornography use is related to experiences of sexual victimisation.

However, because of various “methodological and theoretical shortcomings”, the claim of causality cannot be considered conclusive.

These findings echo those from a recent meta-analysis, which found that sexting behaviour was positively related to sexual activity, unprotected sex and one’s number of sexual partners. However, the relationship was weak to moderate.

In general, research is clearer that online pornography can be problematic as an experience for adolescents rather than as a cause of sexually violent behaviour.

For instance, a 2016 UK study found that children report a range of negative emotions after watching pornography. On first exposure, children express shock, upset and confusion. They seem to become desensitised to the content over time.

Also complicating matters is the importance of allowing for adolescents’ right to express and explore their sexuality both online and offline, as well as the finding that one reason they seek out pornography is that society provides little else in terms of needed materials for sexual education. But some have made a great start.

What, then, should be done?

The evidence in support of effective public interventions is as limited as evidence of the harm these are designed to alleviate.

Still, the precautionary principle provides some legitimation for intervention – and there are solutions to be tried. For example:

In a recent report, my colleagues and I proposed a series of possible legislative and industry strategies. Several have potential to reduce harm without unduly restricting either adults’ or children’s online freedoms.

In another report, we focused on the importance of better digital literacy and sexual education in schools, as well as constructive awareness-raising and support for parents.

In the 2017 report by the House of Lords, the focus was on improving the co-ordination of strategies across society, along with learning from the evaluation of what works and, more radically, introducing ethics-by-design into the processes of content and technological production to improve children’s online experiences in the first place.

But if a mix of thoughtful strategies is to be implemented, tested, refined and co-ordinated, we need an open environment in which policy is led by evidence rather than media panic. We must also become critical readers of popular claims about media harm.

In terms of identifying causes, we should ask why the finger of blame is always pointed at the media rather than other likely causes (including violence against women, or problems linked to growing inequality or precarity).

In terms of identifying outcomes, are we so sure that problems among the young are really rising? Or that the internet can engender addiction in the sense that drugs or gambling can?
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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
While such doubts have validity, it would also seem implausible to claim that the unprecedented advent of internet and social media use on a mass scale in Western cultures has had no consequences for children, positive or negative. The challenge is to ensure these consequences benefit children and the wider society.



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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:19pm
 
Stranger Danger is a problem but also cybertheft and cyberterrorism are completely worth being concerned about.

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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:21pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:19pm:
Stranger Danger is a problem but also cybertheft and cyberterrorism are completely worth being concerned about.




Yes but they have always been a concern. It simply falls on parents to incorporate the internet as a new variable in educating their children to stay safe.

A lesson we all must learn ... better to be taught by mum and dad (or even at school) than learn the hard way.
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mothra wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:19pm:
Stranger Danger is a problem but also cybertheft and cyberterrorism are completely worth being concerned about.




Yes but they have always been a concern. It simply falls on parents to incorporate the internet as a new variable in educating their children to stay safe.

A lesson we all must learn ... better to be taught by mum and dad (or even at school) than learn the hard way.

Of course, but the world attacks not only in direct form but also in indirect form.

What I mean to say is I don't think we've quite identified how dangerous the internet can be but I take your point that very bad things have always existed.

Education: I suppose the lack of education is the real danger.

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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 4:40pm
 
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another. 

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?
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Reply #7 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:00pm
 
when you finish that  (most wont because their brains cant focus) try this
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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:15pm
 
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another. 

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Is someone targeting preteens with articles about anal?

Whom, Honky?

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Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:20pm
 
You can skip the playing dumb and just get to the point, thanks.
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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:43pm
 
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You can skip the playing dumb and just get to the point, thanks.


Is someone targeting preteens with articles about anal?

I'm curious.

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Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 5:49pm
 
So youve got nothing but playing dumb.

Sorry, not interested.
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... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another. 

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Yes, I've got a thought.

Is someone targeting preteens with articles about anal?
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Reply #13 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:01pm
 
Gee, i wonder what greggerys plan is.

