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Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:27pm
 
This is what you will be faced with if you want to drive in Sydney and New South Wales:

IT now costs up to $40 a day in tolls to travel to and from the north shore to the eastern suburbs of Sydney.
Drivers can expect to pay more as new roads like NorthConnex and Westconnex are built with money from extending, increasing and reintroducing tolls.
To help fund the Westconnex motorway tolls are returning to the M4 and M5.
To help pay for Northconnex tolls on the M7 will rise for trucks plus the M2 and Lane Cove Tunnel tolls may be extended.
NRMA local director Tim Trumper said if you need to drive across Sydney the only feasible choice is a motorway, run as a monopoly or by the NSW Government.
Motorways should refund tolls when there are avoidable delays for example for poor maintenance and late running road works, Mr Trumper said.
“It’s time motorists got what they paid for,” he said.
All other transport services are subject to independent price and performance oversight and toll prices should be no different, he said.
“Our preference is for the M7 model, the tolls on which are CPI-linked.”
A spokeswoman for Minister for Roads Duncan Gay said Northconnex will slash travel times and the entire Sydney Orbital network has largely been delivered through partnerships with private companies.
“If people find good value in good infrastructure, they will likely use it and motorists will always have a free alternative route,” the spokeswoman said.
When Transurban upgraded the M2 in 2013, at a cost of $550 million, the NSW Government contributed to the cost with a four-year extension of the tolls on the M2.
Transurban which, operates and co-owns many of Sydney’s toll roads including the M2, the M7, the Eastern Distributor, the Lane Cove and Cross City tunnels, has said it supports a user-pays system for roads.

*A huge new rollout of increased Tolls are expected by Premier Berejiklian is staying close mouthed about anticipated huge rises for motorists in tolls

This bitch just can't stop milking the golden cow
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Reply #1 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:29pm
 

"tolls"   Grin

You eastern states guys are silly.

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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:36pm
 
Yes Gregg there seems to be a mind set around that if you want good roads then you have to pay a toll here. What a load of crap. I recall that part of every petrol dollar purchased is supposed to go to road construction

Where are all those hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars going?

It is just a total ripoff and another way for the Government to screw the taxpayer
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Reply #3 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:29pm:
"tolls"   Grin

You eastern states guys are beholden to corporate overlords and are no longer governed with your interests at the forefront.



fixed that one for you.
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Reply #4 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:52pm
 
See what I mean?


Drivers taxed almost 40 cents on a litre of fuel will get less than nine cents back in the form of spending on roads next financial year, according to calculations by the national motorists' umbrella group.

The rest of the tax revenue - worth close to $10 billion - will go towards helping the Government reach the $1.5 billion surplus it has promised for 2012-13.

The Australian Automobile Association has told the Government it is concerned that funding for road building and improvements will be cut by 38 per cent, or more than $2.6 billion in the coming Budget year.

This was based on calculations using the Government's own forward spending projections.

"Over a four-year period it is projected that there will be a $36 billion shortfall between the amount of fuel tax paid by motorists and investment in land transport infrastructure," the AAA said in its Budget submission to Treasurer Wayne Swan.

The AAA calculates the Government will get $57 billion in fuel excise from motorists over the next four years and invest just $21 billion in land transport.

The revenue comes from the 38.1 cents-per-litre (cpl) fuel excise which has been frozen since 2001.

In 2011-12 the excise will provide 15.9 cpl for road funding, the AAA has calculated. But in 2012-13 that will fall to 8.4 cpl for roads, and will rise by only two cents over the next three years.

"The Federal Government continues to direct surplus revenue from motorists to consolidated revenue even though transport expenditure is falling," said the AAA Budget submission.

"The AAA is concerned that the share of fuel excise being directed to road funding is projected to fall from 15.9 cpl in 2011-12 to an average of just 10.9 cpl over the Budget forward estimates."

The Government is not obliged to allocate a set slice from its 38.1 cpl fuel excise to road and rail projects, but motoring groups have consistently demanded a significant amount be returned to road users.

However, the heavy reliance by this and past governments on the excise to bulk up the general spending pool has meant that most of the revenue is used elsewhere, and drivers paying $1.50 a litre cannot expect a tax cut.

And much of the road funding in the coming financial year will go towards repairing flood damage, which the NSW Government has estimated will cost $500 million in its state alone.

The AAA said more money should go to reducing road accidents it says cost the national economy $27 billion a year.

It called on the Government to spend more on fixing "black spot" road stretches with a bad record for accidents.

The national road toll is close to 1400 deaths a year with more than 30,000 people seriously injured.

Originally published as Revealed: Where your fuel taxes are really going

***  This Tax when is was first formulated was supposed to be spent in its entirety on building and maintain roads

You can see that ONLY 9 CENTS OF EVERY 40 CENTS COLLECTED GOES THERE RIP OFF CENTRAL
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Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:56pm
 
That's correct Baron - the Govt. steals the petrol tax &
spends it on fat cat public servants etc.
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Reply #6 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 10:28pm
 
....the user should pay....Gladys for PM
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Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 10:37pm
 
Get the train, Red. You won't look back.
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Reply #8 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 10:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:56pm:
That's correct Baron - the Govt. steals the petrol tax &
spends it on fat cat public servants etc.


And we use the train, dear.
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Reply #9 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:43am
 
Karnal luckily for me I live in the Blue Mountains and have escaped the tyranny of the tolls that drivers going to work in Sydney face every day

Poor buggers working stiffs get reamed royally by Big Beak Berejiklian
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Reply #10 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:53am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 10:28pm:
....the user should pay....Gladys for PM



user does pay

every time they pay rego
every time they fill up with gas


the user doesn't stop paying.
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Reply #11 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:54am
 
Didn't toll roads or private roads disappear in England in the 19th century? We had to wait for late 20th century Australia for them to be reinvented.

I don't go near metropolitan areas fortunately.
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Reply #12 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:55am
 
They should increase fuel taxes instead of using tolls. This is what you get for whinging constantly about the price of fuel, like it is a harbinger of doom just because the prices are plastered in big letters on the side of the road. The government is not game to touch it. So instead you get freeways that are designed to be difficult to get on and off easily, so you can't evade the tolls. And you have to sign up for electronic monitors just so you can drive to work. And you get poor people taking the longer route through the suburbs to save money. Tolls are used in cities where the cost of roads on a per user basis are the lowest. In rural areas where the relative cost is higher, they wouldn't put up with it.
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Reply #13 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 4:29pm:
"tolls"   Grin

You eastern states guys are silly.



Oh, yes.

Just imagine if any State government here in WA tried to introduce toll roads seeing as we already seem to be the most expensive State when it comes to keeping a car on the road.

I can't think of a quicker form of political suicide.
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Reply #14 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 8:59am
 
But in rural areas there usually isn't more than one feasible route from A to B, so there isn't scope for a free alternative.
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