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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #165 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm Honestly remarkable.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #166 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm: http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg Did you like this bit? SW: Quote: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim". Do you remember saying that?
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Reply #167 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg

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SW: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "[i]those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".
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Do you remember saying that?

Nope. Funnily enough. You'd have to be pretty thick to interpret what i said in that way.

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Reply #168 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:48pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg

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SW: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "[i]those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".
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Do you remember saying that?

Nope. Funnily enough. You'd have to be pretty thick to interpret what i said in that way.

It's not an interpretation, though.

He put it in quotation marks.

He's claiming that you actually said these words: "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

Did he not think he'd be picked up on such a blatant lie?

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Reply #169 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Oh I get it, it is unfortunate for you that I am only addressing what you said, and unfortunately for you, and for us, those things are done by Muslims.

Nobody has denied that.

And, additionally, "those things are done by people who aren't Muslim", just as mothra said.

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

The reason. Islam is associated with terrorism is because of Islamic terrorists.

The reason non-Muslims are associated with terrorism is because of non-Muslim terrorists.

Mothra was wrong. Those things are done by people who are Muslims.

I get what you and Mothra are trying to do, but no where have I claimed that it is only Muslims that are terrorists, nor have I said, what you tried earlier, that all Muslims are terrorists, but it is undeniable, contrary to Mothras contention that "these things are done by people who aren't Muslim" that these things are done by muslims.

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Reply #170 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg

Did you like this bit?

SW: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "[i]those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".
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Do you remember saying that?

Nope. Funnily enough. You'd have to be pretty thick to interpret what i said in that way.

It's not an interpretation, though.

He put it in quotation marks.

He's claiming that you actually said these words: "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

Did he not think he'd be picked up on such a blatant lie?

An excellent point ... yet i think you are crediting him with more intelligence than he actually has.

He's just not clever enough to wilfully misrepresent.

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Reply #171 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:53pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Oh I get it, it is unfortunate for you that I am only addressing what you said, and unfortunately for you, and for us, those things are done by Muslims.

Nobody has denied that.

And, additionally, "those things are done by people who aren't Muslim", just as mothra said.

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

The reason. Islam is associated with terrorism is because of Islamic terrorists.

The reason non-Muslims are associated with terrorism is because of non-Muslim terrorists.

Mothra was wrong.

Nope.

She was 100% correct.

" ... most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim."

You, however, were very wrong for quoting her as saying "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

She never said that (quite the contrary), and neither has anyone else.

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Reply #172 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg

Did you like this bit?

SW: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "[i]those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".
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Do you remember saying that?

Nope. Funnily enough. You'd have to be pretty thick to interpret what i said in that way.

It's not an interpretation, though.

He put it in quotation marks.

He's claiming that you actually said these words: "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

Did he not think he'd be picked up on such a blatant lie?

I'll cop that, transposed an are and aren't in the middle of tag team attacks.

I am an honest man Gregg. Puts me light years ahead of you.

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Reply #173 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:42pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Oh I get it, it is unfortunate for you that I am only addressing what you said, and unfortunately for you, and for us, those things are done by Muslims.

Nobody has denied that.

And, additionally, "those things are done by people who aren't Muslim", just as mothra said.

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

The reason. Islam is associated with terrorism is because of Islamic terrorists.

The reason non-Muslims are associated with terrorism is because of non-Muslim terrorists.

Mothra was wrong.

Nope.

She was 100% correct.

" ... most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim."

You, however, were very wrong for quoting her as saying "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

She never said that (quite the contrary), and neither has anyone else.

Unlike your effort previous, all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslim.

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Reply #174 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:57pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:48pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

http://i.imgur.com/fVB2Ak4.jpg

Did you like this bit?

SW: If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "[i]those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".
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Do you remember saying that?

Nope. Funnily enough. You'd have to be pretty thick to interpret what i said in that way.

It's not an interpretation, though.

He put it in quotation marks.

He's claiming that you actually said these words: "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim".

Did he not think he'd be picked up on such a blatant lie?

I'll cop that, transposed an are and aren't in the middle of tag team attacks.

I am an honest man Gregg. Puts me light years ahead of you.

See? Not wilful misrepresentation. Just incredible stupidity.

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Reply #175 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

So are we agreed then, the reason why Muslims are associated with terrorism is because Muslims are holding up signs that say "behead those who insult the prophet", are driving into crowds of people and blowing people up?

Cos I don't mind repeating it. Cool

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Reply #176 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:08pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

So are we agreed then, the reason why Muslims are associated with terrorism is because Muslims are holding up signs that say "behead those who insult the prophet", are driving into crowds of people and blowing people up?

Cos I don't mind repeating it. Cool

Not to a reasonable, rational person. They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim.

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Reply #177 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:13pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

So are we agreed then, the reason why Muslims are associated with terrorism is because Muslims are holding up signs that say "behead those who insult the prophet", are driving into crowds of people and blowing people up?

Cos I don't mind repeating it. Cool

Not to a reasonable, rational person. They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim.

Check, and mate!

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Reply #178 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:14pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:08pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

So are we agreed then, the reason why Muslims are associated with terrorism is because Muslims are holding up signs that say "behead those who insult the prophet", are driving into crowds of people and blowing people up?

Cos I don't mind repeating it. Cool

Not to a reasonable, rational person. They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim.

No, reasonable and rational people would understand that the reason why Islam is associated with terrorism is because of acts of terrorism by Islamic terrorists.

Your attempt at diversion has been noted.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #179 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 6:16pm This is seriously just astonishing.
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