Maybe it goes something like "it says TEEN vogue, not Pre teen vogue".  Its stretching the plausibility of plausible deniability, but thats what it is nonetheless.  Hes either ignorant or pretending he is of the fact young girls always like to yhink theyre more mature than their years.  If theyre preteen they go for teen things.  If theyre teens, they go for adult things. 

Then if hes done his homework, hell state that the average age of teen vogue is late 20s, and will imply this means its targetted at people in their late 20s, rather than use his brain and consider this average is made up of pre/teens and their mothers who buy it for them.  Roughly age 12 + age 45 and youve got an average in the late 20s.  This magazine is marketted for tweens and early teens, no doubt about it.

So then youd ask why the routine?  Why is he so interested in running interference for people who peddle this material to people below the age of consent?

Is it because hes a paedo?  Its certainly possible, the idea has been raised before, but i think its just that hes a nihilist.  He just doesnt care about anything, least of all future generations.  If any of you care, this influence should be raising your eyebrows.
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Gee, i wonder what greggerys plan is.

Maybe it goes something like "it says TEEN vogue, not Pre teen vogue".  Its stretching the plausibility of plausible deniability, but thats what it is nonetheless.  Hes either ignorant or pretending he is of the fact young girls always like to yhink theyre more mature than their years.  If theyre preteen they go for teen things.  If theyre teens, they go for adult things. 

Then if hes done his homework, hell state that the average age of teen vogue is late 20s, and will imply this means its targetted at people in their late 20s, rather than use his brain and consider this average is made up of pre/teens and their mothers who buy it for them.  Roughly age 12 + age 45 and youve got an average in the late 20s.  This magazine is marketted for tweens and early teens, no doubt about it.

So then youd ask why the routine?  Why is he so interested in running interference for people who peddle this material to people below the age of consent?

Is it because hes a paedo?  Its certainly possible, the idea has been raised before, but i think its just that hes a nihilist.  He just doesnt care about anything, least of all future generations.  If any of you care, this influence should be raising your eyebrows.


"Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?"

If you had taken the time to learn what the word "targeting" means (as well as taking the time to learn how to spell it), you wouldn't be in the mess you're in now.

I read my dad's Playboys when I was 10, but the magazine wasn't targeted at me.

Oh well, it's been a good lesson for you.

So, is someone targeting preteens with articles about anal?

You didn't say.

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Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?

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... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

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Reply #17 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Yes and so do you.  So does everyone.

So why the routine greggery? If it's your nihilism, just say so, otherwise it has to be the other option.
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... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Yes


Now you need to provide proof.

Good luck   Grin
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

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"Teen Vogue is a US magazine launched in 2003 as a sister publication to Vogue, targeted at teenage girls."

Dear oh dear.

Would you like to borrow Rhino's shovel, Wes?

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Agnes wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

Oh man, this is gonna be so good    Grin

Over to you, my boy ...

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Just ignore him.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:57pm:
"Teen Vogue is a US magazine launched in 2003 as a sister publication to Vogue, targeted at teenage girls."

Dear oh dear.

Would you like to borrow Rhino's shovel, Wes?

Grin

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Agnes wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

Oh man, this is gonna be so good    Grin

Over to you, my boy ...

  This could be a good thread because it is important but we see Pecca going into troll mode again


Wes wants "Thoughts on targetting (sic) pre/teens with articles about anal?"

Strangely, though, he can't provide any evidence of anyone  targeting pre/teens with articles about anal.

He tried to say Teen Vogue was, but he got shot down pretty quickly with that one.

"Teen Vogue is a US magazine launched in 2003 as a sister publication to Vogue, targeted at teenage girls."

And, why is he so obsessed with preteens and sex?  I'm curious.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
Gee, i wonder what greggerys plan is.

Maybe it goes something like "it says TEEN vogue, not Pre teen vogue".  Its stretching the plausibility of plausible deniability, but thats what it is nonetheless.  Hes either ignorant or pretending he is of the fact young girls always like to yhink theyre more mature than their years.  If theyre preteen they go for teen things.  If theyre teens, they go for adult things. 

