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When Is Fed Lab. Recognising Palestine?
Jul 24th, 2017 at 6:11pm
 
Will it be this weekend?

How will the Jewish far right lobby react?


Or will Shorten's mob sit on the fence about this Israeli apartheid another year ?


ALP on a ‘dangerous path’

https://www.jewishnews.net.au/alp-dangerous-path/66534




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Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:10pm
 
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When Is Fed Lab. Recognising Palestine?


.....right after they have a surplus budget
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
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When Is Fed Lab. Recognising Palestine?


.....right after they have a surplus budget



High bar considering how fast and hard the current Liberal Mob is spending.
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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 1:54am
 
Why?  There is no State of Palestine - there is only an Arab minority who call themselves Palestinians....  Every state in which those people currently reside are already recognised.

Their own 'fellow' Arabs do not recognise them as anything but vermin.... a continuation of the ages-old Arab inability to see another Arab of a different tribe as a human being worthy of life.

... greedy, barbarous, and cruel.....

What you are discussing is a secession..... from Syria and Lebanon.. do you you imagine those Lebs and Syrs will accept that?  They're already killing each other and have done for decades... why would they stop at killing Palestinians, as they have done in the past?   Lips Sealed
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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 6:47am
 
anyone who vibes with the palestinian issue also vibes with

mediocrity
whining and complaining
attention seeking
being butthurt all the time
having no direction in life except to "cope"
living with a scarce mindset
loving your pain
playing the victim
being a loser
being a punk ass little bitch who lacks courage and drive and passion and just wants to dwell on "me,me,me and ny rough little story.

its a good way to screen people actually.

raise palestine.
if they are pro palestinian, draw a boundary and remove them and their toxic negative ideology from your personal ecosystem
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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 6:52am
 
TMI about yourself aquascoot.
Tying to deflect on to others doesn't work.
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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:11am
 
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TMI about yourself aquascoot.
Tying to deflect on to others doesn't work.



nope,

you will BECOME the sum of the 5 people you spend the most time with and the 5  media outlets you spend the most time listening too.

if you vibe with 5 hand wringing lefties who like to feel all upset about palestine (and a host of other issues they use to trigger their personal pain) and if you go to media outlets like the ABC or SBS and let journos feed you more of this narrative, then YOU go down.

you want to identify with palestinians despite living in the most prosperous society to have ever existed....you are the very definition of someone who is scared to succeed. you are scared of it because it will require great courage effort and passion to pursue it, and its just easier to be fearful and mediocre and do nothing. You are a living self fulfilling prophesy of failure.

my vietnamese neighbour who works his ass off and came here with nothing and now is a multi millionaire....i'll bet he wouldnt even know there WAS a place called palestine. not even on his radar...he's too busy being an awesome smiling positive hard working winner  Wink
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Reply #7 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:43am
 
Again.
You are deflecting your character flaws as a beta human onto others, so to not comment on the topic of the thread.

Other posters stronger in character than you are not the target. Labor recognising Palestine, so undermining Israel's Apartheid System is the topic.

If you keep on deflecting, then perhaps beta is too high a rating for you ... or is it you are just lonely and want the attention. If so, get yourself a kitten from the pound.

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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:53am
 
___ wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 6:11pm:
Will it be this weekend?

How will the Jewish far right lobby react?


Or will Shorten's mob sit on the fence about this Israeli apartheid another year ?


ALP on a ‘dangerous path’

https://www.jewishnews.net.au/alp-dangerous-path/66534








The more salient question would be, why would anyone care?


Even the socialist agree we should have nothing to do with the ME, so a great place to start.
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Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 7:58am
 
Quoting ' an unnamed socialist' source so to back up one's opinion.
See the big guns are out.
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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:18am
 
shouldn't you worry about the greens collapsing instead of what labor is doing, greenslime?
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Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 8:41am
 
Palestine a sore point for the pro Israel mob inside of Labor?

Should we expect the Jewish Labor rabble to form their own kosher party?

Perhaps push for Israeli Apartheid here
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Reply #12 - Jul 25th, 2017 at 9:17am
 
It will depend on how the ISRAEL HATER Lee Rhiannon gets on in the current Greeny chaos.

It is the Greenies who want to recognize Palestine and hate Israel.

And Bull S. would have to form the worst "govt" in Australia's history with the Greenies and so Bull S. is the puppet of the evil Greenies just like the six sick years of Labor's Socialist waste and disgrace.

So Bull S. is caught in the vice grip of the CFMEU on one side and the vile Greenies on the other side.


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And Bull S. has to kow tow to the large ISLAMIC voters in his electorates who HATE Israel




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The Greenies support Palestine because they HATE Israel


Now stand by for the howls of protests from the armchair arm waving Lefties.
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Reply #13 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 
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Actually the factors that determine what policies the ALP adopt has very little to do with whatever. Fortunes or misfortunes may occur to any greens member of Parliament. The move to give the Palestinians full recognition began while Bob Carr was foreign Minister and has been pushed to some extent by the New South Wales Right, who can hardly be described as Israel haters.
The political Ideology behind Jewish Nationalism is called Zionism. It comes in many forms.  The most extreme form Kahanism, based on the views of Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defence League and the Kach party in Israel. It is considered so extreme that Israel banned Kach from running in recent elections.
Mainstream Zionism is represented by the likes of David Ben Gurion and is represent in current day Israel by the Israeli Labour Party. Revisionist Zionism the right wing competing opposition to Ben Gurion has its historic roots with People like Menachem Begin the leader of the Irgun and Yizhak Shamir who was leader of the Lehi or Stern Gang. Both individuals and organisations were proclaimed as terrorist. There Ideologies are represented in current day Israel by the Likud Party and Yisrael Beiteinu.
Albert  Einstein and other notable Jews had this to say about the Leaders of Revisionist Zionism in a letter to the New York times.
“TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:
New Palestine Party Visit of Menachem Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.  It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit.  It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Beginâs political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Beginâs behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Beginâs party are no guide whatever to its actual character.  Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state.  It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin.  This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base.  On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants÷240 men, women, and children÷and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem.  Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan.  But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority.  Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions.  In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community.  Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them.  By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine.  They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.
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Reply #14 - Jul 30th, 2017 at 1:35pm
 
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Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party.  This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Beginâs efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ, HANNAH ARENDT, ABRAHAM BRICK, RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO, ALBERT EINSTEIN, HERMAN EISEN, M.D., HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D., H.H. HARRIS, ZELIG S. HARRIS, SIDNEY HOOK, FRED KARUSH, BRURIA KAUFMAN, IRMA L. LINDHEIM, NACHMAN MAISEL, SEYMOUR MELMAN, MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY, SAMUEL PITLICK, FRITZ ROHRLICH, LOUIS P. ROCKER, RUTH SAGIS, ITZHAK SANKOWSKY, I.J. SHOENBERG, SAMUEL SHUMAN, M. SINGER, IRMA WOLFE, STEFAN WOLFE.
New York, Dec. 2, 1948

Avery important point to be made here is that not all Zionist are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. Take for example Dr Alfred Lilienthal an American Jew who was a consultant to the U.S. Delegation on conference in 1945 setting up the United Nations. He also wrote “Israel’s flag is not mine.”
Now mainstream Zionist, those that follow the Ideology of David Ben Gurion are willing and support coming to an accommodation with the Palestinians. They are not Israel haters. They are just not fascists. In fact Labor has a number of Jewish Members who one could describe as mainstream Zionist. The most prominent being Michael Danby someone who you could not describe as an Israel hater.
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