Then if hes done his homework, hell state that the average age of teen vogue is late 20s, and will imply this means its targetted at people in their late 20s, rather than use his brain and consider this average is made up of pre/teens and their mothers who buy it for them.  Roughly age 12 + age 45 and youve got an average in the late 20s.  This magazine is marketted for tweens and early teens, no doubt about it.

So then youd ask why the routine?  Why is he so interested in running interference for people who peddle this material to people below the age of consent?

Is it because hes a paedo?  Its certainly possible, the idea has been raised before, but i think its just that hes a nihilist.  He just doesnt care about anything, least of all future generations.  If any of you care, this influence should be raising your eyebrows.


"Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?"

If you had taken the time to learn what the word "targeting" means (as well as taking the time to learn how to spell it), you wouldn't be in the mess you're in now.

I read my dad's Playboys when I was 10, but the magazine wasn't targeted at me.

Oh well, it's been a good lesson for you.

So, is someone targeting preteens with articles about anal?

You didn't say.

Grin



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Reply #25 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:58pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

Oh man, this is gonna be so good    Grin

Over to you, my boy ...

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Just ignore him. 


Considering you've just been monumentally owned, it's probably your best move.

Grin

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Reply #26 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Whats the difference between targeting and marketing to?



Do you believe that the magazine article you posted is targeted or marketed to preteens?

If so, the onus is on you to provide your proof.

Oh man, this is gonna be so good    Grin

Over to you, my boy ...

  This could be a good thread because it is important but we see Pecca going into troll mode again


Wes wants "Thoughts on targetting (sic) pre/teens with articles about anal?"

Strangely, though, he can't provide any evidence of anyone  targeting pre/teens with articles about anal.

He tried to say Teen Vogue was, but he got shot down pretty quickly with that one.

"Teen Vogue is a US magazine launched in 2003 as a sister publication to Vogue, targeted at teenage girls."

And, why is he so obsessed with preteens and sex?  I'm curious.

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"On July 7, 2017, the magazine published a column titled, "Anal Sex: What You Need to Know" which author Gigi Engle described as "anal 101, for teens, beginners and all inquisitive folk."

"The column drew criticism from some parents for what they viewed as content inappropriate to the target audience of teenage girls."


Oh dear.  Poor Honky.

Is Honky part of their target audience?

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"Teen Vogue’s Political Coverage Isn’t Surprising

"The publication’s recent shift toward social issues, identity, and activism is giving its readers what they want."


Honky's preteens can't get enough of those stories on social issues, identity, and activism.

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Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s and no doubt the editors would know little sister gets her mitts on a copy when big sis isn't looking.

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Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s



Indeed.

If only Honky knew what "targeting" meant.

Learning how to spell it wouldn't hurt, either.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s



Indeed.

If only Honky knew what "targeting" meant.

Learning how to spell it wouldn't hurt, either.



I have problems with the arse reaming article as their readership covers ages where it's really less than suitable.
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Reply #32 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s



Indeed.

If only Honky knew what "targeting" meant.

Learning how to spell it wouldn't hurt, either.



I have problems with the arse reaming article as their readership covers ages where it's really less than suitable.


'Readership' isn't the same as 'targeted audience'.

That's where Honky went so terribly wrong.

And yes, if preteens are reading the article, I share your concerns.

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Reply #33 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s



Indeed.

If only Honky knew what "targeting" meant.

Learning how to spell it wouldn't hurt, either.



I have problems with the arse reaming article as their readership covers ages where it's really less than suitable.


'Readership' isn't the same as 'targeted audience'.

That's where Honky went so terribly wrong.

And yes, if preteens are reading the article, I share your concerns.



What about 13 year olds?  A ok - Thats the distinction youve laboured for so long.
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... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:13pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
Teen Vogue is designed and targeted at 13 - 17s



Indeed.

If only Honky knew what "targeting" meant.

Learning how to spell it wouldn't hurt, either.



I have problems with the arse reaming article as their readership covers ages where it's really less than suitable.


'Readership' isn't the same as 'targeted audience'.

That's where Honky went so terribly wrong.

And yes, if preteens are reading the article, I share your concerns.



What about 13 year olds?  A ok?


Ah.

So, you meant 'young teens', not 'preteens'.

We're getting somewhere.



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Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick front bottom you are.
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Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick nice person you are.


The fact that you knowingly lied shows just how much of a worthless troll you are.

Nobody is targeting preteens with articles about anal sex.

You knew that, I knew that, and everyone else knew that, but you chose to lie anyway.

You are beneath contempt.

Lift your game, boy.


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Nobody cares what you think.

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Reply #38 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:37pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick nice person you are.


The fact that you knowingly lied shows just how much of a worthless troll you are.

Nobody is targeting preteens with articles about anal sex.

You knew that, I knew that, and everyone else knew that, but you chose to lie anyway.

You are beneath contempt.

Lift your game, boy.


Get off it Greg, 1 year difference? I know you are a pedant but to turn that into an attack and call someone sick is a bit rich and you probably shouldn't be calling others out on being a fibber.

Personally, I think it's up to the parents to vet what their kids read or not, it's not my place to tell them what to do. Hell, some even get them to read the Koran and the Bible at much younger ages.

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Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick nice person you are.


The fact that you knowingly lied shows just how much of a worthless troll you are.

Nobody is targeting preteens with articles about anal sex.

You knew that, I knew that, and everyone else knew that, but you chose to lie anyway.

You are beneath contempt.

Lift your game, boy.


Get off it Greg, 1 year difference? I know you are a pedant but to turn that into an attack and call someone sick is a bit rich and you probably shouldn't be calling others out on being a fibber.


Get your hand off it.

I didn't call him sick.

However, he suggested that I'm a paedophile.

Honky lied, and you know it.

Everyone on this forum knows it.

Why do you defend scum like him?
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Nobody cares what you think.



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Reply #41 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick nice person you are.


The fact that you knowingly lied shows just how much of a worthless troll you are.

Nobody is targeting preteens with articles about anal sex.

You knew that, I knew that, and everyone else knew that, but you chose to lie anyway.

You are beneath contempt.

Lift your game, boy.


Get off it Greg, 1 year difference? I know you are a pedant but to turn that into an attack and call someone sick is a bit rich and you probably shouldn't be calling others out on being a fibber.


Get your hand off it, you clueless idiot.

I didn't call him sick.

However, he suggested that I'm a paedophile.

Honky lied, and you know it.

Everyone on this forum knows it.

Why do you defend scum like him?


Terribly sorry, "beneath contempt". 12/13 what a difference a day makes, eh? The fact is girls younger than 13 read it. I couldn't give a stuff if their parents let them, but to pay out on someone for their concern and make it about them out as beneath contempt for their view on the article is a bit over the top.
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Reply #42 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:01pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
... wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:47pm:
Youd be getting the same prison term if you sent that article to a 12 year old as you would to a 13 year old. 

The fact you thought the distinction was worthy of making shows just how much of a sick nice person you are.


The fact that you knowingly lied shows just how much of a worthless troll you are.

Nobody is targeting preteens with articles about anal sex.

You knew that, I knew that, and everyone else knew that, but you chose to lie anyway.

You are beneath contempt.

Lift your game, boy.


Get off it Greg, 1 year difference? I know you are a pedant but to turn that into an attack and call someone sick is a bit rich and you probably shouldn't be calling others out on being a fibber.

Personally, I think it's up to the parents to vet what their kids read or not, it's not my place to tell them what to do. Hell, some even get them to read the Koran and the Bible at much younger ages.



Try to focus.

Honky said they were targeting preteens.

Just because someone reads an article, it doesn't mean that the article in question was targeted to them.

Surely you can understand that.

Please tell me you're not as thick as Honky.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
The fact is girls younger than 13 read it.




Honky said that they were targeting preteens.

Honky told a deliberate lie, in order to push his agenda.

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Setanta, read:

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Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes
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Reply #46 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.
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Reply #47 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?

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Reply #48 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.

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Reply #49 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



Indeed.

And still, Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens.

If you believe otherwise, show us the proof.

I asked Honky to do the same, however, he chickened out like the coward he is.

Can you help him?
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Reply #50 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



Indeed.

And still, Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens.

If you believe otherwise, show us the proof.

I asked Honky to do the same, however, he chickened out like the coward he is.


Can you help him?


I don't even think I can help you Greg! Grin
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Reply #51 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:42pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



Indeed.

And still, Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens.

If you believe otherwise, show us the proof.

I asked Honky to do the same, however, he chickened out like the coward he is.


Can you help him?


I don't even think I can help you Greg! Grin


Well, now we can all get some sleep.

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Reply #52 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



In a past life I could have got hold of the material the ad sales people use which shows audience reach and demographics. They know the age range of readers and they'd know inappropriately young readers would see that article but simply not care.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



In a past life I could have got hold of the material the ad sales people use which shows audience reach and demographics. They know the age range of readers and they'd know inappropriately young readers would see that article but simply not care.



Shh... Wink
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Reply #54 - Jul 26th, 2017 at 11:14am
 
Do you people honestly think 12 year olds are not talking about this stuff in the schoolyard?

And learning wrong?

My 11 year old son recently collapsed into paroxysms of giggles because the clock said 6.09. I asked him why ... he said "69, geddit?".

I asked him where he had heard that and if he knew what it meant, really. He told me his best friend told him ... and he did know.

I'm not in the least bit concerned about young kids reading about sex. We used to read the Dolly Doctor when we were young and fall about laughing reading it.

Let's call a spade a spade. This isn't about sex per se; it's about anal sex. Some of you just think it's icky.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:09pm:
Setanta, read:

Quote:
Re: No, the internet is not stealing kids’ innocence
Reply #5 - Today at 3:40pm Quote
Lack of education is one thing, conditioning masquerading as education is another.

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

Thoughts on targetting pre/teens with articles about anal?


Indeed.

Honky tells a lie, to push his twisted agenda.

I prove him wrong, and make him look unbelievably foolish.

Then, he calls me a paedophile.

I then get accused of calling him 'sick' (which never happened).

Jesus   Roll Eyes


See Aussie's highlight Greg, it says pre/teens which means preteens and teens.


Exactly.

Teen Vogue doesn't target preteens - agreed?

Honky is a lying POS - agreed?



I would say it doesn't not target them either, but doesn't say so because of the ramifications. Like I said, what a difference a day makes, there's only a day between 12 and 13. Only a pedant would make the distinction.



In a past life I could have got hold of the material the ad sales people use which shows audience reach and demographics. They know the age range of readers and they'd know inappropriately young readers would see that article but simply not care.



Not the same as targeting them.

Honky lied, in order to push his twisted agenda.

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Reply #56 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 2:53am
 
I remember at 18 years of age being completely mesmerised by the new experience of the internet. I think my personality changed considerably within 2 months. My first few months were of looking up anything and everything that could be considered rebellious or illegal. Pornography. White Nationalism. Black Nationalism. Violent images. I was amazed at how grim the world could be. It was both refreshing to see how uncensored things could be. Someone could anonymously post what they thought about someone or something, and their honesty could inflict nightmares.

Of course, over the years, I learned to deal with the content of the internet. And we had filters put in place to shield us from disturbing content. But it is concerning to think how this might affect our teens and pre-teens who are tech savvy about accessing the internet. Before 1997, I would have to say I must have forgotten how naive and innocent I would have been. Not knowing how corrupt and violent the world could be. The changes of psyche I had in adulthood. How would a child or teen be able to cope with the content on the internet today? How would their perspectives change?
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